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Post by coachwoodall on May 25, 2024 6:49:28 GMT -6
My first thought was to a negative yardage onside kick I saw one time. Grass field, onside hit a wicked spot of turf and bounced backwards for a net of -3 on the KO. JV game, no real kicker.... not once but twice TRYING to kick it deep, kid is toe kicking the ball and scuffs it real bad. Ball spinning like a top goes 12-13 yards...... and we recover both. |
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Post by realdawg on May 25, 2024 6:52:26 GMT -6
To piggy back off that. We are playing a JV game with no real
Kicker. JV kid toes it. And it’s a hard line drive that drills the center kid on the front line square in the face mask. Ricochets back to our kicker who recovers it. I say. Man. That will never happen again! Well. The next night we are playing the varsity game. We have a good kicker who usually puts it in or near the end zone. But something happens and he slips and loses his footing or something and the exact same thing happened! After the game their coach asked us if we practiced that kickoff!
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Post by blb on May 25, 2024 6:59:20 GMT -6
My first thought was to a negative yardage onside kick I saw one time. Grass field, onside hit a wicked spot of turf and bounced backwards for a net of -3 on the KO. As a spectator once saw a JV kid punt the ball backwards - over his head, behind him. Don't ask me how. It wasn't the wind either. |
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Post by bobgoodman on May 25, 2024 7:46:54 GMT -6
My first thought was to a negative yardage onside kick I saw one time. Grass field, onside hit a wicked spot of turf and bounced backwards for a net of -3 on the KO. As a spectator once saw a JV kid punt the ball backwards - over his head, behind him. Don't ask me how. It wasn't the wind either. Happens very easily, you just have to drop the ball late. Saw it last year by our 13U when the HC decided our actual punter should not be out there. What I'd like to know is how play proceeded from there. Were both teams aware that they had nothing to lose by playing the ball -- or even that they could play it? Accidental overhead kicks may become less frequent as the Australian drop punt technique gains popularity. |
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Post by freezeoption on May 25, 2024 9:08:59 GMT -6
One team we played back in 2000, their defensive huddle they had to fire their feet the whole time in the huddle. We were pounding them. They stop firing their feet and the coach hollers to fire feet. They holler back we're exhausted.
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Post by silkyice on May 25, 2024 9:13:37 GMT -6
Not dumb, but more funny.
Middle school game. Other team kicking an extra point. Snap isn’t great so it takes a second to get the ball down. We have a rusher get through pretty clean and he happens to be our kicker. He and the other kicker are right there staring at the ball on the tee for a split second and then our guy kicks the ball the other way. Hahahaha
A blocked kick via kick.
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Post by blb on May 25, 2024 11:08:05 GMT -6
What I'd like to know is how play proceeded from there. Were both teams aware that they had nothing to lose by playing the ball -- or even that they could play it? It was a long time ago so I don't remember exactly. I think when the ball stopped rolling with nobody chasing it (again, JV game) Referee blew it dead. |
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Post by bignose on May 25, 2024 11:47:45 GMT -6
More dumb stuff seen during the career:
We used to number our pass patterns by series: 3 step drops were 30/40 (left/right), 50/60 series were 5 steps, you get the idea.
We are in a semi controlled early season scrimmage with officials.
"Flub-a-dub", our 270 lb. dog slow left tackle gets flagged for being an "ineligible down field."
I mean way down the field, like 30+ yards!
We asked him why?
"You called 68 Pass," pointing to his chest: "That's my number."
He looks down at his jersey and exclaims: "Oh $hit! I'm 67!"
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Post by silkyice on May 25, 2024 12:13:45 GMT -6
More dumb stuff seen during the career: We used to number our pass patterns by series: 3 step drops were 30/40 (left/right), 50/60 series were 5 steps, you get the idea. We are in a semi controlled early season scrimmage with officials. "Flub-a-dub", our 270 lb. dog slow left tackle gets flagged for being an "ineligible down field." I mean way down the field, like 30+ yards! We asked him why? "You called 68 Pass," pointing to his chest: "That's my number." He looks down at his jersey and exclaims: "Oh $hit! I'm 67!" Hahahahahahaha |
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Post by dhj on May 25, 2024 21:34:19 GMT -6
We're blowing out an opponent early in the season & cycling 2nd/3rd stringers throughout the fourth quarter. We're taking a knee on the final two snaps of the game with a few newbies on the field. Our TE takes a knee on the first snap. Our tackle then takes a knee with the TE on the last snap.
