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Post by CanyonCoach on May 30, 2024 8:31:17 GMT -6
How long is a film session?
WHat things do you do to prepare athletes for film study? How do you teach them to watch film?
How large are your film study groups?
Who leads the film study groups?
Thanks
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Post by els36 on May 30, 2024 8:55:26 GMT -6
We try to keep them 15 minutes or less.
We really focus on their keys. For linebackers we really focus on their keys and their guard/tackle releases. For offensive line, we really focus on how their d-line reacts to blocks. Especially as a puller. Are they going to wrong arm you (then we pin their shoulder and 2nd puller will wrap wide for counter).
We split up by position. Linebackers, Dline, DBS. We do the same for offense
Each position coach leads their film group. We create playlists in hudl for things we want kids to specifically see/study. This way its no overwhelming for players.
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Post by jcamerot on May 30, 2024 9:16:37 GMT -6
No more than 15 minutes. Have your position coaches be very prepared with what clips they're showing and what points they are trying to get across to the players. Have been in too many situations where coaches were just 'winging it' and wasting everyone's time.
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Post by larrymoe on May 30, 2024 11:53:29 GMT -6
If I were to be reincarnated as a HC, I think I'd do away with watching film with the kids altogether. I just don't think it did any good.
Looking back at it, I think we did it just because "we were supposed to". I wonder how much of my life was wasted doing {censored} that didn't have any effect on anything, but we just did it because it was expected.
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Post by jgordon1 on May 30, 2024 19:41:15 GMT -6
I will curate the film into about 20 plays mostly for formation recognition So I'll take 150 plays and whittle it down to about 18=20 so 2x2 75% pass here are the 4 top routes 2 backs 65% run here are the top plays etc
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Post by mc140 on May 30, 2024 21:08:32 GMT -6
I show 12-15 plays of the opposing offense. Let kids see favorite plays, explosive players. If they want to watch more they can. Some do, some don't.
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Post by 44dlcoach on May 30, 2024 21:33:48 GMT -6
Our Scouting report meeting takes about 40 minutes, that's not all film, we talk adjustments, formation checks, our blitz schemes, etc. in that time.
Saturdays we spend about 45 minutes watching film from Friday's game together. I think watching the previous game film together is hugely valuable. I may be in the minority on this but I think it's as important as just about anything we do in-season.
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Post by CS on May 31, 2024 5:49:43 GMT -6
If I were to be reincarnated as a HC, I think I'd do away with watching film with the kids altogether. I just don't think it did any good. Looking back at it, I think we did it just because "we were supposed to". I wonder how much of my life was wasted doing {censored} that didn't have any effect on anything, but we just did it because it was expected. A ton. Very few people look at the things they do and cut out time wasters. I was talking to a guy a few weeks ago who worked for a guy that would keep them on Sundays until 1 am. I don’t understand guys like that. The only explanation I can come up with is they hate their wives |
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Post by tripsclosed on May 31, 2024 5:58:47 GMT -6
If I were to be reincarnated as a HC, I think I'd do away with watching film with the kids altogether. I just don't think it did any good. Looking back at it, I think we did it just because "we were supposed to". I wonder how much of my life was wasted doing {censored} that didn't have any effect on anything, but we just did it because it was expected. A ton. Very few people look at the things they do and cut out time wasters. I was talking to a guy a few weeks ago who worked for a guy that would keep them on Sundays until 1 am. I don’t understand guys like that. The only explanation I can come up with is they hate their wives It's funny the value that is arbitrarily placed on varsity HS football; in pretty much any other sport, the players nor the parents would tolerate this kind of stuff, they would simply say hey man this is absurd and silly (or just never even show up to begin with when they hear about it through the grapevine), but because it's varsity HS football, it somehow "just means more" and so players and parents implicitly or sometimes even expressly go along with the crazy...Like imagine if a coach tried that in high school rec or even travel basketball, they would get laughed out of the room by the players, parents, and their own coaches, and would not get taken seriously...I'm not saying varsity HS football cannot have value placed on it, just that it seems to arbitrarily get more value placed on it than other sports "cause reasons." |
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Post by lws55 on May 31, 2024 6:04:30 GMT -6
I will make up a playlist of 10-15 plays. I will put a note for each LB on the film. I coach all of the LBs in a 3-4 so I have 4 notes on each clip. We will go over as many as we can in our lunchtime film sessions but then they are expected to watch the rest and focus on the info I gave them. Some do, Some don't. The majority of the guys that get significant playing time watch the film.
