|
|
Post by Coach.A on Apr 10, 2024 10:56:08 GMT -6
Does your state have rules for the number of players you can dress or the number of staff you are allowed on your sideline?
I'm looking to get our insanely restrictive limits changed in our area, and I'm trying to build our case by showing how out of sync we are with every other region.
|
|
coachtconkle
Freshmen Member
"Perfection is not attainable; but, if we chase perfection we can catch excellence" – V. Lombardi
Posts: 70 
|
Post by coachtconkle on Apr 10, 2024 11:31:23 GMT -6
Some school systems in my state have limits on how many coaches they will pay a stipend or coaching supplement, based on the school's classification as designated by the State's High School Athletic Assoc.; HOWEVER, if the Boosters' Club wants to pay more coaches, they can if they run the money through the school book-keeper/accountant. Some of the school systems have a set # of supplements for every school in the system regardless of student enrollment/classification; and some of them also allow the Boosters' Club to do as mentioned above.
As far as I know, schools in my state have as many players as they can safely outfit with practice and game gear/uniforms/etc. and how many buses you can use on away games (getting drivers is the hard part if Assistant Coaches do not drive the buses); or if you can afford to use Charter Buses for road games.
|
|
|
|
Post by larrymoe on Apr 10, 2024 11:51:45 GMT -6
Does your state have rules for the number of players you can dress or the number of staff you are allowed on your sideline? I'm looking to get our insanely restrictive limits changed in our area, and I'm trying to build our case by showing how out of sync we are with every other region. Define insanely restrictive. |
|
|
|
Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 10, 2024 12:33:59 GMT -6
Does your state have rules for the number of players you can dress or the number of staff you are allowed on your sideline? I'm looking to get our insanely restrictive limits changed in our area, and I'm trying to build our case by showing how out of sync we are with every other region. What are the restrictions? |
|
|
|
Post by Coach.A on Apr 10, 2024 22:01:42 GMT -6
Does your state have rules for the number of players you can dress or the number of staff you are allowed on your sideline? I'm looking to get our insanely restrictive limits changed in our area, and I'm trying to build our case by showing how out of sync we are with every other region. What are the restrictions? Ok, bear with me...we have no roster or staff size limits until the state championship game. In the state championship game, you are limited to 9 staff members on the sideline. Staff = coaches, trainers/medical staff, waterboy, ball boy, Equipment manager, etc. Basically anybody who isn't a player. You are only allowed to dress 56 Players in our state championship game. This is regardless of classification/school size. Can you imagine telling a kid (and his parents) who invested 4+ years into your program that they can't be on the sidelines for the state championship game?!? |
|
|
|
Post by carookie on Apr 10, 2024 22:33:59 GMT -6
Limiting the number of training staff seems like a health risk for players. I’d consider that being a point of contention if you try and fight this. And yes it does seem to be a bad rule.
|
|
|
|
Post by larrymoe on Apr 11, 2024 6:09:49 GMT -6
What are the restrictions? Ok, bear with me...we have no roster or staff size limits until the state championship game. In the state championship game, you are limited to 9 staff members on the sideline. Staff = coaches, trainers/medical staff, waterboy, ball boy, Equipment manager, etc. Basically anybody who isn't a player. You are only allowed to dress 56 Players in our state championship game. This is regardless of classification/school size. Can you imagine telling a kid (and his parents) who invested 4+ years into your program that they can't be on the sidelines for the state championship game?!? You have 56+ kids who are Jrs/Srs and some sophisticated that contribute? Man, people live different lives. I spent the majority of my career at places that didn't have 56 kids in the program, let alone 56 Jrs/Srs/contributors. Hell, the place I spent 7 years as HC, we had 50 varsity jerseys and never handed out all 50 9-12. I never coached at a place that 9+ staff members. What state is this? |
|
|
|
Post by Coach.A on Apr 11, 2024 7:41:35 GMT -6
We had 57 players on our Varsity roster
Our Frosh + JV roster = 65 players
We have approximately 950 students at our school.
