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Hudl
Sept 21, 2023 4:01:35 GMT -6
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Post by realdawg on Sept 21, 2023 4:01:35 GMT -6
Anyone else just growing to hate hudl? First, they sent me the invoice for another school. How the heck does that happen? Then. It took them over a week to send me the correct invoice. They finally sent it two weeks ago. I had it paid the day I finally got it. Now they have locked my account and said I haven’t paid. 🤬. Sorry. end of rant.
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lws55
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Post by lws55 on Sept 21, 2023 9:16:47 GMT -6
They keep pushing the "NEW" Hudl but every time I try and use it to break down film it freezes on me. I have to close out my web browser and then bring it back up and find the last play I was working on. It is a pain in the A$$. I will stick with the classic only because we had a team in our league this year that used some other system that was supposed to be compatible with Hudl but it took 3+ hours to download and then load their film into Hudl.
Hudl has the market cornered and they know it, don't expect any changes soon.
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Post by cqmiller on Sept 21, 2023 13:30:55 GMT -6
NEW HUDL SUCKS @ss...
If they get rid of old-hudl,a lot of people will just get rid of it. You can share folders in google-drive if you want to and people can create spreadsheets for it. It would be a little more of a pain in the ass for it to not be all in one program, but they are trying to sell to people who don't use HUDL for all it can do anyway... Anyone who knows how to run their 1000 reports are the ones that will be pissed.
I know of about 50% of the schools around here who have at least 1 or both coordinator that don't put any data into it anyway. It is literally just an online video watching software. Saw HUDL presentation at a clinic one time that said average school runs 3 reports per season... since I run over 20 per week, that's a lot of schools doing 0 to bring the average down.
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Hudl
Sept 21, 2023 15:02:17 GMT -6
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Post by realdawg on Sept 21, 2023 15:02:17 GMT -6
I input data. And I run reports for formation/plays and D and D. But I still do hit charts by hand and put it on the board. But that’s mostly because I am a visual learner.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 21, 2023 19:30:31 GMT -6
I input data. And I run reports for formation/plays and D and D. But I still do hit charts by hand and put it on the board. But that’s mostly because I am a visual learner. There is brain science (as much as it is....) that says that doing something written, and the same typing/inputting, and drawing it can actually stimulates different parts of the brain and helps you to better learn. I.E. I write it by hand. I type it on a keyboard. I draw it with figures..... are all different pathways in the brain, but they all build pathways to the same content, and therefore my brain can better access these related parcels of information. |
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Post by realdawg on Sept 21, 2023 20:16:33 GMT -6
Yep. When I print off the hudl report I don’t see it. And I lose interest. When I write it out by hand I’m involved in the process and just get it better. I also draw scout cards by hand. Helps me learn the gameplan. And doing so I found a flaw in our plan this past Monday. If I printed them out. I’d have never seen it
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Post by agap on Sept 21, 2023 21:11:10 GMT -6
I like the new Hudl. I used it al the time when I was DC so I could get tendencies right away instead of having to run a report. As a position coach now, I just use classic Hudl because it's quicker.
I do not like Hudl Sideline though. There hasn't been a week in the past 3-5 years when we didn't have issues with at least something with it.
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Post by bigugly55 on Sept 21, 2023 21:28:10 GMT -6
I mostly prefer the "classic" Hudl but there is one thing I really like about the newer version.
As an OL coach, the ability to zoom in is really handy when trying to identify shades and techniques. Especially with some of the terrible quality film we get sometimes.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Sept 22, 2023 8:26:46 GMT -6
I've had a like/hate relationship with Hudl for some time. When I was still in Nebraska, we were one of the original high school test schools, so I've been with them 13-14 years. For a while, I loved it.
When I moved up to ND, we brought Hudl... and in a way ushered it in for use across the whole state (it was inevitable... so we shouldn't be praised nor condemned for that).
Our basketball coach liked the idea, so we got them on it right away. A year later, they came out with "free play tools" if you could get your basketball team to sign up. I asked if we could get that since our BB team was on.
"No. It's only for new enrollees"
This was the starting point of love turning to like/hate.