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Post by larrymoe on May 31, 2024 6:08:09 GMT -6
If I were to be reincarnated as a HC, I think I'd do away with watching film with the kids altogether. I just don't think it did any good. Looking back at it, I think we did it just because "we were supposed to". I wonder how much of my life was wasted doing {censored} that didn't have any effect on anything, but we just did it because it was expected. A ton. Very few people look at the things they do and cut out time wasters. I was talking to a guy a few weeks ago who worked for a guy that would keep them on Sundays until 1 am. I don’t understand guys like that. The only explanation I can come up with is they hate their wives It's always been a part of my personality, but as I get older, there's nothing I hate more than wasting time. You're only given so much time on this earth. And you don't know how long that is. I can't think of anything dumber than wasting it watching a poorly shot film of some 16 year olds trying to run an offense their coach doesn't understand. |
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Post by bluboy on May 31, 2024 8:34:12 GMT -6
We will show players cut-up's of top plays run from top 5 formations. Film session is 20 minutes at the very most.
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Post by Defcord on May 31, 2024 8:47:36 GMT -6
I hate doing whole team film study. The only time I really do it is if there awesome effort plays I want to highlight to the team.
I prefer meeting in position groups so all the information being related is relevant to the whole room.
I think about 15 - 20 minute is a good amount of time.
We do send out practice notes and game notes to players weekly though and I find it very beneficial. We do 5 plays from practice and 10-15 from the game. We then are intentional about asking kids follow up questions. A major majority of kids watch them. Some don’t.
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Post by coachwoodall on May 31, 2024 11:25:58 GMT -6
How long is a film session? WHat things do you do to prepare athletes for film study? How do you teach them to watch film? How large are your film study groups? Who leads the film study groups? Thanks If you are talking about in season film work: We do it by position groups DL/ILB/OLB/DB and OL/WR/QB/RB We meet during school in our athletic period which is 45 minutes. -There is a team wide meeting for 10-15 minutes some days, which includes ST of the day for the whole team -Then split to positions, each coach can watch as much as he wants but usually go for 15-20 minutes depending HC dictates what is be done on each particular day -Monday is a little longer film time b/c of cleaning up previous game, plus scout/install -HC only wants cut ups of specific items ---good/bad of Friday game ---specific plays of the practice script for the day ---film cut ups for scout team to mimic opponent, this created by HC ---practice reps cut ups to fix/adjust at practice that day Basically meeting (including film study) is meant to be specific and meaningful. No just rolling the film to kill time or to watch it on the fly. |
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Post by bluboy on May 31, 2024 18:20:45 GMT -6
We watch film of previous game on Saturday. Players see no more than 20 plays (the good, the bad, and the ugly); that's it.
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Post by wolfden12 on May 31, 2024 19:34:08 GMT -6
I always think it comes down to the program/Head Coach.
Every place is different and have to adjust to that. As mentioned above, doing just to do or what has always been done has gotten to me as I've gotten older. There are those that will watch or benefit from and those that do not and it has a lot to do with in my opinion, kids attention spans.
The shorter the better. No more than 15 minutes and has to be organized. Drives me nuts when guys aren't prepared and wing it. If too lazy, ask another coach what you want and have them put together. However, field work has become more beneficial with some kids and having them watch film and fill out scouting reports. I'm at the point of trying to find what is best year in and year out, individualized per position group and/or kids and don't be afraid to be creative or try new things.
The biggest thing is that I think you have to get them engaged, on the edge of their seat waiting to be called on and be creative in your presentations.
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Post by tabs52 on Jun 1, 2024 6:53:03 GMT -6
I hate watching film as a team, just turns into coaches talking over each other. I prefer positional settings, what I started to do was give my linemen a list of questions to answer, and we review that
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