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Post by footballjake on Mar 10, 2024 17:27:34 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
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Post by jstoss24 on Mar 10, 2024 18:15:31 GMT -6
I'm sure it's different everywhere, but my current program doesn't even have a cowboy collar in our inventory. The last school I was at had one and it was used every year. It makes me wonder if inventory isn't one of the biggest reasons.
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Post by CS on Mar 10, 2024 18:24:09 GMT -6
We have a few kids who wear them. Bada$$es
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Post by fantom on Mar 10, 2024 18:52:16 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
Can't speak about the collars but I know why the forearm pads went away. Around 1980, give or take, forearm pads started phasing out after hand blocking was legalized. It eventually dawned on people that forearm shivers got you too close to blockers and gave them something to grab onto.
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Post by irishdog on Mar 10, 2024 20:16:40 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
Can't speak about the collars but I know why the forearm pads went away. Around 1980, give or take, forearm pads started phasing out after hand blocking was legalized. It eventually dawned on people that forearm shivers got you too close to blockers and gave them something to grab onto. Same as how you don't see those big ol' shoulder pads being used by anyone anymore. I, for one, have noticed many more shoulder injuries nowadays with guys wanting to wear pop warner sized shoulder pads.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 10, 2024 20:50:44 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
I think better tackling techniques have contributed especially keeping the head out of it and head behind on tackles instead of head in front. Also, get a Kerr collar if they need stinger protection. Forearm pads went away when you could start using hands on offense. Jockstraps went away with compression short and compression girdles. Showering went away but is now back. Of course this is different by team. Salt tablets are alive and well. The last three schools and last 15 years we have heavily used salt tablets. And we rarely cramp. I truly believe that cramping is more of a function of electrolyte imbalance that it is a lack of water. In fact, too much water helps create that imbalance. Kids nowadays stay mostly hydrated and still cramp. Add in the salt tablets and that can vastly improve. Play in Alabama where it is hot and humid. Axe went away around 10 years ago at the schools I coach. THANK THE GOOD LORD.
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Post by CS on Mar 11, 2024 3:59:46 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
I think better tackling techniques have contributed especially keeping the head out of it and head behind on tackles instead of head in front. Also, get a Kerr collar if they need stinger protection. Forearm pads went away when you could start using hands on offense. Jockstraps went away with compression short and compression girdles. Showering went away but is now back. Of course this is different by team. Salt tablets are alive and well. The last three schools and last 15 years we have heavily used salt tablets. And we rarely cramp. I truly believe that cramping is more of a function of electrolyte imbalance that it is a lack of water. In fact, too much water helps create that imbalance. Kids nowadays stay mostly hydrated and still cramp. Add in the salt tablets and that can vastly improve. Play in Alabama where it is hot and humid. Axe went away around 10 years ago at the schools I coach. THANK THE GOOD LORD. 😂 Axe is alive and well at my school
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Post by MICoach on Mar 11, 2024 7:59:41 GMT -6
We have a whole box of old cowboy collars in the equipment room...inevitably one kid wears one then like 10 kids want to wear them.
After like the third kid I always consider hiding the box.
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 11, 2024 8:26:02 GMT -6
We were forced to wear forearm pads my freshman year of HS in 1990. Stupidest piece of equipment ever. Never wore one after, never saw another player wear one unless they had an injury. Never played with or coached a player who wore a cowboy collar. Never saw one in the equipment room. Wore a cup for a couple games as a freshman, but never did after that season. Didn't wear a jock either.
I did wear Reggie White shoulder pads in college too. Definitely would have worn those itsy bitsy knee, thigh and hip pads too. As a 1 or 3 tech, any padding was pretty much unnecessary. I wasn't getting too many high speed collisions. It was more wrestling in that world.
I did shower after every practice, but that was more my wrestler skin disease paranoia than anything else.