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Post by carookie on May 25, 2024 22:08:57 GMT -6
We're blowing out an opponent early in the season & cycling 2nd/3rd stringers throughout the fourth quarter. We're taking a knee on the final two snaps of the game with a few newbies on the field. Our TE takes a knee on the first snap. Our tackle then takes a knee with the TE on the last snap. Heck, my senior year in HS we had two OLS (both who ended up being D1 & honor roll students) take a knee when the coach called it in. I only have one superstition when I was a HC, the last practice before our first game of the season, the last thing we do is install "victory" (QB kneel down) |
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Post by jgordon1 on May 26, 2024 6:26:56 GMT -6
Ha, It actually happened last night. Our RB is tackled by a mess of defensive guys. the ref thinks the play is over and blows the play dead. however at the time he blew the whistle the ball was on the ground, the other team fell on it. the ref goes to our coach as says look i made a mistake, it was an inadvertent whistle, my coach say thank you but the ref awarded the ball to the other team . Dumbest thing I ever saw. also same game the other teams QB is also their punter so the fake like they might run a play every 4th down we obviously have to make a call yet the ref say that we can not line up our nose over the center. if they shift to a punt formation we just slant him. that might be the second dumbest thing Ive seen all in the same night
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Post by silkyice on May 26, 2024 14:49:38 GMT -6
Ha, It actually happened last night. Our RB is tackled by a mess of defensive guys. the ref thinks the play is over and blows the play dead. however at the time he blew the whistle the ball was on the ground, the other team fell on it. the ref goes to our coach as says look i made a mistake, it was an inadvertent whistle, my coach say thank you but the ref awarded the ball to the other team . Dumbest thing I ever saw. also same game the other teams QB is also their punter so the fake like they might run a play every 4th down we obviously have to make a call yet the ref say that we can not line up our nose over the center. if they shift to a punt formation we just slant him. that might be the second dumbest thing Ive seen all in the same night Last night? |
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Post by agap on May 26, 2024 18:02:25 GMT -6
Ha, It actually happened last night. Our RB is tackled by a mess of defensive guys. the ref thinks the play is over and blows the play dead. however at the time he blew the whistle the ball was on the ground, the other team fell on it. the ref goes to our coach as says look i made a mistake, it was an inadvertent whistle, my coach say thank you but the ref awarded the ball to the other team . Dumbest thing I ever saw. also same game the other teams QB is also their punter so the fake like they might run a play every 4th down we obviously have to make a call yet the ref say that we can not line up our nose over the center. if they shift to a punt formation we just slant him. that might be the second dumbest thing Ive seen all in the same night Last night? I believe he’s still coaching over in Europe. |
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Post by blb on May 27, 2024 6:17:55 GMT -6
Once had a player last name Stack. Outstanding RB but dumb as soup.
Since we didn't two-platoon he had to practice somewhere on defense so that was FS. Put him as far away from ball as possible so he could do least damage if he ever had to play.
To wit: During two-a-days when installing 70 Stack Blitz while he was in he asks, "Coach - does that mean I blitz?"
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Post by SAcoach on May 27, 2024 6:42:35 GMT -6
1. Our defensive lb intercepted a ball and ran the wrong way. The other lb was chasing after him the whole way so he kept running faster until he got to the endzone and spiked it. Other team picked it up for a td.
2. Running Gt and one of our guards had a habit of pulling when he should be down blocking. Well in the game both guards pull and run into each other and the correct guard slugs the guard in the face and then continues downfield to go do his job. Luckily the lbs ran into each other die to the pull reads.
