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Post by airraider on Dec 14, 2007 22:08:40 GMT -6
Public service announcement.. we are all adults.. DONT DO SOMETHING STUPID like mess around with kids..
Just found out that a local basketball coach.. a guy that I actually took classes with in college was just arrested and had to forfeit his teaching certificate in Louisiana forever for inappropriate comments made to a female basketball player.. and he also exposed himself to her..
Another guy I had classes with in college was fired and is sitting jail tonight over an incident from last year where he was sending text messages to a girl which included lewd comments and photos..
2 other coaches where busted in our area last year for actually having sexual relationships with young girls.. one had been doing it over the span of the last 12 or so years to girls on his softball team..
Don't allow a moment of indiscretion mess up your life forever.. we are all creatures of temptation.. but please think about it!!
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 14, 2007 22:32:14 GMT -6
Thanks coach...but, geez, I couldn't see myself doing any of those things you mentioned. Those coach's have some serious issues.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 14, 2007 22:36:57 GMT -6
Well the way the young ladies look and present themselves, makes the temptation even worse, but you are correct, never let a moment of temptation ruin what you have worked so hard for!
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 14, 2007 23:13:18 GMT -6
Being younger and working in a highschool you have to have self-control and act appropriately and always watch out for yourself because even if a girl lies, and says you did something all because you gave her a bad grade you're the one that gets screwd and loses everything. Seen it happen here before. It's very tempting but you have to think before you act. That's why i never put myself in a positon where its my word against hers. Important tip if you're a teacher a a girls coach...never let yourself be alone in the gym, classroom, wherever, alone with a student or player because if they want to get you in trouble they can doit and make stuff up.
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Post by mike13 on Dec 15, 2007 0:17:39 GMT -6
Airraider you mentioned four males that were jailed or lost their license. In the area I live in we had three female teacher caught having relationships with male students. Two of which were middle school teachers and middle school boys. All three were jailed.
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Post by carson101 on Dec 15, 2007 0:52:06 GMT -6
It is sad that theses things happen and I agreee never be alone with a kid. The odds are your guilty even if you did nothing as society sees it. Comprimse (sp) is never an option when integrity is at risk.
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 15, 2007 7:10:53 GMT -6
dcohio -- that was the strangest post I've ever read.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 15, 2007 7:50:13 GMT -6
I will second that KC.........weird...
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Post by wildcat on Dec 15, 2007 8:40:21 GMT -6
Do we really need a thread that says "don't bang your students?"
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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2007 9:51:38 GMT -6
Do we really need a thread that says "don't bang your students?" I personally dont.. but maybe there is that one young coach out there who thinks there is no way he will ever get caught.. and this thread is here to tell him.. YES YOU WILL!!! |
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Post by jcarbon2 on Dec 15, 2007 9:58:13 GMT -6
The fact that he got caught?? LOL.
Same girls just don't cover much these days. I think the only girls that had mini-skirts in my day worked in a strip club or on the street.
I have two but I also have me a nice set of Golf Clubs, a 9mm, some pepper spray and this Christmas I will get the pole tazer. Love to show and tell with the young men.
I think you have to be Amish to pull this one off. I don't think I would have the cojones.
NO MONEY!! NO LOVE!!
LOL. The future is alway brighter!
Mother always said "Look at a girls mother and you will see your wife in 20 years". This advice could save so much suffering it ain't funny. LOL.
Yup, if your going to go trade-in the old junker make sure you get the model with all the extras. Job, looks and money to burn (on you:)
What is under the hood counts more than what you see on the outside. Seen too many make a bet and lose to know this is golden.
Ah...the "Test Drive"
LOL. The "old" spare tire.
Yes, I agree!! I would add a few months of torture. Would be a great tp perform tests on these individuals and spare the animals.
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Post by neil on Dec 15, 2007 10:43:40 GMT -6
If I'm going to cheat on my wife, I sure as heck don't want 14 year old kid. You wouldn't let an amateur doctor operate on you would you? No. You want a professional, not a 14 year old who wants to be a doctor. Wha?!? Chris Hansen may be targeting you soon! Watch out for the cameras. |
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Post by knighter on Dec 15, 2007 10:57:43 GMT -6
As a father of 2 little girls....
Lay a finger on my daughter pedophile type, I am not scared to go to prison for murder.