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Post by jstoss24 on Mar 11, 2024 9:12:21 GMT -6
We were forced to wear forearm pads my freshman year of HS in 1990. Stupidest piece of equipment ever. Never wore one after, never saw another player wear one unless they had an injury. Never played with or coached a player who wore a cowboy collar. Never saw one in the equipment room. Wore a cup for a couple games as a freshman, but never did after that season. Didn't wear a jock either. I did wear Reggie White shoulder pads in college too. Definitely would have worn those itsy bitsy knee, thigh and hip pads too. As a 1 or 3 tech, any padding was pretty much unnecessary. I wasn't getting too many high speed collisions. It was more wrestling in that world. I did shower after every practice, but that was more my wrestler skin disease paranoia than anything else. A cup is a hard no for me for football. A coach I used to work for had a friend lose his manhood in a broken cup accident as a kid. When I played 10-15 years ago, everybody showered after practice and we weren't getting on a bus back from a road game without taking a shower. Nowadays, I don't think I could pay our kids to shower before an hour and a half bus ride home.
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Post by footballjake on Mar 11, 2024 9:42:47 GMT -6
We have a whole box of old cowboy collars in the equipment room...inevitably one kid wears one then like 10 kids want to wear them. After like the third kid I always consider hiding the box. It's always monkey see, monkey do with kids!
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Post by coachtconkle on Mar 11, 2024 11:00:55 GMT -6
I see the occasional cowboy collar but it is rare. Back in the day, the way they were fastened/tied to the shoulder pads (or the jersey itself) it seemed like it was for "looks" (meaner, intimidation factor, I don't know) rather than for functional (health-related or injury-related) purposes.
As for forearm pads, not only did use of hands become more common and legal, I was seeing a lot of players being penalized and/or ejected from games for an illegal forearm or alleged "slugging."
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Post by carookie on Mar 11, 2024 18:51:15 GMT -6
Cowboy Collars went out early to mid aughts. When the NFL bought in full bore on smaller pads = more speed being better. It trickled down since then.
Forearm pads were a rarity 40+ years ago. As others have written, once players were freed up to use their hands those things became a bulky waste.
Nobody showered when I was in HS 30+ years ago. And rarely has any kid on a team I coached. Save for when we had multi day team camps.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 11, 2024 19:19:37 GMT -6
I couldn't run with a cup in. Wore one as a catcher but it was out when I was up to bat. Always wore a jock. Swimming, basketball, football and wrestling. I loved the jpad that covered the knuckles and forearm. Neck rolls came out toward the end of my career. We always had to take showers. Had to do push-ups naked in 9th grade pe because someone didn't take a shower.
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Post by fantom on Mar 11, 2024 20:12:33 GMT -6
When I played in the late '60s everybody showered no matter how light the workout and everybody wore a jock. I never wore a cup and I don't think anybody did.
I don't know when wearing jocks and showering stopped being a thing but I know that it's been over 20 years.
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Post by irishdog on Mar 11, 2024 21:23:18 GMT -6
When I played in the late '60s everybody showered no matter how light the workout and everybody wore a jock. I never wore a cup and I don't think anybody did. I don't know when wearing jocks and showering stopped being a thing but I know that it's been over 20 years. Never wore a cup. Wore a jockstrap under my athletic shorts (think Larry Bird length). Wore standard issue gray t-shirt under the shoulder pads...old shoulder pads with only two slide-on straps. Wore a girdle (tight) with hip/tail pads in the pockets. Wore pants (practice and game) with pockets for thigh pads and knee pads with a tie-up front and cotton belt. The thigh pads would always shift around. Wore knee length game socks and a pair of cotton socks over. Wore Riddell cleats. Wore a cotton practice jersey (short sleeved), and a short-sleeved cotton game jersey w/twill numbers that buttoned between the legs. Wore a Riddell suspension helmet in HS, and a MacGregor plastic helmet w/full padding inside in college. After practices and games we ALL took showers. Some longer than others! I played in the late 60's early 70's.
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Post by coachtua on Mar 13, 2024 12:51:19 GMT -6
Early 2000s (2003) my brothers were starting to wear the butterfly pad at the HS level.
Had a kicker/punter at my last school wear a cowboy collar because his frosh/soph years he also played DE. He was the starting WR his JR/SR year that could also drop down and play TE. He even wore it in college
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 13, 2024 12:58:47 GMT -6
Every once in a while I wonder if shin guards would/should be a piece of equipment for football players. I still have some scars on my shins from playing days. Getting cleated in the shin hurt like a mother!