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Post by bobgoodman on May 27, 2024 7:57:08 GMT -6
What I'd like to know is how play proceeded from there. Were both teams aware that they had nothing to lose by playing the ball -- or even that they could play it? It was a long time ago so I don't remember exactly. I think when the ball stopped rolling with nobody chasing it (again, JV game) Referee blew it dead. That's correct officiating. Same as when both teams walked away from an incomplete but lateral pass, as I've seen. The real officiating conundrum is when that situation comes up in baseball or softball! So that answers my other question: Nobody on the field on either team was aware they could play the ball. |
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Post by fantom on May 27, 2024 8:23:14 GMT -6
What I'd like to know is how play proceeded from there. Were both teams aware that they had nothing to lose by playing the ball -- or even that they could play it? It was a long time ago so I don't remember exactly. I think when the ball stopped rolling with nobody chasing it (again, JV game) Referee blew it dead. We had that happen in a varsity game on a FG attempt. Our normally reliable kicker squirted one badly that rolled dead at the one. The official stood over the ball and held off on the whistle. Trouble is nobody was on the field. Our guys trotted off dejected and the other guys ran off celebrating. Official just shrugged and blew it dead. |
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Post by breakerdog on May 27, 2024 8:43:36 GMT -6
This is a text I sent to a friend a few years ago. (10-12 year old 9 man football)
Our first punt return. We have practiced this every day for 2 weeks.
Keep the defense in so no substitution to confuse matters more.
Kids line up like a regular defensive play. I start yelling at them "punt return, get back" and waiving my hands back. Meaning for the FS and DBs to move back to a return position.
The kids are of course totally confused. All 9 of them, including the D line all move back about 15-20 yards from the ball in a tight bunch.
The opposing coach goes nuts, trying to get his guys to change the play. I'm going nuts trying to get the dline back to the line of scrimmage. Ref whistles it in and the long snapper fires it off. Punter drops it because he wasn't ready, but no big deal because there is no rush.
Punter puts up a high short one. My entire team goes for it. It's like the ball is 500 dead or alive. The NT pushing the FS out of the way. Linebacker jumps up in front to catch it but it bounces off him and goes right back to the punt coverage team who pick it up and start running.
It's madness now, kids don't know what is going on. Half of them start running off the field with a live runner.
My DC tries to call time out in the middle of the play. The runner from the other team stops because of the time out call and our team walking off the field.
The FS from our team drills this kid into next week. Causing a fumble. We fall on it.
First down!
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Post by coachwoodall on May 27, 2024 10:11:08 GMT -6
This is a text I sent to a friend a few years ago. (10-12 year old 9 man football) Our first punt return. We have practiced this every day for 2 weeks. Keep the defense in so no substitution to confuse matters more. Kids line up like a regular defensive play. I start yelling at them "punt return, get back" and waiving my hands back. Meaning for the FS and DBs to move back to a return position. The kids are of course totally confused. All 9 of them, including the D line all move back about 15-20 yards from the ball in a tight bunch. The opposing coach goes nuts, trying to get his guys to change the play. I'm going nuts trying to get the dline back to the line of scrimmage. Ref whistles it in and the long snapper fires it off. Punter drops it because he wasn't ready, but no big deal because there is no rush. Punter puts up a high short one. My entire team goes for it. It's like the ball is 500 dead or alive. The NT pushing the FS out of the way. Linebacker jumps up in front to catch it but it bounces off him and goes right back to the punt coverage team who pick it up and start running. It's madness now, kids don't know what is going on. Half of them start running off the field with a live runner. My DC tries to call time out in the middle of the play. The runner from the other team stops because of the time out call and our team walking off the field. The FS from our team drills this kid into next week. Causing a fumble. We fall on it. First down! I love it when a plan comes together. |
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Post by silkyice on May 27, 2024 10:55:38 GMT -6
