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Post by fbdoc on May 3, 2007 10:38:37 GMT -6
My returning QB - started every game as a sophomore, broke all of our school passing records - came in today and told me he's not coming back next year. He had mentioned the possibility a few weeks ago saying he felt he needed some D-I exposure (we're a small Christian school and he says he going to one of the local "Big" public schools).
When he came in a few weeks ago I covered all of the pros and cons of the move and thought he was on board. Went over the fact that he knew our stuff, was going to have the Full Spotlight of playing for us, and that all it would take was a phone call to get a D-I coach to come and watch him play. All to no avail.
The sad thing is that although he was very good for us, he's defintitely NOT D-I at 5' 11 & 185 pounds. He's a decent runner and a pretty good passer but the school he's planning on attending already had 2 studs at QB. I really don't think theres anything underhanded (recruiting) going on. I just feel bad - for us and for him! This was going to be his first day at spring football (baseball player) and today we're doing offense!
Not crying about it but obviously this will put a bit of a damper on my high spirits about Spring Football. Time to rally the troops. The "new" starter is a very good passer, but his speed is best described as glacial. So much for my plans to use sprint out this year!
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Post by ocinaz on May 3, 2007 10:40:49 GMT -6
That flat out sucks....
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Post by coachmathis on May 3, 2007 10:47:51 GMT -6
Fbdoc, I feel for you. I know all about the world of small christian school athletics and the kids who feel like they are d-1 caliber. Run the wing-t, u dont need a great QB for that. LOL. Best of luck
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Post by kloranc on May 3, 2007 10:51:23 GMT -6
You might try contacting the coach at the big school. It sounds like your kid might be riding the bench there. The other coach may be willing to help you talk sense into your kid!
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Post by coachd5085 on May 3, 2007 11:07:38 GMT -6
YOu could always mention that both Petyon and Eli were at small class schools (300ish enrollment).
The big problem here is that the kid thinks HE is a D1 athlete. Based on this, I can completely understand his move. If you are small..but produce at the bigger schools, you might get a sniff. Small at a small school...no chance.
I do like what was suggested above. If the HC at the big school is a good guy..he might be of some help if the kid can't play for them.
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Post by spartancoach on May 3, 2007 11:14:13 GMT -6
IMO, forget him. You did what you could to help the kid to no avail. Coach up your new #1 QB and tweak your system to his (and the team's) strengths.
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Post by bulldogoption on May 3, 2007 11:21:29 GMT -6
Bummer coach......
Isn't it fun working with 17 year olds, I just love it....
I have a kid who is going to be senior also. Solid player, not great, but good. He is having a pretty good baseball season. His ultimate goal is to play college baseball. He is also injury prone and has some recurring shoulder issues. The "talk" amongst the kids is that he will sit out football and basketball, we are a small school, to get surgery and avoid injury heading into his senior baseball season. If I had a dollar for every success story like that I've heard, I'd be broke. I am not going to say anything now, I'll let him enjoy his baseball season, and he should. But when the season is over I'm going to try and explain all of the kids that have tried this and that it seldom works to their advantage......
Just keep telling yourself that everyone's replaceable.......That or "Serenity Now"
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Post by fbdoc on May 3, 2007 11:42:15 GMT -6
Serenity now, Insanity later! In my 6 years at this school we have sent 2 kids on to D-I and both of them were Studs! We've also sent at least one kid every year to a D-II, NAIA, or D-III school. My speech to the parents and the kids is always along the lines of "If your wants to play college ball, we will find him a school" and we have! I know we all have to deal with this at some time or another but the timing of this is the big headache. Spartancoach already called it - today is our first day of offense so we'll have a chance to see what the backup (he's going to be a junior) can do. Great kid, great heart, and as I said - he's a better passer. Bring it on!
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Post by flexspread on May 3, 2007 12:16:33 GMT -6
I'm sorry to hear that coach. As you said, your new QB is a better passer so at least you are looking on the bright side of things. I don't know how to get kids to realize that if you are "that" good, schools will find you.
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Post by bulldogoption on May 3, 2007 13:22:11 GMT -6
A few years ago, at a different school, we had a junior finish 1st team all conference and player of the year in the conference as a quarterback. Senior year he didn't play because he wanted to get some surgery, something with the foot, done and rehabbed for baseball because he thought he was going to be a college baseball player. Well, baseball didn't pan out in college. He lost his senior year, and the DE we converted to quarterback got 2nd team all conference honors, led the league in passing. Everyone's replaceable......
