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Post by wildcat on Jul 29, 2007 6:17:51 GMT -6
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Post by airraider on Jul 29, 2007 6:59:50 GMT -6
This past school year we had 3 coaches in our general area get busted for this sort of thing. Two from the same school.
One was a football coach who was having a relationship with a 15 year old girl.
One was the head softball coach who had been having relationships with his players for the better part of 15 years.
And another just down the road from my old school by a young coach who I had several classes with in college. He was busted text messaging a young girl who played softball for the team he assisted with. Some of the text messages included nude pictures of himself.
We had a female teacher at our school a few years back. She was the girls track coach. She has had sex with several students right after they graduated. She admitted to me that she has never done anything other than kiss a kid who was a current student.
She is now married to one of my best friends after they both cheated with one another on their then spouses..
Temptation is a DANGEROUS thing.. you MUST always be stronger than that.
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Post by coachm on Jul 29, 2007 7:17:04 GMT -6
Uh, let me guess, they didn't know there's a law? /sarcasm off I'm locking up my soon to be high school age daughter (and son for that matter)... sheesh!
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Post by airraider on Jul 29, 2007 8:01:46 GMT -6
I guess they assume that there is no way these kids would come forward because they too would have something to lose.. thats the only way I can figure they think that they cannot get caught..
Thats like these to catch a predator episodes on Dateline NBC.. How igorant can these people be?? They are catching them left and right.. which I am glad of.. but at what point do these guys get the clue??
Imagine how much this was going on successfully before all the heat was on..
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Post by justwingit on Jul 29, 2007 8:24:24 GMT -6
its called thinking with the wrong head... --- surprised it doesn't happen more...
wonder where ths was taking place that the cops were patrolling it -- drug house -- prostitutes? doesn't sound like a place where a teacher should be hanging out.
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Post by ajreaper on Jul 29, 2007 12:13:24 GMT -6
Is there any teenager worth your reputation, career, and freedom? It's sheer stupidity and nothing more.
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Post by airman on Jul 29, 2007 12:19:54 GMT -6
years ago this would not be a issue. I know a guy, he was 22 and she was 17. they met when he was a teacher/coach and she was a jr students. they married. he went away for a year and then came back. they have been married for along time.
this was 25 years ago. her parents were fine with it and everything.
it does get kind of weird though when guys in there 30to 50s are hitting on h.s. students.
look at ray everham, nascar owner. he is 50 and he is dating erin crocker, 26 adn she is one of his drivers.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 29, 2007 12:40:46 GMT -6
This thread should go on the Job and Career Advice forum...
There is no explanation for this type of behavior. We had a new hire at our school 5 years ago. Young guy with a beautiful wife. We have all of our new teachers assigned a mentor to help with the trivial and the critical - guess who got this kid? Me. I remember specifically going over the whys and wherefores of appropriate and inappropriate behavior with this guy. 3 motnhs later he was gone for hitting on several students and at least one our young teachers. When the "rumors" and "comments" started to appear we talked to him and told him if it was true to knock it off - all to no avail. Last I heard he's still coaching in the state - don't think he's teaching. You never would have thought it about the guy.
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Post by wingtol on Jul 29, 2007 14:22:10 GMT -6
Not to get on a soap box here but.......
The value of morality and values in this country is at an all time low. You can barely tell a kid whats right and wrong in school any more. Take God out of the pledge of allegiance, take God of of this, take God out of that......and now look whats happening. I won't go on any farther since I am sure it could erupt into a battle on here.
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Post by brophy on Jul 29, 2007 14:35:41 GMT -6
I really don't know you justfy this in your head. I am as much of a horndog as anyone but I still donMt know how folks can breach their principles for some strange. There is PLENTY out there and I suppose it boils down to either not having enough respect for yourself or the AGE of the girl. I used to have a coach (later worked on staff with him) who openly daed some of the girls on his track teams...... I dunno
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Post by crl on Jul 29, 2007 14:52:49 GMT -6
They will plead insanity...their just crazy for that kinda stuff....It happened when I was in HS...hey one of them actually married the girl! I was 18 at the time...I thought it was completely wrong, my Girlfriend at the time thought it was romantic! But then again I might have been biased....she was real good looking! You work to get where you are, and you let MR. P gets involved. I guess he fell a sleep in the morality lecture when he got hired! Fire them!
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Post by coachcb on Jul 29, 2007 15:08:54 GMT -6
It takes a pretty ignorant person to do this kind of thing....
These people are abusing a position of authority with these kids and making us all look bad... Even after these kids are gone and graduated; they are abusing their position in an extremely sick manner.
Hell, there was a teacher out in ID that was sleeping with a 16 year old girl and got fired for it. The girl wouldn't admit to anything, so no charges were pressed. He got another job in ID THAT NEXT YEAR and did it AGAIN. This time the girl was 18, so no charges were filed, but he of course lost his job..
I coached junior throws the past couple years and had some issues come up with some of these girls.
I had one girl say some extremely sexually charged things to me; I told her point blank that I never wanted to hear those kinds of things out of her mouth EVER again. After that, I went straight to the AD and told him EXACTLY what the girl had said and how I responded.
I had another girl this year that got inappropriately touchy/feely with me; I told her she to keep her hands to herself. And then, of course, I went to the head of the program and laid it all out for her.
In both situations, I made sure that when I confronted the girls, another coach was around.
All I can say is that if you're coaching girls sports, nip everything inappropriate in the bud and talk to your boss about it ASAP- cover you butt.
