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Post by bluedevil4 on Dec 13, 2022 8:13:40 GMT -6
ESPN just announced around 9:05 this morning, Mike Leach has passed.
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Post by blb on Dec 13, 2022 8:17:33 GMT -6
ESPN just announced around 9:05 this morning, Mike Leach has passed. Mods, feel free to take down if not appropriate or should be kept to the last thread. Very sad, 61 way too young. He made CFB even more interesting.
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Post by tripsclosed on Dec 13, 2022 8:30:11 GMT -6
ESPN just announced around 9:05 this morning, Mike Leach has passed. Mods, feel free to take down if not appropriate or should be kept to the last thread. He has sailed on to Stranger Tides. RIP, Pirate
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2022 8:31:55 GMT -6
Like a lot of coaches who’ve come into it over the past 20 years, Leach was a personal hero of mine. This one hurts.
RIP.
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Post by moose18 on Dec 13, 2022 8:36:39 GMT -6
Met Coach Leach one time at a clinic. I had a dip in my mouth (I was a dumb young coach). He noticed and asked if he could have one, of course I said yes. I gave him my can, he took a small pinch and put it in his mouth, then closed the can and put it in his back pocket and said thanks! I didn't have the courage to ask for it back. RIP Coach
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Post by aznando on Dec 13, 2022 9:25:56 GMT -6
A true pioneer in our game. He was funny as hell too. RIP Pirate! Aznando
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Post by blb on Dec 13, 2022 10:15:49 GMT -6
A true pioneer in our game. He was funny as hell too. RIP Pirate! The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2022 10:27:40 GMT -6
A true pioneer in our game. He was funny as hell too. RIP Pirate! The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous. I love Lincoln Riley’s story about working at his desk in the coaches’ office when Mike Leach took a call. Leach spoke to the person on the phone for an hour, then the call dropped. Leach called the guy back, apologized for the dropped call, and then continued talking to him for another 30 minutes. After he hung up, Riley, asked who that was calling, thinking it was someone very important. Leach’s response: “Oh, it was a wrong number.”
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Post by bluedevil4 on Dec 13, 2022 11:57:14 GMT -6
A true pioneer in our game. He was funny as hell too. RIP Pirate! The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous. A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do.
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Post by coachroe on Dec 13, 2022 12:03:30 GMT -6
I am both saddened we lost a good one today and thankful we all got to live in a world with Mike Leach in it, if only for a little while.
Much respect to the pirate. Keep swinging your sword.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2022 12:56:59 GMT -6
The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous. A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do. I always suspected that Leach was on the spectrum, too, due to those "quirks." It's good to know I wasn't the only one. While everyone talks about him being such a funny, oddball character, I never felt like any of it was a bit he was doing to get laughs, even though a lot of people thought they were "deadpan jokes."
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Post by tog on Dec 13, 2022 13:28:08 GMT -6
A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do. I always suspected that Leach was on the spectrum, too, due to those "quirks." It's good to know I wasn't the only one. While everyone talks about him being such a funny, oddball character, I never felt like any of it was a bit he was doing to get laughs, even though a lot of people thought they were "deadpan jokes." as someone else with at least a big toe in the spectrum it's no wonder I enjoyed spending time with him just a good dude
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Post by tripsclosed on Dec 13, 2022 13:58:54 GMT -6
I think the most exceptional thing about him is how many different things he was interested in and fascinated by. One of his last Twitter posts was a map showing US cities and states at the same latitude as european cities and regions. That's fkn awesome.
As much as he loved football and was so good at it, I think it was mostly a hobby for him in a menagerie of interests. If he had the singular focus and obessession on football of a Saban, God himself would have had to save the Big 12. Lol
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Post by joelee on Dec 13, 2022 14:27:33 GMT -6
I can't say this about many people but my life would be very different without him. I lived in Lexington when he and Mumme got hired to Kentucky. His free-thinking really and irreverence affected me. Not to mention I gravitated to their philosophy and have run the air-raid passing game since 2003. The air raid term was coined by him in Lexington by the way. RIP coach.
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Post by Defcord on Dec 13, 2022 16:09:41 GMT -6
People talk about how Coach Leach is an offensive genius or how funny he is and both are true. But he could also coach his asss off.
He’s the first guy I heard say “you Coach it or allow it” and it changed the way I coach. Took me from a young coach who thought it was always the kids’ fault to a more mature coach who understands that the coach has to take accountability for how his players play.
The other thing coaching wise he said that had a huge impact on me was “if you put something in, what are you going to take out.” This has a huge impact on the way I coached as well.
