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Post by airman on Oct 25, 2007 18:18:33 GMT -6
I have been watching all season this new trend and I have to laugh at it and I think it is stupid.
I am standing next to a guy Tuesday night at a playoff game and I look on the pull over he has. it lists all his kids. future panthers, 2020,2022.
I have seen this on all sorts of jackets , pullovers, sweatshirts. I remember when it was letter jackets that had your class number on it. I guess any thing goes now for little johnny and jenny.
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Post by dubber on Oct 25, 2007 20:18:13 GMT -6
yea...nothing like being overly proud of little jimmy and johnny...cause you know...they are special. I don't care how special little johnny is.......if he can't take on a combo block as a 3 tech. he's worthless to me........ ........that sums it up for me
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Post by brophy on Oct 25, 2007 20:36:45 GMT -6
I guess I'm not getting the picture here.
I don't see what is wrong with that. Does it say "2020 leading district Rusher" or "2017 Defensive player of the year"?
Just being associated with the school is harmless....where is the harm in the pullover?
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Post by phantom on Oct 25, 2007 20:44:29 GMT -6
I guess I'm not getting the picture here. I don't see what is wrong with that. Does it say "2020 leading district Rusher" or "2017 Defensive player of the year"? Just being associated with the school is harmless....where is the harm in the pullover? Yeah, that's how I see it. I can't see what's wrong with a parent wanting his kids to play for you.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Oct 25, 2007 21:18:33 GMT -6
I can't see what's wrong with a parent wanting his kids to play for you. I agree. Isn't that what we are hoping the parents do...WANT their kids to play for you.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 25, 2007 21:39:56 GMT -6
If it was a little hoody for the kid, I would be fine with it. The parent wearing a shirt with kids names on it...eh its kind of weird. But I guess I can see it being a good present for one of those diehard community fans.
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Post by brophy on Oct 25, 2007 22:08:20 GMT -6
how is it any different than saying
State College Alum
Dad 1985 John Jr 2001 John II 2011 John III 2020
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just like saying, hey, we support "Brand X" as a family.
no? Maybe I'm seeing this wrong, eh
Rather than this being a dogpile on parents thread, take a step back and see life through the eyes as a parent for your OWN kids.
Parents only become a problem when they put THEIR needs ahead of everyone else's. Other than that, they are just being human.
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Post by Yash on Oct 26, 2007 5:53:26 GMT -6
Now that we have no student left behind, you have to put an * next to the date and have a fine print that reads, these dates subject to change.
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2007 7:24:08 GMT -6
I really fail to see how wearing apparrel supporting your kids is bad. Now, I wouldn't do it, but how is it any different than someone holding up a sign saying "Go #30!!" Don't parents have a right to cheer for their kids? Parents, in themselves aren't bad, they should be A PART of the program. Now, being obnoxious and a bad sport is intollerable if they are a parent or just a "fan". This game is just a delivery method for fostering deep relationships and impacting people's lives. If you do not embrace parents of your athletes, you will live a very lonely existence. Now, you can't 'win' them all, but drawing a line in the sand to alienate them (because you don't want to invest the effort to establish a connection with them) isn't a way to build a healthy program. Cheer, watch the game, and enjoy. No need to get bent out of shape for what is happening (or what you think is happening) on the field. IMO. Wearing a sweater, jersey, T-shirt for your son is no more gayer than painting your face for a game. We had 2 parents that wore sweatshirts on friday night that read "Derrick ________'s Mom" and her husband wore one that read "Derrick ______'s Stepdad". Derrick was hands down the worst lineman we had, he was 6'6" 285...never came to weights and could only bench 185..twice. Big, slow and lazy and eventually got kicked off the team. ?? so what? So Derricks parents should be ashamed of their son because of his physical attributes?? Or is there something more to it? Parents that create turds with over-inflated support of their abilities (you should go DI, you should be starting - everyone is against you, this team is a loser) are the real problem - that go beyond T-shirts. The esteeming of sports as a way to quantify your worth as a human being is what is wrong (with society) in general. Some people are grounded in reality, some aren't. Hero-worship and coach-hating exist........gee, just look at the Osborne thread. I know my parents were real big supporters of my nephew growing up in youth sports / HS football. The kid was a lineman, so naturally, he wouldn't be getting any props from anyone else. I think my dad & mom wore some sweaters to the games that had his name on it. But my folks were probably this kids' biggest critics (and never any of the coaching staffs, or teams) Now, I don't know if that is 'okay' or not to do that, but it is what it is...grandparents supporting their grandkids. When I was a kid in the 70's, for Christmas, my folks bought my brother and I football uniforms and equipment that looked like the HS program we would be going to.......well, DO ANY OF YOU GUYS RECRUIT for your program? (lol) .......you will understand the impact.