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Post by brophy on Jul 29, 2007 15:46:19 GMT -6
All right, all right, all right....That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
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Post by coachcb on Jul 29, 2007 16:14:11 GMT -6
So very, very, very inappropriate Brophy...... I'm assuming the school you work for knows that youre a terrible person.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 29, 2007 16:20:44 GMT -6
Hey, it just goes to show you. That same guy went on to be the Head Coach at Marshall University! WE ARE, MARSHALL!!!
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Post by wildcat on Jul 29, 2007 16:41:35 GMT -6
Don't let Brophy fool you...that is a picture of him on the sidelines from last year.
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Post by coachcb on Jul 29, 2007 16:48:19 GMT -6
You know, I may just have to buy me a plane ticket one day and head on down to the bayou. Brophy and I could have a nice rap sheet built up over a weekend....
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Post by khalfie on Jul 29, 2007 17:45:56 GMT -6
(OMG... I need an argument... this is Khalfie looking for a FIX!)
Before we chastise these gentlemen too hard... can we all agree that we exist within a society that promotes pedaphillia?
1. Anna Kournakova was 13 years old when society and the media began defining her as a sex symbol. 2. Lyndsey Lohan, most top models, even Brittany spears were championed as the epitome of beauty when they weren't even out of their teens. 3. Society's infatuation with the undeveloped body... skinny, flat, lacking of the mature jigglies is the definition of beauty in this society. 4. How many of you have seen the teenage girls for whatever sport, advertising the free car wash, half naked on the streets? Who is that for? Where is the outrage?
All I'm sayin'... is our society promotes pedophillia... and when the dumber elements of our society begins to buy into the media and sickness... we act like its all their fault.
What was the movie with Kevin Spacey, and he kept day dreaming of the high school girl? Paris Hilton is a role model, and the whorification of our daughters is ramped. I don't excuse what these men have done one bit... but this issue is entirely deeper than dumb teachers molesting children... which is also occuring at epidemic rates, not to mention our religious institutions.
The point is this... our society is at a moral and intrinsic value all time low. We promote ever misgiving within our music, movies, and media. The acceptance of drug use, promiscuity, and selfishness is at an all time high...
What we have are witnessing is easily the fall of Rome!
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Post by airraider on Jul 29, 2007 18:07:23 GMT -6
My wife was actually a high school senior during my first year as a student coach. I was 21 and she was 17.. We didnt meet at the school and her parents were cool with it.. well her dad wasnt completely cool.. but he loves me today.. haha.. so 7 years later.. we are still together..
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Post by brophy on Jul 29, 2007 18:14:24 GMT -6
(OMG... I need an argument... this is Khalfie looking for a FIX!)Before we chastise these gentlemen too hard... can we all agree that we exist within a society that promotes pedaphillia? 1. Anna Kournakova was 13 years old when society and the media began defining her as a sex symbol. 2. Lyndsey Lohan, most top models, even Brittany spears were championed as the epitome of beauty when they weren't even out of their teens. 3. Society's infatuation with the undeveloped body... skinny, flat, lacking of the mature jigglies is the definition of beauty in this society. 4. How many of you have seen the teenage girls for whatever sport, advertising the free car wash, half naked on the streets? Who is that for? Where is the outrage? All I'm sayin'... is our society promotes pedophillia... and when the dumber elements of our society begins to buy into the media and sickness... we act like its all their fault. What was the movie with Kevin Spacey, and he kept day dreaming of the high school girl? Paris Hilton is a role model, and the whorification of our daughters is ramped. I don't excuse what these men have done one bit... but this issue is entirely deeper than dumb teachers molesting children... which is also occuring at epidemic rates, not to mention our religious institutions. The point is this... our society is at a moral and intrinsic value all time low. We promote ever misgiving within our music, movies, and media. The acceptance of drug use, promiscuity, and selfishness is at an all time high... What we have are witnessing is easily the fall of Rome! Two things at work here, though. And before you stockpile the weapons in your bunker, Khalife, hear me out.... 1) Dating someone under aged is one thing (the case airraider presented.....although, the fact that he didn't marry his cousin should be applauded) - The DMZ of "18"....after 18 they are pretty much "fair game" as it is. Because the 'adult' / 'teenager' responsibilies and roles are clearly defined. 2) Using positions of authority for coercion. Defined, the position of 'teacher' and 'student' carry dominant and submissive roles, and the TITLE alone can be viewed as forcing one's will on another. Whether it is a student, employee, or church member....if you hold a superior position, it is generally a bad idea (career wise) to " fool around with the help". You know what I find attractive about my employees? They do what I tell them and they appreciate me as the supplier of their job. Now if you add parts of the female anatomy to the above equation of (appreciation + pleasant attitude) you make an unbeatable combination for a man to get wowed over...... My point being, these types of 'relationships' usually are misguided / misplaced emotions that you could easily get elsewhere. I believe this is covered in Section XII. Article 12 of the Man Code of Ethics book we received as teenagers.
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Post by crl on Jul 30, 2007 2:03:59 GMT -6
Hey for 20€´s here they´ll give a relationship with the misplaced emotions!
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Post by davecisar on Jul 31, 2007 20:51:48 GMT -6
Airraider, your best friend defintiely has a marriage that wil last forever, its built on a very strong foundation of lies and deceit. Im sure their realtionship is built upon mutual trust LOL. What would the Vegas odds be on it lasting 5 years 1.000-1, 1,000,000-1 ?
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Post by airraider on Jul 31, 2007 21:09:38 GMT -6
Airraider, your best friend defintiely has a marriage that wil last forever, its built on a very strong foundation of lies and deceit. Im sure their realtionship is built upon mutual trust LOL. What would the Vegas odds be on it lasting 5 years 1.000-1, 1,000,000-1 ? The absolute worst part is he has 3 kids and she has 2.. so that is 5 kids who's families were ripped apart because of stupid acts..
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