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Post by coachgreen05 on Dec 18, 2007 10:48:29 GMT -6
last year I had a legit 6'0 190 RB and two stud WRs.(all 3 offered D-I) We based out of the I and went 2 x 2 ,trips and bunch.
This year,my skill guys are way faster but way smaller. The school has great skill guys and adequate and not very big lineman. I wanna get both Rbs the ball(both 5'7 160 range,and 4.3-4.4 40 yd time).
What should I run...?? I wanna run something with simple O-Line blocking rules.
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Post by tedseay on Dec 18, 2007 11:05:46 GMT -6
last year I had a legit 6'0 190 RB and two stud WRs.(all 3 offered D-I) We based out of the I and went 2 x 2 ,trips and bunch. This year,my skill guys are way faster but way smaller. The school has great skill guys and adequate and not very big lineman. I wanna get both Rbs the ball(both 5'7 160 range,and 4.3-4.4 40 yd time). What should I run...?? I wanna run something with simple O-Line blocking rules. Coach: Give this a good long look. I have a brief article that explains it in a bit more detail; e-mail me if you'd like to see it: www.coacheschoice.com/product.cfm?pid=1675 |
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Post by dubber on Dec 18, 2007 11:08:29 GMT -6
Questions:
1. Do you have (and will you have) legit TE's?
2. What offense do you kow the best?
3. What is your offensive philosophy?
4. QB situation now and for the future?
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Post by pantherpride91 on Dec 18, 2007 11:11:16 GMT -6
maybe some quick screens....bubble/flair type plays.....
Jet will help get those fast guys out on the edge right away
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Post by gacoach on Dec 18, 2007 13:30:19 GMT -6
Ever looked into the split back? Run the option out of 2 te's or doubles. Make the defense balance up and not key on 1 back.
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Post by coach79 on Dec 18, 2007 16:57:03 GMT -6
You could try going to the Pistol with a Pro look.
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I have some info on the pistol if you are interested.
E-mail me if your interested
Coach_Brett@comcast.net
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 19, 2007 4:17:18 GMT -6
last year I had a legit 6'0 190 RB and two stud WRs.(all 3 offered D-I) We based out of the I and went 2 x 2 ,trips and bunch. This year,my skill guys are way faster but way smaller. The school has great skill guys and adequate and not very big lineman. I wanna get both Rbs the ball(both 5'7 160 range,and 4.3-4.4 40 yd time). What should I run...?? I wanna run something with simple O-Line blocking rules. Ill be the first. Try researching the double wing and see if its a fit for you. Perhaps more of a wing T jet offense would float your boat? |
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Post by morris on Dec 19, 2007 6:16:39 GMT -6
Get the Coverdale preason game planning dvd. There are people here that will trade it and I think it wil help you. It takes you a series of questions/steps that help you develop the offensive package. I do not have the notes with me but here are a few of the questions.
Common defenses
Teams we need to be able to beat to reach the next level
Go get the tools (tools to beat the common defense and those teams you picked)
Does it fit your philosophy?
Can you fix it (a ton people see stuff at clinics and it looks great but in most clinics you do not get ways to trouble shoot and fix problems)
Putting it together
Is it cheap or expensive (how much practice time? Does it have skills that translate to other plays)
What was effective last year (4+ yds or did it do its job when called in a game)
Does it fit our players
These are just some of the questions. Very good DVD that no matter what system you run or how good you feel about your system can help.
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Post by ghscoach on Dec 19, 2007 6:21:29 GMT -6
Ever looked into the split back? Run the option out of 2 te's or doubles. Make the defense balance up and not key on 1 back. Why does it seem most people think that if you run I formation the defense only has to key one back? |
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Post by gschwender on Dec 19, 2007 6:30:24 GMT -6
I run out of the I formation, and I use rule blocking. My blocking rules are simple:
1. Man head up
2. Inside gap
3. LB over
4. run inside=block out
5. run outside=block down
6. block somebody
They will be a little different w/ some plays, but for the most part they stay the same and are easy for the kids to remember.