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Post by captainpp on Dec 15, 2007 11:28:51 GMT -6
I took a coaching coarse because I was thinking of coaching in the upper level's but most of the openings where for girl sport's. I thought what the heck it's a way to get in. After some research I decided just to stay where I'm at. There was so much in that coarse about covering one's a$$ that it scared me silly. I understand for some of you, that you think a coaching coarse is a bother. Just have to say it help myself some. Just wondering if these coaches were young in their career's and if coaching opposite sex was a 1st.
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Post by carson101 on Dec 15, 2007 11:51:16 GMT -6
I have two attractive daughters, to younger is stunning. The oldest one wants a boyfriend and here I am with the difficulty, I don't like the boys that have interest, they are dumb and just want to have sex. On the other hand I try to let my girls make the right choice but these grown men/women going after children just erk me and each time It happens I get abit more concerned.Now the solution is educate you kids,kill the bastards that want to hurt them,and piss on legal system that is supposed to prevent this. My youngest was molested by a family member and is in prison, I hate the fact the sob's that do this crap do a couple of yrs then get to get out and do it again. Watch predator on the msnbc channel sometime it is just sickning, how many of these bastards are out there. Watch you kids,hug them and make damm sure you know where they are who they are with and for internet protection use safe-eyes so you know who, what and why they are chatting with people they may not know. My two cents. Also some good books to have your kids read are Every young mans battle, and Every young womans battle.
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Post by touchdowng on Dec 15, 2007 11:51:43 GMT -6
AIRRAIDER
As you say. "we are all creatures of temptation"
BUT if somebody feels the temptation to cross this very clear line, go get help and DO IT NOW.
I have temptations to drink a beer (and usually temptations wins); gamble (temptations sometimes wins and I rarely do). BUT, temptation to cross that particular line?.....if the temptation is there, go seek help!!!!!
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 15, 2007 12:20:33 GMT -6
I find this the strangest topic of this broad, but a couple things I encourage ALL of you to do is to look up where the pedophiles are located in your area. I was very surprised and scared when I did this and found out there was a few of them in my local area and a lot within 100 miles. I dont care where you live I bet there are a couple around you and I think every body should know where they are even if you are not a parent you should know. Also go to this web site and please sign up to receive Amber Alerts by email and text msg. I was abducted when I was a child(the same time Adam Walsh was). I think to many people disregard these alerts because they dont think they will see anything, but you never know and it only takes one person to save a kid. Last thing and then I am done. If you are having temptations get the hell away from kids. No coaching, teaching nothing and then get help. www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=991 |
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Post by carson101 on Dec 15, 2007 12:27:44 GMT -6
Here is another site that will tell you who is in your hood? www.familywatchdog.us/Here is another thought, it may seem weird that something like this is on this site but Coaches we are still coaching one another and the more awareness is going to better us. With that in mind if you want to know if your coaching prospects are questionable or even think that just by having a background check will suffice check them out yourselves,just to be safe. It won't hurt unless the person really is a creep. As for you younger coaches fantacy is dangerous because you will wind up in a situation that will destroy your life. The moral of this is "What is done or said in secret will be made public reguardless of what you may think" |
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Post by dubber on Dec 15, 2007 12:33:05 GMT -6
Another VERY important point:
NEVER PUT YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE ALONE WITH HER!
Even if all you were doing was talking about school, if she wants to, she can turn it into a "he touched me" he-said-she-said and you'll get fired.........I repeat: YOU WILL BE FIRED!!!! They will always take her side.
Some girls don't have daddies, and therefore, they look for the attention of older men. When the older man rejects advances, they can get upset and take it out on the former object of their affections.
They'll get their attention one way or another.
So, always have your door open, be smart about where you go with her, always have a third party present if possible......
