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Post by irishdog on Aug 22, 2024 9:45:40 GMT -6
I was a HC in five different states. In one state we could only hold one "intra-squad' scrimmage and one "game" scrimmage before our first game. In the other states it was two "game scrimmages." In two different states we were involved in scrimmages AND a "jamboree." I found the "game" scrimmages to be the most productive for my teams. The jamborees were great for actual game type situations, but didn't give us the necessary "teaching" opportunities a scrimmage provided. What you say? How is it in your state?
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Post by MICoach on Aug 22, 2024 9:53:22 GMT -6
In Michigan it's kind of the wild west these days...
Most teams in my area will compete in one 4+ team "jamboree" type deal, but many will combine their allotted "Team Camp" days to hold like a joint practice, which is questionable with regards to the rules.
I believe there are a certain amount of days of padded practice necessary before you're allowed to scrimmage with another school and I think the rule on how many scrimmages you can hold is vague enough that most schools take advantage of a "joint practice" in some form or fashion.
Generally teams will go live-ish with a school in another division and run their best stuff, then just run very base stuff in their 4-way and trade that film for week 1.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Aug 22, 2024 10:03:43 GMT -6
Coached in Tennessee & Alabama. While Alabama is ahead of Tennessee in most cases involving high school football, involving the scrimmage rules, the are way behind. Tennessee allows 4 total dates with other teams including a Jamboree. Alabama only allows 1 "game" scrimmage. To me athletes need game situations to prepare for the season. 1 "practice game" isn't enough IMHO.
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Post by fantom on Aug 22, 2024 11:42:21 GMT -6
I coached in Virginia. Although I retired five years ago I believe that this is still the case:
We were allowed two scrimmages. A jamboree counted as one scrimmage. Of the two scrimmages one is allowed to be a "benefit game". That's played with game conditions (Which the teams can agree to modify- limited kicking game, for example), they can advertise, and charge admission. I think the VHSL is supposed to get some of that money but since I wasn't the AD I don't know or care.
I didn't love jamborees. It was fun playing different teams but they were so short that there was no time for teaching and they tended to get so competitive that it was easy to forget to get a look at the fringe players who you wanted to evaluate. The benefits also got competitive but that was usually the second scrimmage and by then you mostly had your lineup set.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Aug 22, 2024 12:13:46 GMT -6
I coached in Virginia. Although I retired five years ago I believe that this is still the case: We were allowed two scrimmages. A jamboree counted as one scrimmage. Of the two scrimmages one is allowed to be a "benefit game". That's played with game conditions (Which the teams can agree to modify- limited kicking game, for example), they can advertise, and charge admission. I think the VHSL is supposed to get some of that money but since I wasn't the AD I don't know or care. I didn't love jamborees. It was fun playing different teams but they were so short that there was no time for teaching and they tended to get so competitive that it was easy to forget to get a look at the fringe players who you wanted to evaluate. The benefits also got competitive but that was usually the second scrimmage and by then you mostly had your lineup set. Yes. In Va in week -1 you get a scrimmage. We had a 3 way with 2 other schools. 10 O and D vs both and a running quarter vs both. This week (Week 0) we play a Benefit Game. The Benefit of the gate gets split between the 2 schools and the state association (VHSL) We will have live PAT/FG and the rest of the kicking is dead. The rest of the game is real game rules. The JV will get 30 O 30 D before. The unspoken or under said thing about these scrimmages and kick off Classics is getting the Refs get a warm up and remind us dumb coaches who is in charge! |
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Post by cwaltsmith on Aug 23, 2024 9:25:57 GMT -6
I coached in Virginia. Although I retired five years ago I believe that this is still the case: We were allowed two scrimmages. A jamboree counted as one scrimmage. Of the two scrimmages one is allowed to be a "benefit game". That's played with game conditions (Which the teams can agree to modify- limited kicking game, for example), they can advertise, and charge admission. I think the VHSL is supposed to get some of that money but since I wasn't the AD I don't know or care. I didn't love jamborees. It was fun playing different teams but they were so short that there was no time for teaching and they tended to get so competitive that it was easy to forget to get a look at the fringe players who you wanted to evaluate. The benefits also got competitive but that was usually the second scrimmage and by then you mostly had your lineup set. Yes jamborees were more for a logistics check... sideline procedures, headsets, film & hudl practice in game... not much for x and o bc so short |
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Post by agap on Aug 23, 2024 17:22:52 GMT -6
Most teams have jamborees in Minnesota the week before the first game. Some teams will also scrimmage another team the last day of their summer camp. I always liked the scrimmage during summer camp because you could stop and teach your players more.
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