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Post by chi5hi on Aug 18, 2023 17:45:43 GMT -6
This has been on my mind lately because we are in the process of breaking down scout film and a lot of it is just very rough in terms of maximizing talent. I'm having a hard time determining whether it was always this bad, or I've just gotten better at seeing it over the years. Both. It HAS always been this bad and you ARE getting better at seeing it! Now you have to focus and determine what you are able to do to improve things. This is where some coaches write books on DRILLS! They make them up as they go along in order to teach something they've seen while breaking down scout film.
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Post by RnS-OC on Aug 18, 2023 18:27:18 GMT -6
To add - I get that most guys are just trying do a good job and are working with rough situations.
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Post by morris on Aug 20, 2023 7:27:48 GMT -6
There is some definitely some WTF moments when looking at film. One thing I’ve got to improve on is not over think it. Some teams really don’t line up or adjust well. Find one of those sets and kick the crap out of them.
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Post by redandwhite on Aug 22, 2023 7:24:11 GMT -6
Where I'm at almost everyone we play is very well-coached. Where poor coaching shows up is on special teams - although most are getting better there than it used to be.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 22, 2023 7:45:17 GMT -6
I'd say this year 6-/9 teams we play are going to be very well coached. The others will be tough because they're blessed with talent all over the place.
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 22, 2023 9:13:38 GMT -6
We play several that are well-coached... I know their coaches and I know that they do a good job, but 15-18 year old kids sometimes don't do their jobs.
Last week, the FIRST thing I put up on our HUDL for scout-film was tunnel screen. Showed them clips of them running it against their week 1 opponent, pulled up a cutup from 2 years ago of us defending it and literally hitting the WR so hard they didn't run it the rest of the game (2 years ago), and repped it in practice during the week... Friday night opponent went 3-4 for 200 yards and 2 TDs on tunnel! (90 yd. TD, 60 yd. TD, 50 yd. gain, Incomplete. Half of their offensive yards for the game. Looked like we had never talked/discussed it. NOT A HAPPY DAY FOR THE DC.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Aug 22, 2023 11:15:54 GMT -6
We play like 3 teams I would call “well-coached” on our regular season schedule. I don’t mean this in a disparaging way to our opponents as I get some are working through serious adversity (small staffs, low numbers, etc). But when we see teams who’s top run play is FB dive not blocking the PSLB, have WR’s blocking on pass plays, or constantly fumble snaps, it’s hard to consider them well-coached
I think the mark of a well-coached team is the line play and the special teams. If we see an OL crowding the LOS, constantly unsure of themselves, or letting unblocked players through, I know I’m not getting into much of a chess match with the other team. Same goes for guys who constantly have 10/12 guys on their kickoff units. I think you can spot attention to detail from a mile away
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Post by breakerdog on Aug 24, 2023 12:15:52 GMT -6
What I am seeing is a greater variety of scheme. With the ease of access to film and social media football coaches showing the inner workings of NFL/NCAA teams, the coordinators are getting more comfortable with doing more stuff. Pre Covid we got pretty much generic spread football from most opponents.
On the other hand, I am seeing less focus and worse fundamentally sound football. Just basic stuff like stance & start, back pedal, route running, blocking and tackling.
My guess is that there are less position coach craftsmen out there who really grind on basics and get the repetitious minutia correct. The running joke around here is the visor wearing OC with the facemelter offensive wizardry, but the truth is scheme is what is getting glorified in football and the people who create football content are pushing their products. You will get more hits on your Youtube page showing the new way to run Mesh that you will showing WR blocking drills.
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 24, 2023 13:54:43 GMT -6
What I am seeing is a greater variety of scheme. With the ease of access to film and social media football coaches showing the inner workings of NFL/NCAA teams, the coordinators are getting more comfortable with doing more stuff. Pre Covid we got pretty much generic spread football from most opponents. On the other hand, I am seeing less focus and worse fundamentally sound football. Just basic stuff like stance & start, back pedal, route running, blocking and tackling. My guess is that there are less position coach craftsmen out there who really grind on basics and get the repetitious minutia correct. The running joke around here is the visor wearing OC with the facemelter offensive wizardry, but the truth is scheme is what is getting glorified in football and the people who create football content are pushing their products. You will get more hits on your Youtube page showing the new way to run Mesh that you will showing WR blocking drills. The facemelting is starting to be an issue on the defensive side of the ball, too in my experience...
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Post by 3rdandlong on Aug 24, 2023 14:17:33 GMT -6
The bad teams do execute poorly. So instead of getting better at what they do, they think getting a new scheme and making a new adjustment is the way to go. Then you see them doing a whole bunch of stuff really badly....
The good teams, on the other hand, do a few things really well and make slight adjustments within what they already do when necessary.
With that being said, the teams we play are pretty well coached here in Southern California. And we're not in one of these crazy good leagues or divisions. We're a middle of the road public school team.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 24, 2023 17:28:19 GMT -6
What I am seeing is a greater variety of scheme. With the ease of access to film and social media football coaches showing the inner workings of NFL/NCAA teams, the coordinators are getting more comfortable with doing more stuff. Pre Covid we got pretty much generic spread football from most opponents. On the other hand, I am seeing less focus and worse fundamentally sound football. Just basic stuff like stance & start, back pedal, route running, blocking and tackling. My guess is that there are less position coach craftsmen out there who really grind on basics and get the repetitious minutia correct. The running joke around here is the visor wearing OC with the facemelter offensive wizardry, but the truth is scheme is what is getting glorified in football and the people who create football content are pushing their products. You will get more hits on your Youtube page showing the new way to run Mesh that you will showing WR blocking drills. The facemelting is starting to be an issue on the defensive side of the ball, too in my experience... I swear in the last two years I’ve heard a hundred new terms for shitt. I’ll be like what the hell is lightning thunder tornado blizzard check tsunami? Then it’s basically an amalgamation of bullshitt that has an answer for every offensive play ever invented with a punt return and field goal block built in.
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 24, 2023 18:11:06 GMT -6
The facemelting is starting to be an issue on the defensive side of the ball, too in my experience... I swear in the last two years I’ve heard a hundred new terms for shitt. I’ll be like what the hell is lightning thunder tornado blizzard check tsunami? Then it’s basically an amalgamation of bullshitt that has an answer for every offensive play ever invented with a punt return and field goal block built in. I am unfortunately guilty of falling into this despite not wanting to be like that. I guess it's just easier and natural to slip into conversing in the terminology that came with the system you learned the material from. I will say though if I fall into that and someone asks me what something means, I will gladly and willingly explain to the best of my ability what the term means to me, whereas some folks on the web have a tendency to give you the run-around in one form or another when you ask them for the meaning of the term, or, give you demeaning answers like "You don't know that term?? Get a clue!!", or ask you for your authentication credentials and Magic Decoder Ring.
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mc140
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Post by mc140 on Aug 24, 2023 22:27:22 GMT -6
Playing the rare team on our schedule tomorrow that has a run, pass and play action for every formation they run.
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