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Post by Michael13 on Sept 1, 2023 8:29:12 GMT -6
So, I see and hear people discussing "their offensive scheme". Anytime I hear this I think a coach who limits himself to one scheme is limiting his chances for success. In high school sports you don't get to recruit to "your scheme". How many coaches run the same scheme every year and how many change their scheme based off the talent they have? Thanks for any input. I used to believe that you need to change your scheme year to year based on personnel and that was good coaching. However, I've changed my philosophy and believe that you're doing yourself and your players a disservice if your changing constantly. There are a few issues with this. 1. It doesn't allow your kids to fully grasp onto a specific system for the future. 2. There becomes a lack of belief in what the program does. 3. Hard to develop a program "identity" if your changing from year to year. and most importantly 4. A coach must do what he truly believes in. Now I'm not saying that you need to be facemelter, throwing the ball 40 times a game when you don't have a real QB. This is where I believe that your system in and of itself needs to be adaptable which is why I'm a fan of the power spread which allows us to play to our strengths from year to year. These all or nothing like schemes such as the double wing or Run and shoot don't exactly fit well with that. JMO. I agree with this. I believe in having a system that allows you to play to your players’ strengths within the system. Certain play series might be featured more so with we have an athletic QB with not-so-great arm talent, and other series featured when we have a more traditional drop back passer…. That kind of thing. But you won’t see us going from a spread, zone read look one year to a wishbone, triple option the next. We feel our system is set up to accommodate a wide and diverse range of athletic abilities year to year.
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Post by veerman on Sept 1, 2023 9:02:04 GMT -6
So if you are a wishbone guy, you are going to stick with it even in years where you aren't so good up front? One of the teams I follow runs flex bone regardless of personnel. Seems to me if you widen those two wing backs you make it easier to get the ball in space. I know, Hutch did well running it for a long time, but they had a string of beasts. Let’s get one thing straight here. In the flex they’re slots not wings. Wings are attached to TE. Also if you widen the slots then the timing is off on motions and give the defense time to adjust to it Answer is: YES!!! 10000000000000000000000000000% YES!!!!! That is what some look to change to when you are going to be in that situation with OL. I'm not a fan of changing your core system year to year. Your system has to be flexible enough to adjust to strengths but not change the core. If Dan Marino walks in, and you are a option guy (Flex, SBV, Wish) you are still going to install ISV/OSV, mid, mid triple, toss/fly/Quick pitch etc....you may not run those near as much as passing plays now that you have him, but they will still be ran and practiced. Coaches that would change and go full on spread or empty when he walks in from being a DW,Wing-T, SBV, or Flexbone, are putting every egg in one basket for one guy, when that guy is no longer there due to injury or graduation what do you do? Do you wholesale change offense again? I guess that's the question I have for you? If you changed your system for a player and he gets hurt week 5, are you changing systems again based on the talent of his backup?
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Post by echoofthewhistle on Sept 1, 2023 10:13:18 GMT -6
If you aren't so good up front - will you be better running something completely new to them, or what they've been doing since they got into HS (if not before)? If you're teaching fundamentals does where you line up change them? I just think you can give your kids a better chance to succeed if you get creative with formations. I'm all for every team being more creative with formations within there offense, but under center option blocking fundamentally is different. There not one universal way to teach blocking and the techniques can be scheme specific. Easy to see in stance, splits, and blocking surface.
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Post by coachjm on Sept 6, 2023 6:16:47 GMT -6
If you aren't so good up front - will you be better running something completely new to them, or what they've been doing since they got into HS (if not before)? If you're teaching fundamentals does where you line up change them? I just think you can give your kids a better chance to succeed if you get creative with formations. In my opinion if you are a flexbone guy and you have poor players on the LOS you are better off in running plays that hit quicker like under center flexbone then other slower hitting versions of option football.... If you are spread pass first guy and your poor up front you likely will need to run more quick/screen game to ensure your QB is protected so just like the flexbone coach would need to adapt so would the spread pass first guy.... I know my kids are generally better when we do the same concepts year to year adapting, anytime we make wholesale changes we can surprise someone for a week or have some success but it doesn't seem to lead to a great season... With that I said it has just been what is best for me through the years it doesn't mean it would be best for you, I would never contend my way is the only way and it may not be the best way, however, after years of searching for the best way I have deducted it is the best way for me to help my kids have the best experience they can.....
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Post by irishdog on Sept 6, 2023 7:53:24 GMT -6
If you're teaching fundamentals does where you line up change them? I just think you can give your kids a better chance to succeed if you get creative with formations. In my opinion if you are a flexbone guy and you have poor players on the LOS you are better off in running plays that hit quicker like under center flexbone then other slower hitting versions of option football.... If you are spread pass first guy and your poor up front you likely will need to run more quick/screen game to ensure your QB is protected so just like the flexbone coach would need to adapt so would the spread pass first guy.... I know my kids are generally better when we do the same concepts year to year adapting, anytime we make wholesale changes we can surprise someone for a week or have some success but it doesn't seem to lead to a great season... With that I said it has just been what is best for me through the years it doesn't mean it would be best for you, I would never contend my way is the only way and it may not be the best way, however, after years of searching for the best way I have deducted it is the best way for me to help my kids have the best experience they can..... Well said coach! Wherever you have gone your teams are always well coached, and have found success because of your leadership.
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