Most of our problems are pretty small, annoying ones. Ex. We now have Hudl focus and upload directly to our library (convenient- good). However, we upload with sound (bad... and this is beyond my control... trying to amend that situation). Even though I turn audio off to view film and leave it off EVERY TIME I COME BACK THE DAMN THING IS ON!. Their solution is re-upload with sound off, which is time consuming and still doesn't address the damn toggle switch always returning to "ON".
We've also had some issues with focus (opponent filmed and has camera issues).
Every time I contact assist, I get some smug, condescending non-answer that tells me to do something that I've either done already or doesn't even address the issue.
We've looked at other platforms, but with a statewide league pool, we now have to convince all the schools in our class to switch. That won't happen... so it looks like we are stuck in a bad marriage for the moment. Keeping it together for the kids...
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 23, 2023 11:11:50 GMT -6
I hated HUDL, but, not to defend them, customer service, or giving any sense of a {censored} about customers, seems to be as dead as the dodo in America.
Which is odd since we supposedly live in a "service economy".
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Hudl
Sept 23, 2023 12:57:05 GMT -6
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Post by tripsclosed on Sept 23, 2023 12:57:05 GMT -6
I hated HUDL, but, not to defend them, customer service, or giving any sense of a {censored} about customers, seems to be as dead as the dodo in America. Which is odd since we supposedly live in a "service economy". In a lot of cases, even when it's not a near or total monopoly like Hudl has, the company has the upper hand, because if the company doesn't offer good products and/or customer service, what's the customer gonna do, really? Get mad at Walmart and tell them they are going to start shopping at Kroger instead? "Cool, send pictures, we won't miss you, you're a piss in the bucket to us, but you probably will miss our cheap prices relative to Kroger." |
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 23, 2023 13:17:37 GMT -6
I hated HUDL, but, not to defend them, customer service, or giving any sense of a {censored} about customers, seems to be as dead as the dodo in America. Which is odd since we supposedly live in a "service economy". In a lot of cases, even when it's not a near or total monopoly like Hudl has, the company has the upper hand, because if the company doesn't offer good products and/or customer service, what's the customer gonna do, really? Get mad at Walmart and tell them they are going to start shopping at Kroger instead? "Cool, send pictures, we won't miss you, you're a piss in the bucket to us, but you probably will miss our cheap prices relative to Kroger." both those places. Aldi's where it's at.  |
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Hudl
Sept 23, 2023 16:19:27 GMT -6
Post by nicku on Sept 23, 2023 16:19:27 GMT -6
New HUDL was awesome when it first came out, but has gotten way too buggy like everyone else is saying.
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Hudl
Sept 27, 2023 8:43:28 GMT -6
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Post by RunThePistol on Sept 27, 2023 8:43:28 GMT -6
Qwikcut is awesome.
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Post by QBCoachDurham on Sept 27, 2023 10:02:11 GMT -6
I used Qwikcut for 2 years, and it is great. Does all the things Hudl does at a cheaper price. However, we had to go back to Hudl for 3 reasons: 1 - trading was too difficult with all the technology ignorant people we had to trade with 2 - college coaches don't know how to find the film 3 - when sending film into our all-star games, it was mostly ignored because it took them a few extra minutes to upload it I would love for Qwikcut to come into our state and offer a deal to get the entire state to use it. |
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Post by RunThePistol on Sept 28, 2023 8:42:19 GMT -6
We only used Qwikcut for practice, clinic tape, or College/NFL game film. Since Qwikcut has unlimited storage that was our best option.
I was at a school that was extremely talent rich, the coaching was staff was Dang good, and because of those two things we were playing 2 pre-season scrimmages, 1 jamboree, and 14-15 games a year for 5 years. We ate up the storage space in hudl extremely fast.
