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Post by raider7342 on Sept 13, 2007 7:00:17 GMT -6
player (3rd best on team) misses 1 day practice (sick) and when comes back no contact for 2 more. when not put in his starting position during drill smarts off under his breath but loud enough to hear, "this is crazy" asst. coach hears.
not first incident with him.
bench him some or not?
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Post by coachmathis on Sept 13, 2007 7:23:10 GMT -6
I would say that it depends on the severity of the other events. I would maybe talk to him about why he wasn't in his normal starting spot if you haven't already because I know as an athlete I would wanna know why Im not in my normal position just because I missed a day of practice being sick.
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Post by groundchuck on Sept 13, 2007 7:39:50 GMT -6
If the other kid is out performing him then play him. But where I coach if you miss b/c you are sick you probably don't lose the starting spot you currently occupy. Assuming of course it is a short term illness. Now if you are out for a week (in your case 3 days basically) and the replacement is out performing him then yeah. But he did not lose his job because he was sick, he lost it b/c someone else the chance to show they are just as good.
Communication is key here. This week I moved a backup QB to TB, and I saw the rest of the TBs kind of looking around like "WTF?" So I called them all over and told them that none of them are producing the way they need to at TB. I told them I was lookign for someone or several guys to step up thier game. Guess what...a couple of the other kids stepped up.
Bench him? No, you might need him to win the game. If you are not happy with his attitude and you have communicted with him then don't start him.
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Post by gacoach on Sept 13, 2007 10:00:09 GMT -6
Was the no contact thing from a Dr. Doctor or a Dr. Mom? As stated, sick is not an excuse miss practice. We have a lot of that "just not feeling good, so I went home" in our lower levels but never with a varsity player. I did have a jr. OL tell some of the other OL that the reason he couldn't come to a 6AM practice is that he was "dehydrated".
If a player shares his opinion about a drill, he can run. Only the HC can kick him off the field.
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Post by ajreaper on Sept 13, 2007 22:50:10 GMT -6
LOL, how does a kid who's not practiced all week even dress for the game? And if his back up plays well he may not see the field? That's a heck of a tight ship your running there.
Our rule is if you are to dress on Friday you must be practicing by Wed.- does not matter what the deal was- hurt, sick, funeral whatever. If you aint able to go by Wed you don't dress period. How can a kid who's not practiced the game plan execute it on Friday?
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Post by midlineqb on Sept 13, 2007 23:23:25 GMT -6
ajreaper, I agree wholeheartedly with your comments and this is the way we've always handled playing time and absences.
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Post by coachcoyote on Sept 14, 2007 0:34:06 GMT -6
Why put the other kids at risk if someone hasn't practiced at their position and know their assignment? You can talk all day about what you should do, but if you can't back it up on the field, why should he play?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2007 5:54:01 GMT -6
Our position has always been "miss one practice--don't start, miss 2--don't play.
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 14, 2007 6:07:35 GMT -6
Our position has always been "miss one practice--don't start, miss 2--don't play. Yeah, I tried that once, and it was impossible to stick to my guns. I don't recommend this. I recommend playing him and dealing with the situation next week. Make him work harder for the time missed and the smart a$$ comment. |
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Post by singlewing14 on Sept 14, 2007 11:28:02 GMT -6
I have a simple rule:
We have 4 practices per week. Each practice equals 1 quarter. 1 practice missed, 1 quarter missed. 2 practices missed, two quarters missed. 3 practices missed, what's the point in dressing?
As the coach I get to choose which quarters they miss. (If the kid is integral to our success, he still may start but he will also sit a quarter, probably 3rd.)
It's easy to follow and seems to work well.
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Post by ajreaper on Sept 14, 2007 11:33:20 GMT -6
My experience has been if a kid can go he's out there by Wed.- if a kid wants to give it a go and is basically able our trainer will endorse it if not they don't dress Friday and they certainly do not play. Most of us here have played and been around the game for many years- if you cannot practice on Wed. you will not be ready to go by Fri.- just cold hard reality when it comes to injuries or illnesses.
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Post by juice10 on Sept 14, 2007 12:56:43 GMT -6
We are currently under something very similar to irish, don't dress don't start. My situation is probably a little different than most, trying to take a program that has struggled with wins, accountability, responsibility, etc.
When I first took over, many of our kids would skip school just to skip school and then expect to play on Friday nights. Put a kabosh to that quickly with the don't come don't start rule. And that has helped our attendance tremendously.
I think it just comes down to a personal decision. Does the punishment fit the crime and in our case no dress no start, 2 in a week no play.
Lastly, should it matter if it is the best player on your team or a freshman. Shouldn't we have the same expectations for everyone?
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Post by coachcoyote on Sept 15, 2007 22:16:38 GMT -6
We should, but too many guys treat the "stars" with a different standard. Even though the skill level of the back up is not near the starter, what kind of message is the back up getting. He knows his skill level isn't as high, but he also knows how hard he has worked and doesn't get a chance. Why should he put out the max effort if no reward is in sight?
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