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Post by wingtol on Dec 15, 2007 12:35:40 GMT -6
DC I hope you never get divorced since you just laid out on a public forum your thoughts and action plan on the whole thing LOL I think she would get a bit more than half if this post ever got out LOL  |
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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2007 12:37:56 GMT -6
I find this the strangest topic of this broad, but a couple things I encourage ALL of you to do is to look up where the pedophiles are located in your area. I was very surprised and scared when I did this and found out there was a few of them in my local area and a lot within 100 miles. I dont care where you live I bet there are a couple around you and I think every body should know where they are even if you are not a parent you should know. Also go to this web site and please sign up to receive Amber Alerts by email and text msg. I was abducted when I was a child(the same time Adam Walsh was). I think to many people disregard these alerts because they dont think they will see anything, but you never know and it only takes one person to save a kid. Last thing and then I am done. If you are having temptations get the hell away from kids. No coaching, teaching nothing and then get help. www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=991 Strange yes, but also very important.. Because while hopefully most if not all of us would never do that.. none of us are safe from the possibility of being falsely accused of something just out of spite.. Had a coach at my school last year who was accused of saying something to the tune of "if we host a car wash all my girls will be in bikinis.." and he was forced to resign for it to not go public. He said he didnt say it.. but you never know.. same guy would often give girls rides home after practice... something I would NEVER do.. This stuff is real people.. it happens.. educate your younger coaches.. think about back when you were in college.. 20 or 21.. and some hot little 17 year old came on to you.. how would your moral compass spin then? So whats to say you are 21 fresh out of college.. and some girl comes on to you in a classroom.. you better believe it can happen.. and just know.. that if they catch you.. ITS OVER!!! SO DONT DO IT!!!!!!! Im fat and ugly.. so I dont have to worry.. its all you pretty boys Im worried about.. haha.. |
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Post by coachjimmer on Dec 15, 2007 13:14:45 GMT -6
As a father of a very beautiful 14-year-old daughter, I seriously do screen guys. I'd tell them, if you kiss my daughter, I will kiss you. If you have sex with my daughter, I will have sex with you. There is no exception to this rule. So far, no problems because they'd stay away from my daughter. Yes, my daughter is dating a boy and he is a very nice gentleman but I do keep my eyes on him. All the boys know I am very capable of hurting someone with my marital arts skills (Muay Thai kickboxing, Muay Boran, Brazilian Jui-Jitsu, Bushido, etc.). I'd tell them your Tae Kwon Do skills will not save you regardless. Your Krav Maga skills will not work either. By the way, my daughter is a Muay Thai kickboxing and grappling expert. I also am an owner of several firearms and rifles. Below is for your enjoyment of reading.  APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTERNote: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by a complete financial statement, school history, job history, ancestral linage, DMV printout, and a current medical report from your doctor, and CRIMINAL HISTORY. Name: Date of Birth Social Security #: Height: Weight: IQ: GPA: Driver’s License#: Boy Scout Rank and Badges: Home Address: Do you have one MALE and one FEMALE parent? If NO, please explain: Number of years they have been married: If less than your age, explain: Do you own a van? Do you own a truck with oversized tires? A waterbed? A pick up truck with a mattress in the back? A condom? Pornography? Do you have any body piercing? A tattoo? IF YES TO ANY QUESTION OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION AND LEAVE PREMISES!!!In 50 words or less, what does LATE mean to you? In 50 words or less, what does DON’T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER mean to you? In 50 words or less, what does ABSTINENCE mean to you? Church you attend: How often do you attend? When would be the best time to interview your: Father? Mother? Priest? Parole Officer: Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.A: If I were shot, the last place I would want shot would be: B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken in my: C: A woman’s place is in the: D: The one I hope this application does not ask me about is: E: When I first meet a girl, the thing I notice about her first is: Note: If answer E begins T or A, discontinue. Leave premises keeping your head low and running in a serpentine fashion is advised.What do you want to do IF you grow up? What is the current going rate of a motel room? Condoms come in packages of (circle one) A: 3 B: 6 C: 9 D: 12 E: All of the above How do you know? I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, RED HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY CLINTON KISS TORTURE.____________________________________________________ Signature (that means sign your name, moron) Thank you for your interest. Please allow four to six years for processing. You will be contacted in writing if you are approved. Please do not try to call or write (since you probably can’t, and it would cause you injury). If your application is rejected, you will be notified by two gentlemen wearing black shirts and white ties carrying violin cases (you might want to watch your back). Have a nice day!!! |
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Post by coachmoore42 on Dec 15, 2007 13:19:30 GMT -6
Anyone who feels the temptation to "cross the line" should take a look at the previously mentioned websites...and then picture your own name on there, because that's where it will end up if you do cross the line.
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 15, 2007 13:45:52 GMT -6
I'm playing devil's advocate here...
Why is it that a sex offender, after serving time and being released, has his/her name and address posted on a website, but any other felon (murderer or else) can serve their time, be released, and not have to do the same? Even if that person murdered a child? You could argue that this murderer is more dangerous to your child then a sex offender.
