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Post by tog on Feb 14, 2006 15:46:53 GMT -6
If your oc or dc is on the field, who is up in the box?
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Post by fish on Feb 14, 2006 16:32:03 GMT -6
oc is in the box, dc on the field. we have one staff member, the dline coach this year, that is connected to the dc. he helps with formations and substitutions by the opponent. also our sign stealer against teams that signal in the play.
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Post by bluboy on Feb 14, 2006 16:34:21 GMT -6
I am one of the defensive staff, and I am in the box during games. The way our communication system is set up, I talk only to the DC; unless the head coach wants to talk with me. I have a copy of the defensive game plan. Once the ball is spotted, I give the DC the down, distance, yardline and hash. I also tell him what personnel is coming onto the field. I check our alignments vs the formation, as well as try to pick up any glaring weaknesses once the ball is snapped.
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Post by brophy on Feb 15, 2006 7:06:13 GMT -6
even better ......WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU WANT FROM THE BOX? (I've found not everyone is 'cool' on this subject)
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Post by knighter on Feb 15, 2006 7:10:02 GMT -6
i have a sheet somewhere brophy, i will email it to you....remember class a football in iowa means i may not have a "true" coach in the box, so i have a very simple sheet of questions/reminders of whaty i am looking for...i'll see if i can find it (have changed computers more than I have changed underwear!)
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Post by information on Feb 15, 2006 7:21:24 GMT -6
If the OC is not in the box....I like to have the assistant OL coach up there to help the OL and the OC....if that situation is not available the guy that knows our sceme the second best after the OC
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Post by coachdawhip on Feb 15, 2006 7:25:03 GMT -6
We sent me, into the box last year I was Varisty OLB Coach and JV HC, I know both the O and D. This year the OC may join me. You need to have someone or people who know both sides of the ball.
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Post by brophy on Feb 15, 2006 7:25:22 GMT -6
i have a sheet somewhere brophy, i will email it to you....remember class a football in iowa means i may not have a "true" coach in the box, so i have a very simple sheet of questions/reminders of whaty i am looking for...i'll see if i can find it (have changed computers more than I have changed underwear!) thanks....I've got my own sheet for my guys, too.....which is why I usually spend most games up there. I guess, I learned the hard way that some people use the time in the box as an opportunity to be 'a fan' and let me know that a "run or pass" is taking place on the field.....(thank a lot, genius  ) I just find it doesn't help having guys in the box that don't know how to align the team / or their responsibilities..... here are my sheets; savefile.com/files/3990792savefile.com/files/1021317 |
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Post by realdawg on Feb 15, 2006 8:40:18 GMT -6
Our OC is in the box, and he watches coverages and overall defense. As the OL coach, if wish we could get another set of eyes up there with him to help me with the adjustments. Sometimes it hard to see everything, and our kids arent very perceptive. On the defensive side our DC is on the field, w/ his right hand man up in the box. It would be nice if each side of the ball had 2 eyes up top, but our HC says we cant afford the extra $$$$$ for headphone connections.
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Post by nickeldef on Feb 15, 2006 12:25:10 GMT -6
We set up this way:
Off- Box: OC and Oline coach 1
Field: HC, WR, Oline coach 2
Def: Box: Secondary/Safeties(me), HS Secondary Coach
Field: DC, DL, Corners
We wil also use some of our HS coaches in the box to do stats and so forth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2006 13:34:01 GMT -6
We only had two coaches in the box--me (I coach sophomore offensive and defensive line) and the sophomore head coach who is the sophomore offensive backfield coach. We were given assignments of what to watch for from both the OC and DC, but the DC is a very emotional guy who normally had his headset ripped off, and it stayed off, after the first drive or two. It worked out well for us. In fact, during one late season game, I had to be on the field and I never realized how chaotic a sideline was during a game!!
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Post by realdawg on Feb 15, 2006 13:50:04 GMT -6
I just wish our OC would watch the front more, or we could get someone else who could. He has so many responsibilities, and things on his mind, he rarely watches the front, and sometimes its hard for me to see across the field or at an angle. Our kids can tell us if they are in a 3 or 2i or what front the defense is in, but when you ask about stunts or blitzes each of them swear the defense is sending the house! I just wish we had another OL coach who could be up top to help chart things like that, but since we coach both JV and V, there isnt even a JV coach to send up.
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Post by tigerone on Feb 15, 2006 15:08:10 GMT -6
Brophy,
As a HC/Off. Coord I want the following info from upstairs: Down and distance, ball spot, and who did not carry out their assignment blocking on the last play. Any info helpful against the defense who is giving us something I am not seeing. Play recommendations when I ask for them. All info to be given in a calm professional manner, not a bunch of screaming, etc. I want the DC downstairs and his best assistant upstairs, just as I want my best off. asst. upstairs too. Continuity on the staff with experience is the way to get things done on game night. Just my way as always.
Coach Easton
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Post by Coach Huey on Feb 15, 2006 17:17:10 GMT -6
don't forget about having someone always responsible for relaying WHO MADE THE TACKLE. we make sure that we have the "tackle chart" properly covered every game. that little tidbit can often tell you what play to call next as much as anything else.
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Post by dial51 on Feb 15, 2006 20:06:25 GMT -6
I agree Huey, our head coach is always asking who made the tackle. If you know this 'little' piece of information it can really help the OC in making future calls.
