danimal23
Freshmen Member
Polk High, 4 tds in 1 game
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Post by danimal23 on Sept 20, 2007 8:55:26 GMT -6
does anyone run no huddle wing-t? I've seen to high schools do it the last 2 weeks, 1 in VA, 1 in MI. Neither team ever checked into another play. It just looked like they went no huddle for the sake of going no huddle.
I know that it is a different look than a normal wing t , but i just don't see what the advantage would be to not huddling if you don't audible at the line or take advantage of personnel mismatches like you can in a spread.
If anyone out there could explain this to me, I would appreciate it.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 20, 2007 9:09:52 GMT -6
They might not have audibled because they were getting the look they wanted. The no huddle has many advantages besides audibling. Didn't people audible before the no huddle?
First advantage, you set the pace.
Second, tire the defense.
Third, limit looks and stunting.
Fourth, do something different. Different isn't always good, but it can be.
Fifth, you can take the DC out of the game by not giving him time to sub, make adjustments, think, etc.
Sixth, check the play easily. (audible)
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Post by gacoach on Sept 20, 2007 13:12:35 GMT -6
We actually play a team here in Georgia that runs the no-huddle wing. We run it and actually huddle up.
Maybe they do it so that the fans (parents) think they're running the spread.
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Post by saintrad on Sept 20, 2007 22:12:24 GMT -6
i believe Nevada Union (Grass Vally CA) home of tothehouse and carson101 run a no huddle wing-t
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Post by coachjim on Sept 21, 2007 6:44:25 GMT -6
I would say they were either audibling in a way that was affective enough to fool at least you, if not the defense... or running triple option with the QB making the decision After the play starts, not just reading keys, but reading the final shift and the defensive attack. If they are coming hard at the FB, the QB simply fakes to him and goes to next option. Many different plays can make up triple option trios, so it also possible not to see that they are even running series of these. All my plays work in threes or fours... just will never find a QB who can run it himself, without me. Now wouldn't that be nice.  My ten year old can run this (just can't make all those quick decisions.) I might be wrong, would have to see it. Lastly, some plays are probably scripted for the HC to see their initial reactions, regardless the outcome of play. I could run no huddle, easily, but we are into controlling the time on O because of smll squad. Just need some wrist coaches, a head-set, fingers, or good memory through reppage. Less time or chance for the D to react at time of snap, would be my guess. Time gained = Advantage to speed, Advantage to reaction, Advantage to misdirection = all Wing-T fundamentals/concepts/strategy. |
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tedseay
Sophomore Member
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Post by tedseay on Sept 21, 2007 10:32:02 GMT -6
I could run no huddle, easily, but we are into controlling the time on O because of smll squad. Just need some wrist coaches, a head-set, fingers, or good memory through reppage. Jim: Don't forget, no-huddle allows you to control the clock better than anything. You can go warp speed, to be sure, but you can also set up on the LOS and look to the sideline for a play call while you let the play clock run down as low as you dare. The defense can't do much about it, either, as they have to be prepared for you to snap the ball as soon as you line up. For teams that are outmanned, it's another way to use the no huddle to work the clock to their advantage. |
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danimal23
Freshmen Member
Polk High, 4 tds in 1 game
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Post by danimal23 on Sept 21, 2007 11:20:24 GMT -6
You guys make excellent points. I am new here and like hearing opinions of experienced coaches from around the country.
But I still hate the no huddle wing t.
Love no huddle spread, love a good wing t, but hate them together.
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Post by coachjim on Sept 21, 2007 23:30:14 GMT -6
Hrm, didn't think about that Ted. The refs keep their own time in our league and we are constantly asking them how much is left which is annoying when you are trying to control it. For some reason they don't track it on the score board; maybe to manipulate it if a team is loosing by a lot, don't know. But I should bring my own stop watch and try it. Right now, the kids waste time, without being coached to do so because they get tired. So we control the ball without even trying to.  By the way, how about my response? I've come a long way since wondering what a waggle or pizza block was, thanks of course to you and lotsa studying/actually using it.  The hard work was definately worth it. The dividends are priceless. |
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The hard work was definately worth it. The dividends are priceless.