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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 2, 2023 6:07:25 GMT -6
This legislation reeks of "I don't like it, and others should be forced to not like it too." Yes- with a very healthy dose of” This would have been troublesome for me when I was a coach” mixed in. Objectively how do more open transfer policies and the ability of students to receive payment affect any US citizens (other than a handful of coaches) I would ask Senator Tuberville - what objectively is the “problem” other than students now exposing the professional sports organizations that he (and others before him) created. I might also ask him if student transfers would be more palatable if each student declared that they were so committed to their schools that would have to be carried out in pine boxes a few days before they transferred. Some of the proposed transparency regulations regarding the NIL may be sensible (from a pure civics point of view, I still don’t think it should involve legislation from the federal branch). But rhe 3 year requirement for transfers? How about instituting a similar model for coaches. Since 3 years represents 75% of a player’s eligibility- 50% if factoring in a red shirt) then lets say that coaches must stay umm just 40% of a 30 year career. So 12 years unless fired. |
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Post by irishdog on Aug 2, 2023 8:10:22 GMT -6
Initially I thought this thread would not only create interest, but also a lot of dialogue. Turns out the dialogue has gone where I personally have felt all along the topic would end up. A complete mess. If you wanted dialogue-discussion about the proposed NIL-Transfer Portal legislation you should have so titled the thread. Labeling it "Tommy Tuberville" opened the door for digression. Oh well...thought by labeling it that way it would get a lot of coaches' attention...but I digress. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 3, 2023 21:02:04 GMT -6
I couldn't hate more what's going on with college football but transfers and NIL aren't the main things that bother me. They're a symptom, not the problem. Tearing up conferences, destroying traditional rivalries, devaluing conference championships might make TV networks and some schools a lot of money but I doubt that it does much for the majority of real college football fans
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 3, 2023 21:26:44 GMT -6
I couldn't hate more what's going on with college football but transfers and NIL aren't the main things that bother me. They're a symptom, not the problem. Tearing up conferences, destroying traditional rivalries, devaluing conference championships might make TV networks and some schools a lot of money but I doubt that it does much for the majority of real college football fans Yes. Those things are 2 examples of the professional sports organizations that I keep referring to. UCLA's men's soccer team having to travel to New Brunswick NJ to play a match against Rutgers makes sense in what universe? Exactly how does USC's women's basketball team having to fly out to Penn State for a mid week conference game demonstrate the ideals "college" athletics. Unfortunately for those programs (and many others), the fact that their universities have those programs connected to the professional sports entities means they are pulled along for the ride. |
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 5, 2023 9:20:50 GMT -6
I couldn't hate more what's going on with college football but transfers and NIL aren't the main things that bother me. They're a symptom, not the problem. Tearing up conferences, destroying traditional rivalries, devaluing conference championships might make TV networks and some schools a lot of money but I doubt that it does much for the majority of real college football fans The original things that made CFB great are being replaced by things that make for better TV contract deals, which casuals like but fans hate. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 5, 2023 10:11:50 GMT -6
I couldn't hate more what's going on with college football but transfers and NIL aren't the main things that bother me. They're a symptom, not the problem. Tearing up conferences, destroying traditional rivalries, devaluing conference championships might make TV networks and some schools a lot of money but I doubt that it does much for the majority of real college football fans The original things that made CFB great are being replaced by things that make for better TV contract deals, which casuals like but fans hate. Yeah, but "we" demanded this. It was inevitable. First, the clamoring for a playoff. "HAVE TO HAVE A PLAYOFF" was step one in moving towards the NFL. Because of the inherent disparity in resources and the large amount of teams in college football, another step is occurring now- culling the herd. The issue is, this is not SUPPOSED to be a professional endeavor. It is SUPPOSED to be, kids going to colleges who play ball. From that view point, almost any sane person would agree that the conference realignments are absurd. But as Mariner42 points out above, since it is a professional endeavor on the part of some- then the ability to squeeze the most out of rights and tv contracts becomes paramount- and college athletics has fallen by the way side of the college football money making machine. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Aug 5, 2023 13:48:13 GMT -6
was it not for money when Bear was roaming the sidelines?
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 5, 2023 14:35:13 GMT -6
was it not for money when Bear was roaming the sidelines? They liked money, sure. But was it the same professional sports organization that it is now? Where a school like USC, UCLA , Orgeon etc says- "You know what is best for our University's ATHLETIC PROGRAM? Joining a conference over 2,200 miles away that don't really share the same mind set or values as our university because it will help our FOOTBALL TEAM increase revenue" I would not say so. |
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Post by CoachK on Aug 7, 2023 17:53:15 GMT -6
The original things that made CFB great are being replaced by things that make for better TV contract deals, which casuals like but fans hate. Yeah, but "we" demanded this. It was inevitable. First, the clamoring for a playoff. "HAVE TO HAVE A PLAYOFF" was step one in moving towards the NFL. Because of the inherent disparity in resources and the large amount of teams in college football, another step is occurring now- culling the herd. The issue is, this is not SUPPOSED to be a professional endeavor. It is SUPPOSED to be, kids going to colleges who play ball. From that view point, almost any sane person would agree that the conference realignments are absurd. But as Mariner42 points out above, since it is a professional endeavor on the part of some- then the ability to squeeze the most out of rights and tv contracts becomes paramount- and college athletics has fallen by the way side of the college football money making machine. It doesn't bother me that some schools treat their football programs as professional development, same as another school would treat their accounting program or whatever. Should the Baylors and Washington States be involved in that? No.
I wish the big timers would just form their super league already and leave the rest of us alone.
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