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 15, 2007 14:09:09 GMT -6
I'm playing devil's advocate here... Why is it that a sex offender, after serving time and being released, has his/her name and address posted on a website, but any other felon (murderer or else) can serve their time, be released, and not have to do the same? Even if that person murdered a child? You could argue that this murderer is more dangerous to your child then a sex offender. Just to answer your question. Convicted sex offenders are more likely to repeat offend then almost all or all( cant remember) other criminals. Just a reminder and I am sure you guys know this, but just because you don't have a daughter and you have a son. Boys are at just as much risk of being a victim of a predator as girls. As a father of a little guy and a victim of abduction I have a invested interest in this topic, so again I encourage you to check out both websites that carson101 and myself have posted. Airraider, As I read through the comments and your original post I realized I kind of took your post a different direction and I just wanted to apologize, it was not intentional I just wanted to inform you guys on what you can do to help protect your family. |
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Post by brophy on Dec 15, 2007 14:25:20 GMT -6
this isn't the first time airraider posted stuff like this. I'm betting he has a propensity for younger girls or something..... Honestly, I don't see how the <18 'predators' operate.....that just doesn't make any sense at all on a LOT of different levels. Do girls nowadays look completely different? absolutely....god bless our players who can expereience that. Thankfully, they didn't look like this when I was in school, as I would have never graduated. Secondly, a child molester and a murder are on different levels. A sexual predator operates in power & control. Their effects complete destroy the psychology of their victims and families and many of those that are victims, by in large either become emotionally damaged or become predators themselves. A murderer usually operates in sociopathy. Their effects are pretty apparent, loss product (theft) or people get killed. For those who have a thirst for blood, are the small minority of serial killers and those guys don't get out of prison. Thank god, for the death penalty that recently convicted a turd that raped a 5 year old in our community. One of my HS coaches open courted one of my classmates when I was in school. Even then, I had no respect for that kind of thing. To me, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because the whole thing is built from a house of cards, no matter how good she looks. For the sake of COACHING, I think it is important that we HELP each staff member stay away from situations like this. Don't isolate "those guys", but mentor them and keep them accountable (don't make bad decisions) |
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 15, 2007 14:25:27 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that a released murderer, whatever his motives or supposed likeliness at recidivism, is somehow safer to my children then a sex offender.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 15, 2007 14:49:11 GMT -6
Im convinced that dcohio is a little screwed in the head for even suggesting some of the stuff he did. Sounds like he needs some help.......
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Post by brophy on Dec 15, 2007 14:57:27 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that a released murderer, whatever his motives or supposed likeliness at recidivism, is somehow safer to my children then a sex offender. while I agree (once you cross THAT line, you are never the same), I think there are several dynamics at work... Did the "murderer" kill because; 1) was being abused by their spouse? 2) was being abused by their guardian? 3) was defending themself in a break-in / bar fight? 4) accidently run over someone 5) hunting accident 6) killed a cheating spouse in a moment of rage 7) murdered someone, knew they were guilty, and called the police 8) killed someone and disposed of the body 9) killed someone and ate their remains 10) by dumbluck couldn't prove their innocence in a court of law Murder in the 1st degree or Involuntary Manslaughter....a murderer is a murderer, right? Now a child molestor / sex offender......has targets all around them (ANY public place) and no boundaries to prevent further recidivism ......you have to 'create' those boundaries by enforcing their residence. If no 'boundaries' exist, these people will continue to help themselves to their selfish pleasures. If & when they offend, it won't be a one-time thing.....they will manipulate and coerce their victims to remain silent, believe they brought it on, etc.....you may not even know if someone has been 'offended'.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2007 15:26:51 GMT -6
Never thought this would come up on this board, but I do want to share a personal story so others can learn from my mistake. I have no problem sharing this, but maybe some will. I don't know.
I haven't told many people this, but here's a situation that happened with me. It does not involve my current job. A girl stopped by my room after school one day for help on a research paper. The advice I was always given was keep the classroom door open, so people can't suspect anything. Trust me, the door was open! Anyway, she was really struggling with a few concepts so we ended up being there until almost 4:45. The school day ended at 3:20. Long story short, the girl felt the need to offer me an "oral gift" to show her appreciation for my efforts. Obviously, I refused.
At the time, I figured it was best to not tell anyone to save her (and myself) embarassment. However, once I left the school, I told a few people I trusted the story. They told me I was very wrong, because the girl could have taken the rejection personally and then fabricated the events to get me in trouble. They said I should have told the principal immediately. Just some advice if any of you get in a similar situation. Looking back on it now, I didn't do anything wrong, but may have been seriously screwed by not talking.
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