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Post by stuffcoachessayvids on Feb 9, 2022 9:58:50 GMT -6
Our State is looking into evaluating the process by which we select our playoff teams.
How do you determine in your state how a team makes the playoffs?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 10:13:04 GMT -6
Our state has gone through several models over the years.
Right now we have 6 classifications, divided up equally, with 8 conferences per class. The top 4 teams in each conference are in. The top 2 get to host in the first round.
The only thing is that there are some schools in 4 and 5 team conferences, so they’re guaranteed a playoff spot even if they’re 0-10 or 1-9 while teams with winning records from big conferences get left out.
This is still an improvement over the previous 2 systems. One had the 32 largest schools all in a separate class with automatic bids to play each other while the rest of the teams in the 5 smaller classes were selected on a complicated points system the state couldn’t even keep straight. Several times, the state screwed up who should be in or not.
Before that, we had a weird 3 class system for in-season conference play, which was split up into 6 for the playoffs with a points system that nobody liked.
What we have now is basically a return to what we had before them, but with privates taken out and schools divided into 6 classes instead of 5.
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Post by realdawg on Feb 9, 2022 10:32:47 GMT -6
A certain number of teams qualify from each conference. 5 or less teams 1 auto bid 6-8 teams 2 auto bids 9 or more teams 3 auto bids. The rest of the teams are then selected as wildcards based off of a formula. The formula is your winning percentage x.3. Your opponents winning percentage x.4 and your opponents opponents winning percentage x.3.
Then teams are seated based off this formula. With all conference champs being seated first.
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Post by cpcollet on Feb 9, 2022 11:03:36 GMT -6
Arizona uses a power point formula in order to qualify. The top 16 based on points get in. 4A-6A is purely based on points, even winning your region doesn't get you an automatic bid. It pays off to play a difficult schedule. A lot of people complain about it but it's hard to argue the accuracy of the formula based on the results of the playoffs the last few years.
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Post by fantom on Feb 9, 2022 11:09:18 GMT -6
Virginia:
- Six classifications, determined strictly by enrollment- no "playing up" or "playing down" - With one exception, private schools are in a separate association from public schools. - Each classification is divided geographically into regions. - The top eight schools in each regions, determined by power points (The usual: W/L record+ opponents' W/L records), make the playoffs. - Home teams are determined by seeding.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 9, 2022 13:10:01 GMT -6
Our State is looking into evaluating the process by which we select our playoff teams. How do you determine in your state how a team makes the playoffs? Currently SC -make playoffs by region finish - 5 classifications - 6-8 regions per classification - 5 rounds of playoffs - 32 teams per classification
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 9, 2022 13:58:20 GMT -6
Each class has eight sections. Everyone makes it in. You could be 0-8 but you will get a 9th game. In some sections there are eight teams. In some there are four. The one we were placed in the last few years had six teams. So the top 2 got byes.
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Post by stuffcoachessayvids on Feb 9, 2022 14:07:06 GMT -6
A certain number of teams qualify from each conference. 5 or less teams 1 auto bid 6-8 teams 2 auto bids 9 or more teams 3 auto bids. The rest of the teams are then selected as wildcards based off of a formula. The formula is your winning percentage x.3. Your opponents winning percentage x.4 and your opponents opponents winning percentage x.3. Then teams are seated based off this formula. With all conference champs being seated first. Coach, Is there any impact or adjustment for playing up? For example if a Lower division team played a larger, given your formula, does it adjust?
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Post by realdawg on Feb 9, 2022 15:04:25 GMT -6
No. There is nothing in the formula about playing up or down. It’s your winning percentage x.3. Opponents winning percentage x.4. And opponents opponents winning percentage x.3.
Our non conference schedule had 2 teams a class bigger than us. One the same as us. And one a class lower than us. And our conference is all the same class.
Next year our non conference schedule has 2 teams in a class lower than us. One the same. And one bigger. So it really all comes out in the wash for most teams.
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Post by stuffcoachessayvids on Feb 9, 2022 16:00:12 GMT -6
Virginia: - Six classifications, determined strictly by enrollment- no "playing up" or "playing down" - With one exception, private schools are in a separate association from public schools. - Each classification is divided geographically into regions. - The top eight schools in each regions, determined by power points (The usual: W/L record+ opponents' W/L records), make the playoffs. - Home teams are determined by seeding. Coach, How does the mathematical formula work for the VHSL? Is there a point amount attached?
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Post by fantom on Feb 9, 2022 19:35:03 GMT -6
Virginia: - Six classifications, determined strictly by enrollment- no "playing up" or "playing down" - With one exception, private schools are in a separate association from public schools. - Each classification is divided geographically into regions. - The top eight schools in each regions, determined by power points (The usual: W/L record+ opponents' W/L records), make the playoffs. - Home teams are determined by seeding. Coach, How does the mathematical formula work for the VHSL? Is there a point amount attached? I'll look it up but I can't tell you right off-hand. Mongo only pawn in game of life. We just played who they told us to play. I looked it up and have a link below. I stopped worrying about it after what became known as The Angel of Death Tour. Three years in a row we were told by a guy who figured this stuff out that unless a string of events took place that THIS would be our playoff opponent. We went to scout that team and, three years in a row, as we scouted our probable opponent we listened to updates telling us that each of those events were happening and THIS would NOT be our opponent. If The Angels of Death (Our staff) showed up at your week 11 game, get ready to pack up your chit after the game because you were done. Anyway, here's how the points system works: virginiapreps.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-power-points-are-calculated.57256/
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