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Post by MICoach on Apr 20, 2023 11:20:05 GMT -6
My problem was I always had 30+ throwers of each gender. This is the worst. We only have like 25-30 throwers total, but it still creates a lot of problems as we only have one discus ring and one shot ring, and they're not quite close enough that I can effectively coach both areas at once. I did buy some foam circles online that kids can do non-throwing drills in but even then there ends up being a lot of kids standing around. Also there's obviously is a mix of kids ranging between zero experience and all of high school/middle school, which creates some pedagogical challenges...definitely frustrating at times. I do think if you can keep numbers high and retain kids over multiple years, HTC is definitely a pretty secure job. If you have a decent mix of skillsets in your coaches the biggest challenges are really the logistics and management more than the actual coaching. |
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Post by coachcb on Apr 20, 2023 11:34:03 GMT -6
video is huge and as we say never lies. My problem was I always had 30+ throwers of each gender. (60 not multiple genders  ) Hard to video them all.
It gets tough even when I only have 20 throwers. Each gets one or two recorded throws each day and then we break them down as we can. I typically have at least ten throwers in my room during lunch, going through their throws.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 20, 2023 12:22:09 GMT -6
Track coach has to be one of most secure gigs due to lack of people who want to coach it. Like, what would you have to do to get fired? Maybe just do what you want Golf coach. Most secure and easiest. You have about 8 dudes to coach, you get to go out on the course and play with them for free AND you get a stipend. I could never be a golf coach though because adult beverages are pretty much mandatory for me on the golf course!! |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 20, 2023 12:24:48 GMT -6
video is huge and as we say never lies. My problem was I always had 30+ throwers of each gender. (60 not multiple genders ) Hard to video them all. Same for football, even for reps in drills. Hard to go through routes on air in a fast tempo when you have 5 guys at each position but only 2 QB's. While this can be a good problem to have (better too many than not enough), at some point, you have to determine who the guys are who you really need the reps. |
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Post by hornetfan63 on Apr 20, 2023 13:26:23 GMT -6
Coach's Eye seems to be discontinued. What did it do?
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Post by teachcoach on Apr 20, 2023 13:32:00 GMT -6
Most cameras on new phones do what Coach's Eye did. It allowed you to slow it frame by frame and add lines to show throwing angles. It got pretty glitchy towards the end.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 20, 2023 14:43:13 GMT -6
Coach's Eye seems to be discontinued. What did it do?
It breaks down videos frame by frame. Some cell phone cameras do the same. I didn't even realize it was discontinued: I paid for it last year and it still works.
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Post by newhope on May 1, 2023 11:45:52 GMT -6
I've run into a new and unpleasant situation this year in track. I've taken over the throws for our high school track team and changed some things. I have all of the kids take one or two standing/power position throws during meets and then allow them to work into the rotation in the disc and glide in the shot.
I do this because I'm undoing a lot of bad habits: they get more distance on their standing/power position throws than their spin/glide because they're throwing properly from the standing/power position. They'll take more full throws at meets once their form is nailed down. Until then, they'll perform better at meets without mucking up their throws.
Two straight meets, two girls have set PRs from the standing position from the power position and under-thrown with a full throw. They're great kids and understand the process. Their parents are a different story. During both meets, a mom and a dad have been pulling the girls aside and telling them not to listen to me and take four full throws. The girls haven't been listening to me as they're seeing the results but it's upsetting them and p-ssing me off.
I've explain to both parents the method behind the madness during and after meets. And, I've asked them to stop undermining but they just keep doing it. Our HC has approached them and told them the same but, again, they pulled it again this weekend. The bosses can't ban them from meets as a)they're away and b) they're not being disruptive. But, I am ready to lose my mind over this crap.
I know it's harder in track than in football, but try restricting where your athletes go doing meets. I had a strict rule in football: if I see you over at the fence or I see you communicating with anyone in the stands, you sit. After I sat down one of best players on the team for going over to the fence, I didn't have to do it again. Keep them in one area, restrict access to the area, and maybe it will help. |
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Post by coachcb on May 1, 2023 12:27:06 GMT -6
I've run into a new and unpleasant situation this year in track. I've taken over the throws for our high school track team and changed some things. I have all of the kids take one or two standing/power position throws during meets and then allow them to work into the rotation in the disc and glide in the shot.