I am the OC and I am on the field, I have our WR coach in the box talking to me. The most important info that I want is the down and distance and yard line NOW! This will allow me to assess the situation and make a logical play call. If the box sees an obvious weakness in the defense, then tell me, otherwise wait until we are playing D to make suggestions.
When our defense is on the field, I like to talk with the box to get his view on the flow of the offense, this is the time I want suggestions, brainstorm, reminders of the gameplan. I also love to talk to our OL (the ones that do not play Def) and our QB to find out they see on the field.
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Post by lovetocoach on Feb 17, 2006 7:45:07 GMT -6
I am an OC and I used to think that I wanted to be on the sideline, but after spending a year in the box, it is so much easier up there. You can concentrate better, you can see things so much better. I don't know how I did it before down on the field. I talk to the OL coach and receivers coach on the field; they signal the plays in. If I want to talk to a player, the WR coach puts his phones on him. It's nice and warm and dry and they usually have great food!
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Post by gpaul62 on Feb 17, 2006 8:36:09 GMT -6
Last season I (DC) decided to go up in the box. It was the best thing I could have done. It allowed me to see everything and it allowed my assts. to coach up their guys. I would give the defensive call to my connected asst. on the field and then he would signal it in.
Every week I used a different asst. to signal in the calls. It really help the assts. learn the entire defense and the signals too. We had so much success this way, the offensive staff will use the same menthod this up coming season.
GP
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Post by gamedog on Feb 19, 2006 14:53:45 GMT -6
OC and DC are on the field.
RB coach and me(co-oline) are in the box for offense. We also have a JrHigh coach that will assist us in anything that we need help in doing in the box and on the sidelines. We let them help a lot. Makes 'em feel a big part of our success. The RB coach takes secondary and I take the front away from the sidelines. RB coach keeps a chart on types of fronts and coverages. Oline coach on the field takes the front closest to our sideline. I keep a tackle chart(who makes the tackle) and also watch the oline from center away from our sidelines. I also am the signal stealer when people signal.
As soon as we come off the field I will communicate with the oline coach on the field the information that I have been watching. I also tell him after every play, but sometimes there is not time for him to listen.
At halftime we will meet with the OC and other coaches to talk about breakdowns in blocking and what the other team is doing on defense and some suggestions that we may have.
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Post by runtheball86 on Feb 19, 2006 15:26:11 GMT -6
Coaching Staff = 4 plus 2 part time volunteers
Breakdown ... 1. Program Head Coach ... 2. Assistant Head Coach, 3. Assistant Coach/JV Head Coach, 4. Assistant Coach 5. Volunteer 6. Volunteer
Gameday Locations = Coaches' Box On the Field ... Head and Assistant Head Coach ... Press Box ... Assistant/JV Head (spotting for offense and defense) ... Vartious Sideline Duties ... Assistant Coach and Volunteers
Head, Assistant Head and Asistant/JV Head are all on the phones together.
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Post by coachjaxson on Feb 19, 2006 15:33:24 GMT -6
I'm the head coach, and I am in the box. We check a lot of things at the line, and I can't call it from the field. After every game, I was frustrated because all of the things I missed. It helped us out a great deal. As far as handling the sideline, I think my staff did a great job with that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2006 17:01:40 GMT -6
I'm the DC on the field. I have a very good assistant upstairs who reads my tendencies to me. I have a cheat sheet with all calls vs. tendencies, but as a general rule I work to have that sheet memorized. I have an assistant on the field scout me and I get my tendency breakdown at halftime.
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Post by mugz on Feb 19, 2006 20:11:27 GMT -6
Both our OC and DC are on the field. They both used to be upstairs but we have had some communication problems as well as our headsets have gone down around the forth quarter or in bad weather. We now have 3 guys upstairs. 1.) The quaterbacks coach (who works closely with the OC) is on the headsets with the OC. 2.) Our D-backs coach is on the headsets with our DC. 3.) Im up their charting our offenseive plays Im also watching our offensive and defensive linemen. ( Being asst. line coach.) Sometimes we will have a Freshman coach uptheir with us.
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Post by CoachBrink on Feb 19, 2006 21:32:34 GMT -6
I AM THE DC AND LIKE "IRISHBLITZER" WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE BOX READ THE TENDENCIES TO ME. IT HAS HELPED TO KEEP ME FOCUSED, BEFORE I WOULD GET A LITTLE TO EXCITED AND WANT TO BRING THE HOUSE ON EVERY DOWN.
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Post by brophy on Feb 20, 2006 13:37:46 GMT -6
I'm the head coach, and I am in the box. We check a lot of things at the line, and I can't call it from the field. After every game, I was frustrated because all of the things I missed. It helped us out a great deal. As far as handling the sideline, I think my staff did a great job with that. jax, I admire you for being a 'maverick' here..... that would be the single most important reason for a HC to go up there.... |
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Post by spreadjet31 on Feb 20, 2006 16:14:00 GMT -6
I'm an OC and I'm in the box with a "volunteer" aka a young guy who is always around practice and is basically a coach except he isn't recognized. Anyway, he charts offense and defense (he's really good), and he even makes suggestions that make the OC look good from time to time. I of course grudgingly give him credit on those occasions.
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