This is a text I sent to a friend a few years ago. (10-12 year old 9 man football) Our first punt return. We have practiced this every day for 2 weeks. Keep the defense in so no substitution to confuse matters more. Kids line up like a regular defensive play. I start yelling at them "punt return, get back" and waiving my hands back. Meaning for the FS and DBs to move back to a return position. The kids are of course totally confused. All 9 of them, including the D line all move back about 15-20 yards from the ball in a tight bunch. The opposing coach goes nuts, trying to get his guys to change the play. I'm going nuts trying to get the dline back to the line of scrimmage. Ref whistles it in and the long snapper fires it off. Punter drops it because he wasn't ready, but no big deal because there is no rush. Punter puts up a high short one. My entire team goes for it. It's like the ball is 500 dead or alive. The NT pushing the FS out of the way. Linebacker jumps up in front to catch it but it bounces off him and goes right back to the punt coverage team who pick it up and start running. It's madness now, kids don't know what is going on. Half of them start running off the field with a live runner. My DC tries to call time out in the middle of the play. The runner from the other team stops because of the time out call and our team walking off the field. The FS from our team drills this kid into next week. Causing a fumble. We fall on it. First down! This is great. I lol'd throughout the whole story. |
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Post by blb on May 27, 2024 11:35:14 GMT -6
Many years ago I saw the great Lem Barney of the Lions swoop in and pick up a punt that had stopped rolling but not blown dead yet between three opponents and run it back for a TD.
I always made sure to tell our players that when a punt stopped moving to pick it up and hand it to the nearest official.
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Post by bignose on May 27, 2024 15:42:39 GMT -6
Re Dumb stuff I've seen:
Watching a JV game before our Varsity game started:
The JV scores a safety, and lines up at the 30 waiting for the kickoff from the 20. (At least the coaches got that part right).
The kicking team elects to punt the ball. Nothing out of the ordinary here.
The kicker hits a 15 yard, very high kick, and our young JV coaches, thinking that it was like a regular punt, start yelling: "Get away, get away." fearing a muffed recovery.
Trouble is it ain't like a punt, it's a live ball!
The kicking team recovered the highest onside kick I've ever seen. lol
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Post by coachwoodall on May 27, 2024 20:01:21 GMT -6
Re Dumb stuff I've seen: Watching a JV game before our Varsity game started: The JV scores a safety, and lines up at the 30 waiting for the kickoff from the 20. (At least the coaches got that part right). The kicking team elects to punt the ball. Nothing out of the ordinary here. The kicker hits a 15 yard, very high kick, and our young JV coaches, thinking that it was like a regular punt, start yelling: "Get away, get away." fearing a muffed recovery. Trouble is it ain't like a punt, it's a live ball! The kicking team recovered the highest onside kick I've ever seen. lol We won a tough ball game b/c after a safety, we went for the surprise onside kick and recovered. But yeah, covering all the little odds and ends of the rules is hard especially for sub varsity...... heck most varsity kids still think there is no contact after 5 yard rule for man coverage. |
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Post by bobgoodman on May 28, 2024 8:42:19 GMT -6
Many years ago I saw the great Lem Barney of the Lions swoop in and pick up a punt that had stopped rolling but not blown dead yet between three opponents and run it back for a TD. I always made sure to tell our players that when a punt stopped moving to pick it up and hand it to the nearest official. Very dangerous thing to do! If you're the punting team, not so dangerous, because picking the ball up should make it dead, but if the officials don't see that's happened and you try to hand the ball to one of them (who maybe thinks if it's just resting on your outstretched palm you don't really have possession), it's still live, and now the other team has a spot of first touching they can use or refuse. If you're the receiving team, extremely dangerous, because the official will just refuse to take it and leave it as a live ball dropping to the ground, first touched by the receiving team. Play to the whistle. Once you hear the whistle, you can just put the ball on the ground unless a nearby official politely asks for it. |
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Post by coachg13 on May 28, 2024 8:54:20 GMT -6
I've seen the same thing happen twice. First time was coaching in the game, second time was film of our next opponent.
We are up 7, opponent scores with 4 seconds left. Kid punts it out of the back of the endzone. Unsportsmanlike penalty. Their kicker can't kick it far enough after the penalty on the PAT so they have to go for 2 from the 18 yardline and lose by 1.