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Post by barnone on Oct 26, 2007 7:37:42 GMT -6
Shoot I wish we had that kind of support. Having parents shits say "Falcon 2010" whatever. That would be great. Right now I don"t even want to say on here what our parents shirts would say.
I think it shows several things. 1. Shows great community support 2. Shows great pride in your program 3. It acctually shows good parent support and that they support what you are doing.
Now on something else, I have a 14 month old and my wife wanted to make a shirt that said "I love the coach" or something to that regards, which would have been cool with me if I was anywhere else, but as it is I have to tell my wife if it starts getting bad go to the other teams stands and my son doesn't come to the games at all this year.
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Post by mitch on Oct 26, 2007 7:45:48 GMT -6
Parents supporting their kids, being involved in their lives? What are we complaining about here? I would personally love to see more parents take an interest in what their kids are doing.
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Post by CoachJ on Oct 26, 2007 7:51:32 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with it at all. I hope to continue a program that people want to play for.
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2007 8:05:35 GMT -6
be lucky you have parents coming to the game.......some programs don't have that.
Parents are a commodity you have to value.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 26, 2007 9:28:51 GMT -6
I agree that the gear with "Billy Bob's Step Daddy" or "2017 All State" shirts for the kids are a little ridiculous...but it's better than "Muck Fichigan" or "Fire Coach J"
I love the support. That's what good parents are supposed to do. They're gonna act crazy for their kid. They're gonna yell and scream for their "baby" when he makes a tackle, or ring a cowbell everytime we gain a yard. They're going to be obnoxious- at least we know they care! I will never have problems with parents support, but I do have issues with negative comments from the poor man's John Madden up in the stands. Those guys just embarrass themselves, their kids, and the rest of the fans.
I love the idea of little kids wearing the hoodies with "Future Eagle" on the backs. I would be thrilled to know the community is excited about our team and they want their kids to play for me.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 26, 2007 10:45:50 GMT -6
dc---i have to disagree with you here on this one. Have NO idea why anyone would be bothered because parents changed their outfits.
and I agree with brophy, the parents that are pains are the "anti" program parents. I don't care of a parent is trying to draw attention or talks (correctly or incorrectly) about how great their son/daughter is AS LONG as they aren't talking negatively about others.
The parents of the best kids, and worst kids...usually are pretty good. It is the parents of the middle of the road kids that you have to watch out for....Dad's usually living vicariously...they probably were at one point the big fish in a very small pond (little league) and now they are just good solid players without a clue.
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Post by eickst on Oct 26, 2007 10:58:07 GMT -6
How do you have time to pay attention to what happens in the stands?
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2007 11:27:01 GMT -6
How do you have time to pay attention to what happens in the stands? he was observing parents of another program, NOT during his games.
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Post by airman on Oct 26, 2007 11:42:15 GMT -6
menomonie high school in wisconsin, a football powerhouse(5 state championships and 2 runner ups in last 18 years) has sweatshirts for parents.
It says, proud parent of menomonie h.s. football player on the front and on the back is the name and number of the kid. they have ones for girlsfirends as well.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 26, 2007 12:04:05 GMT -6
At my last job, the mother's, if they actually went to a game, wore low cut shirts to show off the tattoo on their left breast along with their low ride jeans to show off the tattoo on their lower back.
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Post by knighter on Oct 26, 2007 12:19:17 GMT -6
hey poweri can i get a job there? lol
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Post by spreadbone on Oct 26, 2007 12:25:10 GMT -6
Wow, a kid can't take on a combo block as a 3 tech and hes worthless, could job coach, sounds like a real self esteem builder.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 26, 2007 21:06:40 GMT -6
hey poweri can i get a job there? lol If you like em' large and in charge. ;D
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Post by wildcat on Oct 27, 2007 6:12:16 GMT -6
I'm a little surprised here...I would think that football coaches would be thrilled that junior high kids would be excited about being a future "Tiger" or "Pirate" or "Viking" or whatever.
I think those shirts are pretty cool!
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Post by cmow5 on Oct 27, 2007 12:50:52 GMT -6
I would love to have that kind of support from the parents. I know we are at the middle school level, but every home game we had the visitors had more people in the stands then we did. Also, my fiance came to every game and she said there were more parents there for the cheerleaders then for the football team. I thought it was because we only had about 15 guys on the team, but our last game the opposing team had couple less guys and they still had more fans.
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Post by tye2021 on Oct 27, 2007 14:54:19 GMT -6
Ask yourselves this.......would you rather see parents in the stands supporting their kids with shirts that have their kids name ont it?
Or, would you rather look-up into the stands and not see parents there at all to support there kids?
Seriously, who cares as long as they are not acting like an a--!
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