I do this because I'm undoing a lot of bad habits: they get more distance on their standing/power position throws than their spin/glide because they're throwing properly from the standing/power position. They'll take more full throws at meets once their form is nailed down. Until then, they'll perform better at meets without mucking up their throws.
Two straight meets, two girls have set PRs from the standing position from the power position and under-thrown with a full throw. They're great kids and understand the process. Their parents are a different story. During both meets, a mom and a dad have been pulling the girls aside and telling them not to listen to me and take four full throws. The girls haven't been listening to me as they're seeing the results but it's upsetting them and p-ssing me off.
I've explain to both parents the method behind the madness during and after meets. And, I've asked them to stop undermining but they just keep doing it. Our HC has approached them and told them the same but, again, they pulled it again this weekend. The bosses can't ban them from meets as a)they're away and b) they're not being disruptive. But, I am ready to lose my mind over this crap.
I know it's harder in track than in football, but try restricting where your athletes go doing meets. I had a strict rule in football: if I see you over at the fence or I see you communicating with anyone in the stands, you sit. After I sat down one of best players on the team for going over to the fence, I didn't have to do it again. Keep them in one area, restrict access to the area, and maybe it will help. Unfortunately, that's rarely possible in track as we're usually working an event. So, I can attempt to police them at the event I'm working but that's about it. And, that's difficult to do as we have a lot of things going on when we're working that event. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on May 1, 2023 14:19:25 GMT -6
I know it's harder in track than in football, but try restricting where your athletes go doing meets. I had a strict rule in football: if I see you over at the fence or I see you communicating with anyone in the stands, you sit. After I sat down one of best players on the team for going over to the fence, I didn't have to do it again. Keep them in one area, restrict access to the area, and maybe it will help. Unfortunately, that's rarely possible in track as we're usually working an event. So, I can attempt to police them at the event I'm working but that's about it. And, that's difficult to do as we have a lot of things going on when we're working that event. The joys of coaching track, the only meets that I don't work at are the regional and state meets. Not much supervision outside of my event area. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on May 2, 2023 6:00:47 GMT -6
The only thing more boring than track is field.
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Post by larrymoe on May 2, 2023 6:30:21 GMT -6
The only thing more boring than track is field. Field was the only redeeming portion of the sport for me. |
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Post by coachcb on May 2, 2023 6:44:44 GMT -6
Unfortunately, that's rarely possible in track as we're usually working an event. So, I can attempt to police them at the event I'm working but that's about it. And, that's difficult to do as we have a lot of things going on when we're working that event. The joys of coaching track, the only meets that I don't work at are the regional and state meets. Not much supervision outside of my event area.
Yup... This is also why I'm an exceptionally strict track and field coach. If a kid screws around in a big way at a track meet, there's a good chance they'll be off of the team. Any report of bad behavior is dealt with fairly harshly due to the lack of supervision.
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Post by CanyonCoach on May 10, 2023 20:47:48 GMT -6
The only thing more boring than track is field. The most exciting three events at track a few years ago were the Boys shot, Boys Jav. and Girls Jav. Boys shot in finals- kid throws a 60 footer and points at another kid and yells that this is Over- kid plays OT for Kansas now. The kid he points at steps up gets the crowd into it and throws 60'6 an takes the crown. Most electric atmosphere for shot i have been around. Girls jav. rubber tip- the lead changes 12 times in 3 flights- a girl with marginal tech. that also runs the 100 and set the state shot record throws 130's. They get to finals just as the boys shot ends and the entire crowd just wanders over to jav. a whole new energy. The shot winner starts doing to clap-- you know the clap-- his team mate throws 140 something to take the lead with one thrower left....dead silence. When she doesn't beat the throw. Team mates celebrate!!! Boys jav. the shot put winner gets the clap going again and throws a pr by 10 feet ish and absolutely intimidates the rest of the field. One kid was just watching the dude and almost missed his turn to throw...yelled his name multiple times. he got the second loudest round of applause when he threw, had a solid PR and decent throw.mid 160's..sophomore kid with a epic mullet. Probably one of the best track days a throws coach could ask for. |
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