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Post by hlb2 on Nov 30, 2023 16:14:08 GMT -6
How can Hudl possibly justify this? I'm putting both sets of reports, one from new hudl and the others from old hudl. They are going backwards in my opinion. And for those that say Qwikcuts does everything Hudl does cheaper NO IT DOES NOT. They have nowhere near the detailed reports as old Hudl has. Not. Even. Close. The images below are from old hudl.   |
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Hudl
Nov 30, 2023 16:15:09 GMT -6
Post by hlb2 on Nov 30, 2023 16:15:09 GMT -6
These images are from "new hudl". Same team, same report.   |
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Hudl
Nov 30, 2023 16:21:17 GMT -6
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Post by cqmiller on Nov 30, 2023 16:21:17 GMT -6
I'm with you coach... it has been frustrating that they seem to be going the route of looking fancier on front-end at the expense of quality on the back end.
Since so few people run reports, they seem to not care about anything other than flash.
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Post by hlb2 on Nov 30, 2023 16:54:20 GMT -6
I'm with you coach... it has been frustrating that they seem to be going the route of looking fancier on front-end at the expense of quality on the back end. Since so few people run reports, they seem to not care about anything other than flash. Dear Lord, they are going to end me. Their reports are my life blood. 90% of our scouting reports are the Summary and Formation report from old Hudl. Has anyone used Catapult Thunder? I saw TCU using it at a visit this past spring and it looked pretty neat. Bulky, but neat and it had a very good looking interface. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 30, 2023 18:25:47 GMT -6
How can Hudl possibly justify this? I'm putting both sets of reports, one from new hudl and the others from old hudl. They are going backwards in my opinion. And for those that say Qwikcuts does everything Hudl does cheaper NO IT DOES NOT. They have nowhere near the detailed reports as old Hudl has. Not. Even. Close. The images below are from old hudl. monopolies don't need to innovate |
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 30, 2023 18:27:33 GMT -6
not to toot my own horn, but I barked this back when APEX sold out to them
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Hudl
Nov 30, 2023 18:34:40 GMT -6
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 30, 2023 18:34:40 GMT -6
Shrinkflation.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 1, 2023 4:22:11 GMT -6
As much as I hate to say it, we used VidSwap in place of hudl sideline the last 2 years due to cost. We will probably go back to hudl sideline after this year. We had 1 game where the replay system worked correctly the entire game.
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Hudl
Dec 1, 2023 9:12:14 GMT -6
Post by cwaltsmith on Dec 1, 2023 9:12:14 GMT -6
As many problems HUDL has, and there are definitely problems... It still beats the old way lol some of these young guys don't know what it's like to input all the data by hand lol HUDL assist gets some things wrong but it's still pretty handy, I like old HUDL better as well. All that to say this... I agree there are problems and wish it could be better, but I don't wanna go back for sure lol.
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Post by bluboy on Dec 1, 2023 9:45:46 GMT -6
I also use HUDL Classic. IMHO, the new HUDL has too much going on. I feel as if I'm in a car doing 100 MPH and everything is whizzing by me.
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Hudl
Dec 4, 2023 7:52:47 GMT -6
Post by hlb2 on Dec 4, 2023 7:52:47 GMT -6
The issue is they are discontinuing old hudl and I believe it will be very soon (2024 from what they told me). So we are being forced backwards IMO. I would actually pay extra to keep old Hudl.
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Hudl
Feb 24, 2024 16:52:32 GMT -6
Post by spark58 on Feb 24, 2024 16:52:32 GMT -6
I mostly prefer the "classic" Hudl but there is one thing I really like about the newer version. As an OL coach, the ability to zoom in is really handy when trying to identify shades and techniques. Especially with some of the terrible quality film we get sometimes. That is interesting, I used to breakdown film in classic mode with an ipad for the plays I wanted to zoom in and get more info. |
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 24, 2024 17:00:15 GMT -6
Hudl Classic for the win every time.
Does anyone get different numbers? One time I got different percentages for the how often a team ran to the boundary vs the field. I went back and checked in it Classic and then hand counted it. Classic was correct.
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Post by planck on Feb 24, 2024 17:35:19 GMT -6
Yep. The numbers in their reports are sometimes inexplicably wrong. I've gotten to the point that I just export the play data to excel and do all the statistical analysis by hand (I use R; I do this kind of work professionally). Their tools are just bad. It's an online viewing platform, that's it.
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