This clip probably isn’t as famous some of his other interviews but the interviewer asks him at the 2:46 mark about a quote he’s said before “people are capable of working harder than they think they can.” He goes on to explain his view. I think it shows just how complete a coach he is. Yes he’s certainly an offensive mastermind but I’d wager to say he’s also an excellent motivator.
I’ve just enjoyed Coach Leach so much over my coaching career. I’ve got group chats from former colleagues at schools I’ve been to in the past and we all have shared Coach Leach quotes over the years. It’s just something that’s kept us connected.
The guy was just such a breath of fresh air in the coaching realms.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 13, 2022 19:42:52 GMT -6
The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous. A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do. Most exceptional geniuses are marked as being 'on the spectrum'/weird/eccentric/odd-ball/etc.... because average/normal individuals can't comprehend the depth and width of those who are truly gifted. And it is reciprocal b/c often the true geniuses can't comprehend how the average mind/person can even function the way it does. And there are very few people in between the two that give a chyt enough to try and bridge the gap between the extremes. Often the 99+% hide their talent in some way; playing stupid (is the obvious), talking to themselves instead of others, delving into random/odd ball hobbies/interests/theories, being introverted, etc.... because they know from an early age how out of main stream they are. ... and most human being want to socialize with other human beings/fit in. That is their mental conflict. These are often very lonely people. So to keep their mind active/entertained they develop this kind of side personality. And the main stream today has targeted that as 'on the spectrum'. I am in no way belittling any condition or attribute. I am simply fostering thought about the two traits that Leach has been attributed in this thread: genius and 'on the spectrum'.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 13, 2022 19:50:32 GMT -6
A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do. Most exceptional geniuses are marked as being 'on the spectrum'/weird/eccentric/odd-ball/etc.... because average/normal individuals can't comprehend the depth and width of those who are truly gifted. And it is reciprocal b/c often the true geniuses can't comprehend how the average mind/person can even function the way it does. And there are very few people in between the two that give a chyt enough to try and bridge the gap between the extremes. Often the 99+% hide their talent in some way; playing stupid (is the obvious), talking to themselves instead of others, delving into random/odd ball hobbies/interests/theories, being introverted, etc.... because they know from an early age how out of main stream they are. ... and most human being want to socialize with other human beings/fit in. That is their mental conflict. These are often very lonely people. So to keep their mind active/entertained they develop this kind of side personality. And the main stream today has targeted that as 'on the spectrum'. I am in no way belittling any condition or attribute. I am simply fostering thought about the two traits that Leach has been attributed in this thread: genius and 'on the spectrum'. I fully identify with and like this post. I'mnot a genius, but I certainly don't understand most people. I wasn't a devotee of Coach Leach's offensive philosophy, in fact quite the opposite, but, I always loved the guy. He seemed to be one of the few authentic guys in a profession of fakes only interested in "selling the brand". I usually don't get invested in celebrity level deaths, but this one hurts.
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Post by chi5hi on Dec 13, 2022 19:55:28 GMT -6
Rest in Peace, coach! And thank you.
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Post by blb on Dec 14, 2022 7:38:22 GMT -6
I don't know what Leach's situation was other than dying at a relatively young age, but let this serve as a reminder to take care of ourselves, if not for us then our loved ones.
BMI, blood pressure, Cholesterol etc. Eat smart, exercise regularly (even In-Season), get enough sleep. Yearly check-ups.
