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Post by 19delta on Sept 4, 2023 6:07:39 GMT -6
Was at a D3 game on Saturday night. Back and forth, high-scoring contest. With about 3:30 left in regulation, the visiting team rips off a 70-yard TD run and takes the lead 41-35. However, they miss the extra point but still have 1 timeout remaining. Home team gets the ball back and drives down to the goal line. They have 1st and goal from the 1-yard line with all three timeouts. There is less than a minute left. They punch it in and kick the PAT to take the lead 42-41 with :48 left in regulation.
Here's my question...would it have been crazy for the home team to have taken a knee on 1st down to bleed time off the clock or at least force the visiting team to use their final timeout? Considering the home team had all 3 timeouts remaining, they would still have 3 downs to get the ball in the endzone. If they take a knee on 1st down and then score on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th down and then kick the PAT, the visiting team would get the ball back but with very little time on the clock and no timeouts.
My thinking is that the home team was not playing great defense and the visiting team only needed a FG to win the game.
Any thoughts?
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Post by blb on Sept 4, 2023 7:03:10 GMT -6
I don't think it's crazy but can you imagine having to explain that to your AD-alumni if you DON'T then score on 2nd, 3rd or 4th Down?!
Also, what if defense DOESN'T use their final TO after 1st Down? Think Belichick-Patriots vs. Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 4, 2023 7:23:23 GMT -6
I don't think it's crazy but can you imagine having to explain that to your AD-alumni if you DON'T then score on 2nd, 3rd or 4th Down?! Also, what if defense DOESN'T use their final TO after 1st Down? Think Belichick-Patriots vs. Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX. My thinking on that was if the defense does not use the timeout, the offense lets the clock tick down and then they snap it right before the play clock expires. If the offense doesn't score, they still have 3 timeouts with around 30 second left in regulation, which is an eternity. My thought process was that the home team (the team that took the lead 42-41) had not played great defense all night and was unable to get a stop when needed. And the visiting team only needed a FG. So, I would want them to have as little time as possible. |
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Post by blb on Sept 4, 2023 7:40:18 GMT -6
My thinking on that was if the defense does not use the timeout, the offense lets the clock tick down and then they snap it right before the play clock expires. If the offense doesn't score, they still have 3 timeouts with around 30 second left in regulation, which is an eternity. My thought process was that the home team (the team that took the lead 42-41) had not played great defense all night and was unable to get a stop when needed. And the visiting team only needed a FG. So, I would want them to have as little time as possible. Yes, I get all that, and you are not wrong. |
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Post by breakerdog on Sept 5, 2023 9:59:07 GMT -6
Was at a D3 game on Saturday night. Back and forth, high-scoring contest. With about 3:30 left in regulation, the visiting team rips off a 70-yard TD run and takes the lead 41-35. However, they miss the extra point but still have 1 timeout remaining. Home team gets the ball back and drives down to the goal line. They have 1st and goal from the 1-yard line with all three timeouts. There is less than a minute left. They punch it in and kick the PAT to take the lead 42-41 with :48 left in regulation. Here's my question...would it have been crazy for the home team to have taken a knee on 1st down to bleed time off the clock or at least force the visiting team to use their final timeout? Considering the home team had all 3 timeouts remaining, they would still have 3 downs to get the ball in the endzone. If they take a knee on 1st down and then score on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th down and then kick the PAT, the visiting team would get the ball back but with very little time on the clock and no timeouts. My thinking is that the home team was not playing great defense and the visiting team only needed a FG to win the game. Any thoughts? I hear you, but just couldn't live with myself if we f'd up and didn't score there somehow. In the end I would call run plays, try to use the full clock and just get it in without being too cute. I would rather give the kids a chance to win than being too cute and letting the football gods strike us down. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 5, 2023 19:20:48 GMT -6
Was at a D3 game on Saturday night. Back and forth, high-scoring contest. With about 3:30 left in regulation, the visiting team rips off a 70-yard TD run and takes the lead 41-35. However, they miss the extra point but still have 1 timeout remaining. Home team gets the ball back and drives down to the goal line. They have 1st and goal from the 1-yard line with all three timeouts. There is less than a minute left. They punch it in and kick the PAT to take the lead 42-41 with :48 left in regulation. Here's my question...would it have been crazy for the home team to have taken a knee on 1st down to bleed time off the clock or at least force the visiting team to use their final timeout? Considering the home team had all 3 timeouts remaining, they would still have 3 downs to get the ball in the endzone. If they take a knee on 1st down and then score on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th down and then kick the PAT, the visiting team would get the ball back but with very little time on the clock and no timeouts. My thinking is that the home team was not playing great defense and the visiting team only needed a FG to win the game. Any thoughts? There are only so many situations that you can force the opponent to burn a TO. The TO chart is pretty straight forward on defense.... If you take a knee when you can win the game, that's a plus for the Def. Everything with this and the supposed after is suspicion. In a back and forth game, you take what you can at the time. |
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Post by 21bucksweep on Sept 6, 2023 12:27:11 GMT -6
I think you have to take the points when you can get them. A couple of years ago in a bowl game with Coastal Carolina and Liberty, I think it was tied and Liberty had it inside the 10 and tried to burn the clock out and get a last second field goal. On 2nd and goal Liberty RB tried to go down before crossing the goal line and fumbled. Liberty won in OT, but I would've taken the 6 and forced them to score with 30 seconds left.
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Post by chi5hi on Sept 6, 2023 14:07:23 GMT -6
If you have a chance to score...SCORE!
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