|
|
|
|
Post by CS on Apr 11, 2024 7:49:20 GMT -6
You can have every swinging d!ck in the town on the sideline if you want here
|
|
|
|
Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 8:30:05 GMT -6
You can have every swinging d!ck in the town on the sideline if you want here have we worked together? |
|
|
|
Post by CS on Apr 11, 2024 10:12:24 GMT -6
You can have every swinging d!ck in the town on the sideline if you want here have we worked together? I asked someone on here the same question years ago and he didn't realize I was kidding. Made for an awkward back and forth. I know you don't give a sh!t but that was the first thing I thought when I read your message and I wanted you to have to think about that same thing next time someone says that to you. Kinda like paying it forward in a bad way...you're welcome |
|
|
|
Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 15:05:23 GMT -6
I asked someone on here the same question years ago and he didn't realize I was kidding. Made for an awkward back and forth. I know you don't give a sh!t but that was the first thing I thought when I read your message and I wanted you to have to think about that same thing next time someone says that to you. Kinda like paying it forward in a bad way...you're welcome that's why I responded that way  It's kind of one of the PITA things about being at a 'football school'..... everybody wants to be seen as part of the program. |
|
|
|
Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 15:06:12 GMT -6
What are the restrictions? Ok, bear with me...we have no roster or staff size limits until the state championship game. In the state championship game, you are limited to 9 staff members on the sideline. Staff = coaches, trainers/medical staff, waterboy, ball boy, Equipment manager, etc. Basically anybody who isn't a player. You are only allowed to dress 56 Players in our state championship game. This is regardless of classification/school size. Can you imagine telling a kid (and his parents) who invested 4+ years into your program that they can't be on the sidelines for the state championship game?!? There is not roster limits, but sideline passes are limited in SC |
|
|
|
Post by CanyonCoach on Apr 16, 2024 13:06:17 GMT -6
We get 65 in uniform, 9 coaches ( we have 6) on the field and space for 3 in the booth. We have to designate a trainer and managers.
|
|
|
|
Post by jstoss24 on Apr 16, 2024 20:05:51 GMT -6
Anybody in NC know the rule on this? I haven’t been blessed to make it that far yet, but I feel like it’d be a good thing to know.
|
|
|
|
Post by wingtol on Apr 20, 2024 5:27:00 GMT -6
An issue that less than 1% of teams nation wide would ever have to worry about. It is stupid but not being in a state title game in 25 years it would be of little concern to me. Its a first world problem
|
|
|
|
Post by coachwoodall on Apr 20, 2024 9:44:22 GMT -6
An issue that less than 1% of teams nation wide would ever have to worry about. It is stupid but not being in a state title game in 25 years it would be of little concern to me. Its a first world problem I totally agree. I've been fortunate to be there, and I've always reminded young guns to be sure to enjoy even the 1st round of the playoffs b/c it is a special thing. You should never take for granted the chance to go deep in the playoffs. BUUUUT.... When a team does make it all the way, is one of the final two, has been fighting for 12, 14, or in our state 18 weeks (including preseason); how can you tell that JV coach that does all the grunt work and is invaluable for so many things that are not Friday night "Son, you've got to buy a ticket and sit in the stands", or that scout team senior that does all the right things and that knows he will never step on the field for anything that comes close to meaningful minutes, "Thanks dude, you can watch the game on the NFHS channel"? I can understand that you can't let every Tom, Dick, and Harry stand on the sidelines, but considering most of these games are at college stadiums, or at least big venue HS stadiums..... Why? Has anyone actually looked at the sideline of a P5 regular season game? There are at least a 100 people on the edges that have nothing to do with the play of the game. Heck, I can call my alma mater and get a sideline pass anytime. |
|
|
|
Post by fantom on Apr 20, 2024 11:34:39 GMT -6
An issue that less than 1% of teams nation wide would ever have to worry about. It is stupid but not being in a state title game in 25 years it would be of little concern to me. Its a first world problem But first world problems are still problems. Maybe not for you but it is one for the OP. |
|
|
|
Post by wingtol on Apr 21, 2024 8:32:45 GMT -6
An issue that less than 1% of teams nation wide would ever have to worry about. It is stupid but not being in a state title game in 25 years it would be of little concern to me. Its a first world problem But first world problems are still problems. Maybe not for you but it is one for the OP. I know. And it's a dumb rule I agree. Just something most guys go "Mehhh doesn't have any effect on me" |
|
|
|
Post by 44special on Apr 21, 2024 15:51:51 GMT -6
no limits that i'm aware of for either in texas. as long as the school has money to pay for it.
|
|
mc140
Sophomore Member
Posts: 220
|
Post by mc140 on Apr 21, 2024 22:35:21 GMT -6
Illinois has no limit on players and up to 30 passes for coaches, managers and other school personal.
|
|
|
|
Post by coachwoodall on Apr 22, 2024 6:52:44 GMT -6
Illinois has no limit on players and up to 30 passes for coaches, managers and other school personal. those paper passes, easy to replicate.... |
|
mc140
Sophomore Member
Posts: 220
|
Post by mc140 on Apr 22, 2024 13:54:46 GMT -6
Illinois has no limit on players and up to 30 passes for coaches, managers and other school personal. those paper passes, easy to replicate....
A school got sanctioned for forging passes a few years ago here.
|
|