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Post by tripsclosed on Dec 14, 2022 8:40:38 GMT -6
I don't know what Leach's situation was other than dying at a relatively young age, but let this serve as a reminder to take care of ourselves, if not for us then our loved ones. BMI, blood pressure, Cholesterol etc. Eat smart, exercise regularly (even In-Season), get enough sleep. Yearly check-ups. Yes! Last night, I started to do one of my saltines with Nutella binges where I eat waaaaaaay more than I should, I thought of Coach and cut it short. Seriously. There's usually some kind of silver lining to be found in a tragedy, maybe this is it in this situation. 3 out of my 4 grandparents had type 2 diabetes, need all the help I can get. Dont need to make it harder on myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 9:14:18 GMT -6
A few years ago, I posed a question on the College Football Subreddit to its readers on the autism spectrum (that subreddit has over 1.5 million readers). I asked because some of his quirks, particularly his body language in public/social settings seemed familiar to some of my own friends' behaviors on the spectrum. I asked if they ever wondered if Leach could be, and the thread got a lot of responses from that population stating with enthusiasm that he was definitely "one of us," lol. Obviously we can't say that he was without any official diagnosis, but there's definitely "claims" by members of that community that he was. I remember one comment in particular stated that everyone thinks Leach was just a character and trying to be funny with his stories and tangents, then countered that he was just verbally processing through a situation just like many on the spectrum do. Most exceptional geniuses are marked as being 'on the spectrum'/weird/eccentric/odd-ball/etc.... because average/normal individuals can't comprehend the depth and width of those who are truly gifted. And it is reciprocal b/c often the true geniuses can't comprehend how the average mind/person can even function the way it does. And there are very few people in between the two that give a chyt enough to try and bridge the gap between the extremes. Often the 99+% hide their talent in some way; playing stupid (is the obvious), talking to themselves instead of others, delving into random/odd ball hobbies/interests/theories, being introverted, etc.... because they know from an early age how out of main stream they are. ... and most human being want to socialize with other human beings/fit in. That is their mental conflict. These are often very lonely people. So to keep their mind active/entertained they develop this kind of side personality. And the main stream today has targeted that as 'on the spectrum'. I am in no way belittling any condition or attribute. I am simply fostering thought about the two traits that Leach has been attributed in this thread: genius and 'on the spectrum'. I do/used to do pretty much every single thing you mentioned and I've never been diagnosed with autism (or accused of being an exceptional genius), though it was discussed when I was in MS. I'm just saying that after working with a lot of people who have those clinical diagnoses, I saw a lot of little traits with Leach's voice, eye contact, and facial expression that made me suspect he may have been "spectrumy." This is not meant as a knock on Leach in any way, nor is it meant as any kind of armchair diagnosis. It just means his mind seemed to work in a different way from most people, which is what made him so great. It was interesting to me how often Leach spoke of friendships and conversations he had with people outside of football: academics, engineers, computer programmers, etc. Those professions are also known to attract people with autistic traits for various reasons. Leach, himself, even had a law degree and, had he been "sensible," probably would have pursued that career path. Football culture tended to be pretty harsh on Leach, I felt. He didn't "fit the mold" and that cost him a lot of jobs and made a lot of "conventional" coaches and administrators suspicious of him, not to mention how it frustrated fans who thought they were smarter than him, but to me that all made him even more of an inspiration Personally, he was the ONE P5 coach I actually wanted to meet and I'm very sad I never got to make it to MSU for a clinic and a chance to shake his hand while he was there.
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Post by veerwego on Dec 14, 2022 10:01:04 GMT -6
If it is a spectrum, we are all on it.
One of the Greats. Made football fun and interesting.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 14, 2022 10:04:14 GMT -6
If it is a spectrum, we are all on it. Exactly.
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Post by CoachK on Dec 14, 2022 15:10:12 GMT -6
The thing is I don't think most of the time he was trying to be funny. He was telling the truth about whatever the subject was as he saw it, and because he was wired differently, people thought it was humorous. I love Lincoln Riley’s story about working at his desk in the coaches’ office when Mike Leach took a call. Leach spoke to the person on the phone for an hour, then the call dropped. Leach called the guy back, apologized for the dropped call, and then continued talking to him for another 30 minutes. After he hung up, Riley, asked who that was calling, thinking it was someone very important. Leach’s response: “Oh, it was a wrong number.” I've heard so many of these stories over the years that I began to think the reason he limited his offense to so few concepts was so he'd have more time to {censored} with people. RIP to an absolute legend.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 14, 2022 19:44:56 GMT -6
I love Lincoln Riley’s story about working at his desk in the coaches’ office when Mike Leach took a call. Leach spoke to the person on the phone for an hour, then the call dropped. Leach called the guy back, apologized for the dropped call, and then continued talking to him for another 30 minutes. After he hung up, Riley, asked who that was calling, thinking it was someone very important. Leach’s response: “Oh, it was a wrong number.” I've heard so many of these stories over the years that I began to think the reason he limited his offense to so few concepts was so he'd have more time to {censored} with people. RIP to an absolute legend. Interesting take. I'm no offensive coach, though my defensive tenants merge with the Air Raid simplicity.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Dec 15, 2022 14:22:18 GMT -6
RIP Leach. It really is a shame that Craig James used his platform on ESPN to bring down Leach at Tech.
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Post by blb on Dec 15, 2022 14:25:27 GMT -6
RIP Leach. It really is a shame that Craig James used his platform on ESPN to bring down Leach at Tech. I suspect James will not be mourned anywhere near as much as Leach is.
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Post by tripsclosed on Dec 15, 2022 14:38:27 GMT -6
RIP Leach. It really is a shame that Craig James used his platform on ESPN to bring down Leach at Tech. Yup. One can only imagine where TT would be today had he been able to keep building the program...
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Post by fantom on Dec 15, 2022 15:40:30 GMT -6
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