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Post by bulldogsdc on Apr 23, 2024 6:38:30 GMT -6
How do you think the football staffs at Columbia and Yale are going to handle recruiting with all this protesting? Is it a situation where you can just say focus on BALL?
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Post by brophy on Apr 23, 2024 7:20:50 GMT -6
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that their roster isn't filled with jewish athletes, so.....
Aren't NCAA athletic programs completely silo'd socially from 'regular' people, anyway?
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Post by bulldogsdc on Apr 23, 2024 8:16:44 GMT -6
IDK. It's Ivy League. I thought no scholarships for football were allowed.
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Post by spartan on Apr 23, 2024 8:39:54 GMT -6
Lol, #AGTG Just received my 5th offer from Columbia.
Nothing changes in the recruiting cycles.
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 23, 2024 8:49:17 GMT -6
IDK. It's Ivy League. I thought no scholarships for football were allowed. I have a running back at Princeton who got plenty of funding. It just isn't allowed to be called an athletic scholarship lol. I don't know entirely what his process was like but I imagine it works pretty similar to the D3s who don't do athletic scholarships either. |
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 23, 2024 8:49:30 GMT -6
Those protesters are a very small minority of nerds who can't spell SPORTS.
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Post by bulldogsdc on Apr 23, 2024 8:52:15 GMT -6
IDK. It's Ivy League. I thought no scholarships for football were allowed. I have a running back at Princeton who got plenty of funding. It just isn't allowed to be called an athletic scholarship lol. I don't know entirely what his process was like but I imagine it works pretty similar to the D3s who don't do athletic scholarships either. Is the funding for all or just a handful of relative studs? |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 23, 2024 9:14:42 GMT -6
I have a running back at Princeton who got plenty of funding. It just isn't allowed to be called an athletic scholarship lol. I don't know entirely what his process was like but I imagine it works pretty similar to the D3s who don't do athletic scholarships either. Is the funding for all or just a handful of relative studs? I am not entirely sure. If you dig into how the Ivy's work it allegedly is all need based funding only. |
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 23, 2024 9:17:46 GMT -6
I would handle it by saying the university is dealing with it.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 23, 2024 10:36:38 GMT -6
Is the funding for all or just a handful of relative studs? I am not entirely sure. If you dig into how the Ivy's work it allegedly is all need based funding only. I have a player at Dartmouth. He choose between that and the service academies. I don't think he is paying anything. |
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 23, 2024 18:24:38 GMT -6
We had a player who was recruited by an Ivy in 2019. He was not going to pay anything. He ended up at a group of five school....and didn't pay anything either.
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Post by fantom on Apr 24, 2024 10:12:29 GMT -6
We had a player who was recruited by an Ivy in 2019. He was not going to pay anything. He ended up at a group of five school....and didn't pay anything either. At "non-scholarship" schools the financial aid guy is one of the most important people on staff. |
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Post by coachdmyers on Apr 24, 2024 11:33:05 GMT -6
The Ivy schools have largely implemented systems of need-based aid. Tuition is on a pretty generous sliding scale, and for many students, zeros out tuition, books, and I think even housing. It's available to any student that's accepted, which is why it doesn't get counted as athletic aid.
What many of them do have, however, are restrictions on how many students they can get into the school to play sports. And from what I understand based on a brief interaction with one of their coaches who was recruiting one of our kids, there are a few different tiers of kids they can "get in" with lesser qualifications than the general student population. Something like two kids that might not quite have 4.0s and a full load of AP/IB/Running start classes. But there might be some variance in admissions policies.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 24, 2024 11:51:59 GMT -6
The Ivy schools have largely implemented systems of need-based aid. Tuition is on a pretty generous sliding scale, and for many students, zeros out tuition, books, and I think even housing. It's available to any student that's accepted, which is why it doesn't get counted as athletic aid. What many of them do have, however, are restrictions on how many students they can get into the school to play sports. And from what I understand based on a brief interaction with one of their coaches who was recruiting one of our kids, there are a few different tiers of kids they can "get in" with lesser qualifications than the general student population. Something like two kids that might not quite have 4.0s and a full load of AP/IB/Running start classes. But there might be some variance in admissions policies. This |
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Post by tog on Apr 24, 2024 23:15:18 GMT -6
protesting about what?
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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2024 4:58:21 GMT -6
they're college sophomores.....FIGHT THE POWER, DUUUUUDE |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 25, 2024 5:52:43 GMT -6
Israel / Palestine. Columbia just sent their students home and will be virtual for the rest of the semester. Crazy. |
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Post by tog on Apr 26, 2024 16:23:37 GMT -6
israel and hamas/iran
got it
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Post by irishdog on Apr 30, 2024 11:22:20 GMT -6
How do you think the football staffs at Columbia and Yale are going to handle recruiting with all this protesting? Is it a situation where you can just say focus on BALL? Frankly, I don't know many football types that fit the complete narrative at those schools. I bet they'll have a tough time trying to convince parents of those types of young men to attend those two schools. |
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Post by freezeoption on Apr 30, 2024 20:08:34 GMT -6
I don't think football players are going to worry about this. If you get a chance to get a scholarship nowadays you better count your blessings.
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Post by jgordon1 on May 1, 2024 5:17:28 GMT -6
I coached at Yale many years ago. First off, most of these kids have plenty of choices. Second, the parents are very involved. Third, the aid packages each student gets are very similar. If you have choices, why go to a place that has all that nonsense. brophy I assume you are joking about your Jewish athlete comment but if not it's not a Jewish problem it is a society problem. Just my 2 cents |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2024 6:37:12 GMT -6
How do you think the football staffs at Columbia and Yale are going to handle recruiting with all this protesting? Is it a situation where you can just say focus on BALL? I think it’s important to realize that highschoolers considering those schools for the most part are not going to just”Focus on Ball”. |
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Post by jgordon1 on May 1, 2024 8:12:04 GMT -6
How do you think the football staffs at Columbia and Yale are going to handle recruiting with all this protesting? Is it a situation where you can just say focus on BALL? I think it’s important to realize that highschoolers considering those schools for the most part are not going to just”Focus on Ball”. a problem that we would have is a kid gets accepted to play, never shows up and decides it's not for him there is not a scholarship to take away |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2024 19:11:03 GMT -6
I think it’s important to realize that highschoolers considering those schools for the most part are not going to just”Focus on Ball”. a problem that we would have is a kid gets accepted to play, never shows up and decides it's not for him there is not a scholarship to take away Yep. When I was coaching 1AA ball up in the Southern North East (Or Northen Mid Atlantic lol) every once in a while Harvard, on the basis of its big name, would beat out a kid also being recruited by Stanford, Michigan, UCLA etc. Interestingly enough, coaching buddies that were in the Ivy League were never really that concerned because the prevailing wisdom was that if a kid chose Harvard over Michigan/Stanford/UCLA etc, then football wasn't really that important to him. |
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