Second time was our first round playoff opponent. They went from playing from a potential region title to third place and a 3 hour bus ride to play us. Kid scores on a hail mary and ripped his helmet off. They tried to kick it but kicker didn't get it within 10 yards of the crossbar. Lose by 1.
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Post by bulldogsdc on May 28, 2024 9:27:36 GMT -6
Many years ago I saw the great Lem Barney of the Lions swoop in and pick up a punt that had stopped rolling but not blown dead yet between three opponents and run it back for a TD. I always made sure to tell our players that when a punt stopped moving to pick it up and hand it to the nearest official. Very dangerous thing to do! If you're the punting team, not so dangerous, because picking the ball up should make it dead, but if the officials don't see that's happened and you try to hand the ball to one of them (who maybe thinks if it's just resting on your outstretched palm you don't really have possession), it's still live, and now the other team has a spot of first touching they can use or refuse. If you're the receiving team, extremely dangerous, because the official will just refuse to take it and leave it as a live ball dropping to the ground, first touched by the receiving team. Play to the whistle. Once you hear the whistle, you can just put the ball on the ground unless a nearby official politely asks for it. Play to through the echo of the whistle, Bob. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on May 28, 2024 9:28:29 GMT -6
Many years ago I saw the great Lem Barney of the Lions swoop in and pick up a punt that had stopped rolling but not blown dead yet between three opponents and run it back for a TD. I always made sure to tell our players that when a punt stopped moving to pick it up and hand it to the nearest official. Very dangerous thing to do! If you're the punting team, not so dangerous, because picking the ball up should make it dead, but if the officials don't see that's happened and you try to hand the ball to one of them (who maybe thinks if it's just resting on your outstretched palm you don't really have possession), it's still live, and now the other team has a spot of first touching they can use or refuse. If you're the receiving team, extremely dangerous, because the official will just refuse to take it and leave it as a live ball dropping to the ground, first touched by the receiving team. Play to the whistle. Once you hear the whistle, you can just put the ball on the ground unless a nearby official politely asks for it. I would imagine that nobody here is coaching their punt return team to pick the ball up and hand it to an official. I'd say as the punting team it's the safest thing to do when the ball has stopped, and it's what we coach our team to do. We actually say "surround the ball, let it roll as long as it's rolling 'our way' and then pick it up." |
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Post by blb on May 28, 2024 10:40:07 GMT -6
Many years ago I saw the great Lem Barney of the Lions swoop in and pick up a punt that had stopped rolling but not blown dead yet between three opponents and run it back for a TD. I always made sure to tell our players that when a punt stopped moving to pick it up and hand it to the nearest official. Very dangerous thing to do! If you're the punting team, not so dangerous, because picking the ball up should make it dead, but if the officials don't see that's happened and you try to hand the ball to one of them (who maybe thinks if it's just resting on your outstretched palm you don't really have possession), it's still live, and now the other team has a spot of first touching they can use or refuse. If you're the receiving team, extremely dangerous, because the official will just refuse to take it and leave it as a live ball dropping to the ground, first touched by the receiving team. Play to the whistle. Once you hear the whistle, you can just put the ball on the ground unless a nearby official politely asks for it. I only told our coverage team to pick it up and hand it to the official, not if we were receiving. Never had an official who we handed it to rule as in your first paragraph. It would still be better than us ignoring the no longer moving ball, walking off and an opponent picking it up and running it back. Obviously if we didn't 1) Catch it and run, 2) Fair Catch It, or 3) Get away from it as Receiving team we wouldn't have done that. |
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Post by rsmith627 on May 28, 2024 10:46:54 GMT -6
Thanks for the thread guys. We have two weeks of school left and I need something chuckle worthy. These are great.
Some years back a few stops back we were installing a new offense. Pulling guards got the play direction confused, pulled right into one another in our preseason scrimmage running QB counter, and knocked each other out for two weeks with concussions. Somehow with all of that going on our QB managed to reel off a 75 yard TD lol
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