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Post by coachgreen05 on Dec 19, 2007 8:58:20 GMT -6
Questions: 1. Do you have (and will you have) legit TE's? 2. What offense do you kow the best? 3. What is your offensive philosophy? 4. QB situation now and for the future? I know a few(spread,I,etc),but not many HS type offenses(fly,wing t,etc). Im looking at having a kis start for the next 2 years.Hes a pretty good passer. I believe in a balnce offense.Power O and playaction off it. It my Qb can throw the ball pretty well,i will prob pass way more and mix in draws,screens and zone runs. You could try going to the Pistol with a Pro look. --X--------------T-G-C-G-T------------------Z ------------------------------------Z -----------------------Q - ------------------H-------F I have some info on the pistol if you are interested. E-mail me if your interested Coach_Brett@comcast.net -Coach Brett I wanna take a look at that. Do I need a mobile QB?? . [/quote] Ill be the first. Try researching the double wing and see if its a fit for you. Perhaps more of a wing T jet offense would float your boat?[/quote] I saw some double wing/spread stuff that I love. It keeps our basic spread principles that we already have. |
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Post by coach79 on Dec 19, 2007 16:55:44 GMT -6
green-
A mobile QB would help but not entirely needed.
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Post by tvt50 on Dec 19, 2007 18:10:11 GMT -6
Its called get the ball to the guys who run 4.3 fortys.
The blocking rules are give these guys a crack and they're gone.
Hes an offense for you. Put your fast guy in there and toss it to him and watch him run. If he runs a 4.3-4.4 nobody but Deion Sanders or Randy Moss will be able to catch him.
LOL.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 19, 2007 20:12:45 GMT -6
My advice (for what its worth) run what you and your staff know best, for that matter what the kids know too. Do things that put the ball in the hands of your playmakers as much as possible.
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Post by dubber on Dec 19, 2007 21:09:11 GMT -6
Another question......how is your OL coach? What does he feel comfortable doing?
BTW, it looks like spread (with jets) is what you need.......that's based on the limited info I got
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Post by coachgreen05 on Dec 19, 2007 21:14:18 GMT -6
Its called get the ball to the guys who run 4.3 fortys. The blocking rules are give these guys a crack and they're gone. Hes an offense for you. Put your fast guy in there and toss it to him and watch him run. If he runs a 4.3-4.4 nobody but Deion Sanders or Randy Moss will be able to catch him. LOL. We have plenty of speed on opposing teams also. I want a sound offense.Im mostly trying 2 compensate for the OL,if they dont come thru. Another question......how is your OL coach? What does he feel comfortable doing? BTW, it looks like spread (with jets) is what you need.......that's based on the limited info I got avg,kinda lazy. I have taken it upon myself to work with the OL more closely this year. I like spread and jet stuff also. Whats a good playbook? My advice (for what its worth) run what you and your staff know best, for that matter what the kids know too. Do things that put the ball in the hands of your playmakers as much as possible. I form,triple,iso ,power,etc dont have that type of RB,and our OL cant knock ppl off the ball. We got zero push on our iso last season. |
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Post by cjamerson on Dec 20, 2007 13:15:19 GMT -6
Create a playbook that with plays that:
1. Are simple for the linemen
2. Create angles for the linemen. If they can't blow people off the ball, focus on creating angles with down blocks and double teams and break down their fundamentals and technique. I would rather have a small lineman with great technique than some slob-bucket who just depends on his size.
3. Work together...for example, Wing T stuff (trap, bucksweep, waggle, wingsweep)
4. Rockets and Jets...if you got speed everywhere, you might as well use it. I feel these plays get the ball to playmakers in space, and if your line is "less than average", you may be able to get by because with the Jet and Rocket sweep... you can get away with not blocking a Dlineman inside the 6 tech. Both the jet and rocket series' are good.
This is just my opinion, more than one way to skin a cat
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 23, 2007 9:44:54 GMT -6
Coach make your offense whatever you want to make it, but find ways to get speed in space.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 24, 2007 11:30:58 GMT -6
I say stick with what you have been doing, no need to change horses in the middle of the race. You know your offense and I am sure that they do too, and just becuase your linemen are smaller doesnt mean they cant get the job done. Get them in the weightroom this offseason turn them into some hosses so they dont have to be big but their strength makes up for the size
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