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Post by cfoott on Aug 18, 2024 17:04:04 GMT -6
Can a player progress through the phases without being in practice. If they progress through phase 1 on Friday, can they go through phases 2 & 3 over the weekend? Can’t find anything that explains that. Thanks in advance.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 18, 2024 19:52:13 GMT -6
Can a player progress through the phases without being in practice. If they progress through phase 1 on Friday, can they go through phases 2 & 3 over the weekend? Can’t find anything that explains that. Thanks in advance. We always did that. But the player HAD to meet with the trainer on those days for them to count. As long as you document, you should be fine. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Aug 19, 2024 8:35:20 GMT -6
You have to be symptom free before beginning the return to play protocol.
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Post by cfoott on Aug 19, 2024 15:28:10 GMT -6
Can a player progress through the phases without being in practice. If they progress through phase 1 on Friday, can they go through phases 2 & 3 over the weekend? Can’t find anything that explains that. Thanks in advance. We always did that. But the player HAD to meet with the trainer on those days for them to count. As long as you document, you should be fine. So your player would meet with the trainer on the weekend? |
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 19, 2024 17:27:19 GMT -6
For concussion, once you are symptom free you can begin the protocol. We have Saturday morning treatment and Sunday afternoon treatment.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 19, 2024 17:50:27 GMT -6
We always did that. But the player HAD to meet with the trainer on those days for them to count. As long as you document, you should be fine. So your player would meet with the trainer on the weekend? Yes. |
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Post by agap on Aug 20, 2024 19:15:10 GMT -6
I don’t know, I would leave that up to the trainer. I’m not deciding when a player is able to return to play.
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 20, 2024 21:07:37 GMT -6
I don’t know, I would leave that up to the trainer. I’m not deciding when a player is able to return to play. You are so right. I'm the 9th grade HC and I've told my kids time and time again: There are 2 people that will tell you if you can play or not; me and the trainers. If you are injured, the trainers decide. If you do stupid stuff, then I decide. This closely mirrors what the varsity HC says to the varsity squad. |
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Post by silkyice on Aug 20, 2024 21:19:57 GMT -6
I don’t know, I would leave that up to the trainer. I’m not deciding when a player is able to return to play. I don't think that is the question that is being asked. I think he is just asking if Saturday and Sunday can count as days. If the trainer meets with them on those days and follows proper protocol and documents it, then yes is the answer. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 20, 2024 21:37:02 GMT -6
I don’t know, I would leave that up to the trainer. I’m not deciding when a player is able to return to play. I don't think that is the question that is being asked. I think he is just asking if Saturday and Sunday can count as days. If the trainer meets with them on those days and follows proper protocol and documents it, then yes is the answer. Such is the dynamics of a message board..... Question posed. Answers made. Semi-related answer/question juxtaposed. Tangent created. Sorry if I screwed the pooch. |
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Post by agap on Aug 20, 2024 22:32:37 GMT -6
I don’t know, I would leave that up to the trainer. I’m not deciding when a player is able to return to play. I don't think that is the question that is being asked. I think he is just asking if Saturday and Sunday can count as days. If the trainer meets with them on those days and follows proper protocol and documents it, then yes is the answer. Whenever a player had a concussion when I was HC, I asked the trainer the soonest he could return. They gave me a day and that would only change if he continued having symptoms. My point is ask the trainer, not this message board. It’s probably different state to state and also school to school. If the weekend would count and I told the trainer, then I’m sure the trainer’s employer and administration would have to discuss additional pay for working weekends. |
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Post by cwaltsmith on Aug 21, 2024 8:14:06 GMT -6
I don't think that is the question that is being asked. I think he is just asking if Saturday and Sunday can count as days. If the trainer meets with them on those days and follows proper protocol and documents it, then yes is the answer. Whenever a player had a concussion when I was HC, I asked the trainer the soonest he could return. They gave me a day and that would only change if he continued having symptoms. My point is ask the trainer, not this message board. It’s probably different state to state and also school to school. If the weekend would count and I told the trainer, then I’m sure the trainer’s employer and administration would have to discuss additional pay for working weekends. Some of us don't have trainers |
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Post by cfoott on Aug 28, 2024 10:57:49 GMT -6
That's the boat I'm in. No trainer. At least during the week. We have one for games. She's a teacher on campus, but doesn't seem to be interested in the extracurricular B.S. M-Th. So I have to error on the side of caution. protocol has to be done at practice so I can monitor them.
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Post by blb on Aug 28, 2024 12:07:35 GMT -6
I would not take a HFC job that did not have an ATC.
I'm the Head COACH, my assistants are COACHES.
Not Sports Medicine Professionals.
Especially in this day and age.
If the school doesn't care enough about the athletes-program to have a trainer, they don't care period.
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