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Post by coachsky on May 3, 2007 13:39:31 GMT -6
Bummer coach...... I have a kid who is going to be senior also. Solid player, not great, but good. He is having a pretty good baseball season. His ultimate goal is to play college baseball. He is also injury prone and has some recurring shoulder issues. The "talk" among the kids is that he will sit out football and basketball, we are a small school, to get surgery and avoid injury heading into his senior baseball season. If I had a dollar for every success story like that I've heard, I'd be broke. I am not going to say anything now, I'll let him enjoy his baseball season, and he should. But when the season is over I'm going to try and explain all of the kids that have tried this and that it seldom works to their advantage...... ; Bulldog, We had a kid last year who sat out FB to stay healthy for baseball. He was a two starter FB & LBer who could have played D1 FB. He was the lead blocker who helped our TB come one yard from the state single season rushing record. He was injured in football at his Jr. Spring Camp and didn't want to risk his shot at Pro Baseball. In this case it was the right choice! Kid won the State 4A Baseball championship, undefeated baseball season, ranked #2 nationally . Kid got drafted in 1st Round. Got some 'lifetime" up front money. Ended up being Minor League player of the year for the Blue Jays. Life is good. www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/262060.htmlWe also lost another baseball kid for the majority of last season because of a stress fracture in his lower back. Another stud with a baseball scholarship to Texas. Could have played D1 FB as a receiver or Safety. I still agree with you. Most kid's can be too careful and too specialized. The two guys I mentioned are certainly \ exceptions to the rule. Just happened to be the same year. |
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Post by fbdoc on May 3, 2007 17:13:57 GMT -6
OK... first offensive practice of the Spring with our "new" QB and it went pretty darn good. I addressed it briefly at the start - mostly to make sure everyone had a chance to deal with it and move on. We jumped right into individual skill and went from there. Run and Pass installation went well - Pistol was pretty quick! Kids were positive and it's now a non issue. I'm sure there will be MORE unexpected bumps in the road but for now, things are going well. Thanks for the encouragement guys - like bulldogoption said, "That's what happens when you put your life in the hands of 17 year olds."
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Post by bulldogoption on May 3, 2007 18:37:48 GMT -6
Bummer coach...... I have a kid who is going to be senior also. Solid player, not great, but good. He is having a pretty good baseball season. His ultimate goal is to play college baseball. He is also injury prone and has some recurring shoulder issues. The "talk" among the kids is that he will sit out football and basketball, we are a small school, to get surgery and avoid injury heading into his senior baseball season. If I had a dollar for every success story like that I've heard, I'd be broke. I am not going to say anything now, I'll let him enjoy his baseball season, and he should. But when the season is over I'm going to try and explain all of the kids that have tried this and that it seldom works to their advantage...... ; Bulldog, We had a kid last year who sat out FB to stay healthy for baseball. He was a two starter FB & LBer who could have played D1 FB. He was the lead blocker who helped our TB come one yard from the state single season rushing record. He was injured in football at his Jr. Spring Camp and didn't want to risk his shot at Pro Baseball. In this case it was the right choice! Kid won the State 4A Baseball championship, undefeated baseball season, ranked #2 nationally . Kid got drafted in 1st Round. Got some 'lifetime" up front money. Ended up being Minor League player of the year for the Blue Jays. Life is good. www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/262060.htmlWe also lost another baseball kid for the majority of last season because of a stress fracture in his lower back. Another stud with a baseball scholarship to Texas. Could have played D1 FB as a receiver or Safety. I still agree with you. Most kid's can be too careful and too specialized. The two guys I mentioned are certainly \ exceptions to the rule. Just happened to be the same year. Roger that coachsky, it sounds like you deal with much better athletes than I do. We are a small rural school. If a D1 kid comes thru our conference every 5 years we get excited.....The kids I'm talking about are big fish in little ponds......and in my opinion wasting their time sitting out sports to prepare for another one. point well taken |
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Post by superpower on May 3, 2007 19:13:45 GMT -6
OK... first offensive practice of the Spring with our "new" QB and it went pretty darn good. I addressed it briefly at the start - mostly to make sure everyone had a chance to deal with it and move on. We jumped right into individual skill and went from there. Run and Pass installation went well - Pistol was pretty quick! Kids were positive and it's now a non issue. I'm sure there will be MORE unexpected bumps in the road but for now, things are going well. Thanks for the encouragement guys - like bulldogoption said, "That's what happens when you put your life in the hands of 17 year olds." Jeremiah 29:11 - "I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you." Isn't it amazing how things work themselves out? I have a feeling your new QB is going to have a great season. |
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Post by ajreaper on May 3, 2007 21:18:52 GMT -6
What will you do when he comes back? Because he will. He'll go to the bigger school realize he'll not be the man and he'll want back- I'd tell him sorry but you've lost our trust and displayed a lack of loyalty to the program.
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Post by superpower on May 4, 2007 6:50:40 GMT -6
I'd tell him that he is welcome to compete for the starting job...at either nose guard or offensive tackle!
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Post by mib36 on May 4, 2007 7:08:23 GMT -6
Hey Coach, does this tie in to what I asked you yesterday? Seems odd that all these QB's in CS are moving around. I agree with coachd and kloranc..if the guy at CSH is a good guy, maybe he can help the kid with his options. It is all about doing what's best for the kids remember. Go ahead and plan for your offense to revolve around the better passer. I hope everything works out for your team and the kid. Maybe you'll have him back, maybe you won't- but you're going to win no matter what as long as you stick to what you do. Best of luck this spring!
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Post by fbdoc on May 4, 2007 8:33:25 GMT -6
My kid is going to CGHS which is probably going to be tougher than CSHS. Coming back will be tough - State rules say that once he practices with the other team then he's ineligible to play for another team that year. I hear what you're saying about talking to the other coach but I'm not going there right now - I really don't beleive that he was recruited, I just think he's got stars in his eyes. I really hope he does well.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 4, 2007 10:02:17 GMT -6
fbdoc--just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting that you contact the coach because of recruitment issues, I was saying that if you don't think the kid can compete at that school, it might be in the kids best interest to have the OTHER teams coach try and clear up some of those stars in his eyes.
Although, to play devils advocate, it might benefit the kid greatly to be "forced" to compete. Sounds like he doesn't have too much of that right now (school record holder as a sophmore) and the push he gets at the bigger school might pan out for him
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