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 13, 2024 13:02:10 GMT -6
I see the occasional cowboy collar but it is rare. Back in the day, the way they were fastened/tied to the shoulder pads (or the jersey itself) it seemed like it was for "looks" (meaner, intimidation factor, I don't know) rather than for functional (health-related or injury-related) purposes. As for forearm pads, not only did use of hands become more common and legal, I was seeing a lot of players being penalized and/or ejected from games for an illegal forearm or alleged "slugging." I agree about the cowboy collar. I wore one all through high school in the 90's and stopped wearing one by my last year of college (early 00's). It did absolutely nothing, other than slightly restrict you're head and neck movement.
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Post by bignose on Mar 13, 2024 13:13:12 GMT -6
Dating myself here:
Girdle? I had a belt worn inside the lace up pants with butt and hip pads. Thigh and knee pads worn in pockets in the pants.
I wore a jock under whitey tighties. I tried a cup, that looked like a recycled oxygen mask, but it rubbed me raw along my groin. Not a lot of fun.
Lace up front shoulder pads
Forearm pads. Yeah I had them and wore them. I was a center and a two handed snapper, my arms took a beating. I played in the era when extending your arms at more than a 45 degree angle was considered "illegal use of hands."
We were taught shoulder blocking and butt blocking. (For you younger guys the term "Butt Blocking" had nothing to do with your posterior. It meant that you aimed with your forehead at the defender, bulled your neck, and butted him.)
8 inch lace up shoes with 3/4 metal tipped cleats, just like Johnny Unitas! All games played on real dirt.
Suspension strapped two bar facemask until my senior year, when I got a padded helmet with a 4 bar cage.
Mix and mold mouthpiece. You had to mix two substances together, stick it in your mouth, and wait until they hardened. Was messy when you had the usual adolescent braces.
Sometime in the mid to late 1970's the kids stopped showering en masse after practice and games. It was when gay kids began coming out publicly......
I do remember some shower room hijinks from my early coaching days involving kids sliding bare assed naked along the wet tile floor, until somebody slid out the locker room door into the hall.
The funny thing is Pop Warner still has a "cup check" before games, including their female athletes.
Cowboy collars? Kids these days want to look like speed guys, not the thick necked, lantern jawed types of my youth.
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Post by spark58 on Mar 23, 2024 16:45:35 GMT -6
I know technology changes but when did kids stop wearing cowboy collar, forearm pads, jockstraps /cups? Heck, nowadays showering after practices is not common from what I have heard, many shower rooms are now storage for old gear haha. At least I never got to experience salt tablets!
Went to a poorer school so we wore what we got and it was outdated but still worked but now it seems most programs and preferences have shifted. Also couldn't imagine getting into my mom's van back then without showering. Axe and heavy sweat is a WMD!
Any other similar shifts y'all have seen? Would imagine the longer one has coached the more changes you've seen.
I think better tackling techniques have contributed especially keeping the head out of it and head behind on tackles instead of head in front. Also, get a Kerr collar if they need stinger protection. Forearm pads went away when you could start using hands on offense. Jockstraps went away with compression short and compression girdles. Showering went away but is now back. Of course this is different by team. Salt tablets are alive and well. The last three schools and last 15 years we have heavily used salt tablets. And we rarely cramp. I truly believe that cramping is more of a function of electrolyte imbalance that it is a lack of water. In fact, too much water helps create that imbalance. Kids nowadays stay mostly hydrated and still cramp. Add in the salt tablets and that can vastly improve. Play in Alabama where it is hot and humid. Axe went away around 10 years ago at the schools I coach. THANK THE GOOD LORD. I second the Kerr Collar, my son was made fun of because we first tried a neck roll after a concussion and neck pain. Kerr Collar was great and effective.
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Post by 44special on Mar 24, 2024 6:52:56 GMT -6
i never knew cups existed. we all just wore jockstraps.
most of my equipment was similar to bignose. in high school, the girdle that included all the hip/tailbone pads worn under the pants didn't fit me well (i'm a small guy), restricted me, so i just didn't wear it. don't know if that was legal, but nobody ever said anything.
got a bruise or 2 to show from it, but that still didn't restrict me like the pads did.
didn't wear the forearm pads. i was a rb and dt. kinda needed them for the dt part, and some blocking as rb (wishbone and T), but wasn't good for carrying the ball, so no forearm pads. forearms were pretty ugly on saturdays.
this was 60's, early 70's.
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