bhubb
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Post by bhubb on Nov 17, 2007 11:30:43 GMT -6
Have been using wilson gst last few years, cost a lot and seem to break down quickly. Takes a while to break in for QB and receivers. Anyone use the wilson composite 1715 or 1705. How do they hold up, are they easy to throw/catch? Weather-proof? Our state association mandates we use wilson in the playoffs so I would like to stick with wilson. What have been good for you guys? We are a small school and haven't had any kids that would need to use a college type ball in high school to prepare them for the next level if that is a concern(one DII QB). Want a ball that is easy to hold, throw, and catch. Any thoughts? Suppose this could become a poll.
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Post by sls on Nov 17, 2007 13:35:47 GMT -6
Indiana uses the GST.
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Post by Tooch43 on Nov 17, 2007 13:43:36 GMT -6
GST by choice here in Maryland. You can use whatever you want in Maryland as long as it has a federation stamp on it.
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 17, 2007 13:47:53 GMT -6
Baden. But next year in Minnesota we have to use Wilson in playoffs so I think we'll be switching for next season.
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Post by Mav on Nov 17, 2007 14:26:51 GMT -6
We tried out the new Reebok balls this year and liked them. Our QB has smaller hands and liked the slimmer profile. They also liked the tackiness -- the GSTs get very slippery when wet.
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Post by spencerxi on Nov 17, 2007 18:06:16 GMT -6
I would avoid the composite balls, spend the $$ on the gst if you can. If that what you have to use in the playoffs then stick with the same ball through the season, at least for the skill position players sake!. You could use teh cheap balls for kicking in practice to save teh good ones a while longer.
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Post by miami5 on Nov 17, 2007 19:45:03 GMT -6
we use nike 2000 and or 3000
2000 is a little bigger , more like gst
3000 little slimmer and more $$
both are great and hold up well , very good in the rain
In CT for playoffs you have to use spalding which i don't like
Greg
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Post by coachdjenkins on Nov 17, 2007 21:36:56 GMT -6
We use GST. But Louisiana has a current contract that mandates that Baden be used in the state championship game.
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Post by airraider on Nov 18, 2007 6:59:13 GMT -6
We use GST. But Louisiana has a current contract that mandates that Baden be used in the state championship game. I think the GST's are a universal favorite.. and I hate the Baden rule.. came close to having to worry about it last year.. but might be a while before I have to again.. Coach Jenkins.. I am pulling for you guys to take it all the way again this year.. I was pulling for Rayville.. but they stunk it up and fell out.. I just want to have all spread teams win this year.. I think South Plaquemines and Bastrop have it locked down.. and if St. James can pull it out in 2A I wouldnt mind.. I am not sure if anyone really just throws it around in 5A.. |
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Post by k on Nov 18, 2007 9:58:25 GMT -6
My QB likes the GSTs but I have to say that they hold up HORRIBLY. One day practicing in the rain and they are now kickballs. I found the Baden perfection balls hold up a million times better. After we went through all the GSTs we had purchased for the entire season for QB balls and gameballs after 3 games I went with Baden and used the next three balls for the rest of the season and they are still in great shape.
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Post by coachnorm on Nov 18, 2007 11:56:48 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've seen anyone use the GST around here. I got a couple from a salesman as samples and wasn't all that impressed. In Kansas you can use any ball that has a NFHS seal, but what I see most teams using seems to be the spalding ST-5. We've used the five panel balls because our QBs have preferred them. I think that it's important to let the QB use what he's comfortable with.
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Post by coachbw on Nov 18, 2007 16:10:51 GMT -6
We have to use a Wilson in the playoffs. Last year we used the leather Wilson TDS. This year, our QB preferred the composite Wilson TDS so we bought that. I didn't mind at all since they were only about $30 a ball. They held up really well and we were actually using the same game balls for 2-3 weeks instead of putting new ones in every week like we did with the leather ones.
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Post by coachdjenkins on Nov 18, 2007 19:14:59 GMT -6
Airraider -- Your pick for 5A would have to be Destrehan.
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Post by aztec on Nov 18, 2007 20:41:20 GMT -6
In So Cal we have to use the Spaulding Balls. It is a mandate by our Federation. Some teams tried to cheat the system a few years ago (even doctored the ball with paint) and lost all of their home playoff games.
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coachf
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Post by coachf on Nov 19, 2007 8:36:05 GMT -6
TDS. We used GST's last year and I really didn't care for them. It may be that I am used to TDS.
BTW, we bought a butt load of TDS composites for practice. They are fantastic. Yes, they are sometimes slick and don't replicate the feel of a leather ball, but they stay nice forever and are very cheap.
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Post by airraider on Nov 19, 2007 8:40:47 GMT -6
Airraider -- Your pick for 5A would have to be Destrehan. So they throw it around a little huh? Good, then I will follow them from here on out. No real favorites up in 5A right now.. |
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Post by waltflanagansdog on Nov 19, 2007 9:28:51 GMT -6
TDS
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Post by superpower on Nov 19, 2007 9:52:55 GMT -6
Baden Perfection
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Post by gunrun on Nov 19, 2007 9:57:03 GMT -6
We use the Wilson, but from past experience, I believe the Nike balls hold up better.
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Post by gunandrun on Nov 19, 2007 12:23:14 GMT -6
TDS Kids like the leather and the composite versions.
ST5 is our state ball in (required for champ games only)
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Post by coachmacplains on Nov 19, 2007 13:28:57 GMT -6
Our guys like the feel of the Baden so we went with them; plus they are less expensive than the Wilson TD. As for them lasting, we replace game balls every year or two anyway, so we don't feel we lose any value from using the cheaper ball.
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bhubb
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Post by bhubb on Nov 20, 2007 9:00:53 GMT -6
For those of you that use a composite ball, how do they handle in the rain or cold weather? I have heard they get slick when wet. Any comments?
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Post by mitch on Nov 20, 2007 9:06:15 GMT -6
We use the ST5.
Next year our association is mandating Reebok in the playoffs. If the state doesn't furnish the balls, then we are going to use the ST5 anyway. Anybody else just use what they want even though your state association says to use something else?
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Post by coachmacplains on Nov 20, 2007 14:52:52 GMT -6
For those of you that use a composite ball, how do they handle in the rain or cold weather? I have heard they get slick when wet. Any comments? Yes, we have found that the Baden composite does get slick, so we bring the Wilson TD as backup if anticipating rain. |
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Post by redbudfan on Nov 20, 2007 21:21:23 GMT -6
I would avoid the composite balls at all cost. Unless you players do not sweat or your area doesn't get rain. Once they get wet they are the slickest ball I have ever used.
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Post by spencerxi on Nov 21, 2007 7:57:39 GMT -6
I cringe aa a former QB at the thought of using composite balls. I understand it cuts costs, but to me it like giving your wife a cubic zirconium for her wedding ring. Its just not the real thing!
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Post by coachmacplains on Nov 21, 2007 11:04:09 GMT -6
I would avoid the composite balls at all cost. Unless you players do not sweat or your area doesn't get rain. Once they get wet they are the slickest ball I have ever used. I would probably be the same way if we were in a region of the country that gets a lot of rain, but in my twenty years I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've coached in it. |
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Post by redbudfan on Nov 21, 2007 11:26:22 GMT -6
Sweat is just as bad though. They really do suck when they get wet from any source I would reccomend buying one and using it at practice. We bought 9 two years ago because our qb used one at a camp and loved it. But once we practiced with them and the kids perspired they were useless. Pretty much like holing on to a ball with oil on it.
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