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Post by silkyice on Feb 2, 2022 14:45:54 GMT -6
Not sure how that is quite relevant. By that logic the NBA game should be 30 minutes long instead of 48. I don't get your math-reasoning. NBA players are among the best athletes in the world. And NFL players aren't? not sure why that matters. HS football games are 48. COMPLETELY AGREE!! NFL games - 60 minutes - each quarter 15 NBA games - 48 minutes - each quarter 12 I just don't think that you need to play an additional 15 minutes of football if you go to overtime. That is too long. Also, what happens if you are still tied? Another 15 minutes. That starts to get ridiculous. Just play an extra shortened period. NBA plays 5 extra minutes. I actually think that is too long. But my point was that there is precedent from other sports to shorten the extra period. That makes sense to me. I think 2 minutes would work. But I get that might not be popular. 4 minutes would be good. Going by the NBA percentage, that gives you about 6 extra minutes. 6:15 to be exact. I could live with that. 2-4 minutes and you are tied, Just do another one. If it is 2 minutes, you would have to play 7 overtimes and you would still be less than extra full period. Also, I think the odds of being tied after 2 minutes are not as high as when you play longer especially 15 minutes. I will say this though, if you are trying to say that an extra 5 minutes of basketball is the same as 15 minutes of football, you are crazy. 18 years olds will sometimes play 3-4 games of AAU bball in a day. And then 3-4 the next day. And then 3-4 the next day. There is a reason football games take a week in between them on all levels. |
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Post by blb on Feb 2, 2022 15:29:52 GMT -6
I don't get your math-reasoning. NBA players are among the best athletes in the world. And NFL players aren't? not sure why that matters. HS football games are 48. COMPLETELY AGREE!! NFL games - 60 minutes - each quarter 15 NBA games - 48 minutes - each quarter 12 I just don't think that you need to play an additional 15 minutes of football if you go to overtime. That is too long. Also, what happens if you are still tied? Another 15 minutes. That starts to get ridiculous. Just play an extra shortened period. NBA plays 5 extra minutes. I actually think that is too long. But my point was that there is precedent from other sports to shorten the extra period. That makes sense to me. I think 2 minutes would work. But I get that might not be popular. 4 minutes would be good. Going by the NBA percentage, that gives you about 6 extra minutes. 6:15 to be exact. I could live with that. 2-4 minutes and you are tied, Just do another one. If it is 2 minutes, you would have to play 7 overtimes and you would still be less than extra full period. Also, I think the odds of being tied after 2 minutes are not as high as when you play longer especially 15 minutes. I will say this though, if you are trying to say that an extra 5 minutes of basketball is the same as 15 minutes of football, you are crazy. 18 years olds will sometimes play 3-4 games of AAU bball in a day. And then 3-4 the next day. And then 3-4 the next day. There is a reason football games take a week in between them on all levels. Well, I don't think I'm crazy, but let's put that aside for now and get back on topic. The reason NFL Competition Committee did away with "true" Sudden Death OT was because team that won coin toss only had to move ball into FG range, which because of kickers' abilities was like 40 yards. And they didn't want "Sudden Death" to be decided by a kick. That's why now if first team with ball gets only a FG, other team gets a possession. If first team with ball scores a TD (or there's a defensive score) - still "Sudden Death." Parenthetically - if Buffalo-Josh Allen had won coin toss and scored TD on their first possession to win the game at Arrowhead vs. Mahomes and the Chiefs, would this be as big an issue? Just asking. |
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Post by silkyice on Feb 2, 2022 16:33:23 GMT -6
Well, I don't think I'm crazy, but let's put that aside for now and get back on topic. Agree. You aren't crazy. We all know the history and reason for it. But I think we all (mostly) agree that those rules work for the regular season. Not the playoffs. No one wants a long OT during the season. Side note: My idea of an extra 2 minute or 4 minute period, would also keep it from being a long OT in the regular season. You could still have the rule in the reg season that after 1 (or maybe 2 with my proposal) OT periods, the game is just a tie. Yes. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 2, 2022 18:33:31 GMT -6
I don't get your math-reasoning. NBA players are among the best athletes in the world. And NFL players aren't? not sure why that matters. HS football games are 48. COMPLETELY AGREE!! NFL games - 60 minutes - each quarter 15 NBA games - 48 minutes - each quarter 12 I just don't think that you need to play an additional 15 minutes of football if you go to overtime. That is too long. Also, what happens if you are still tied? Another 15 minutes. That starts to get ridiculous. Just play an extra shortened period. NBA plays 5 extra minutes. I actually think that is too long. But my point was that there is precedent from other sports to shorten the extra period. That makes sense to me. I think 2 minutes would work. But I get that might not be popular. 4 minutes would be good. Going by the NBA percentage, that gives you about 6 extra minutes. 6:15 to be exact. I could live with that. 2-4 minutes and you are tied, Just do another one. If it is 2 minutes, you would have to play 7 overtimes and you would still be less than extra full period. Also, I think the odds of being tied after 2 minutes are not as high as when you play longer especially 15 minutes. I will say this though, if you are trying to say that an extra 5 minutes of basketball is the same as 15 minutes of football, you are crazy. 18 years olds will sometimes play 3-4 games of AAU bball in a day. And then 3-4 the next day. And then 3-4 the next day. There is a reason football games take a week in between them on all levels. The NBA has a provision in place to ensure the nature of the game (and corresponding outcome) is the same in a 5 minute period as a 12 minute period: The shot clock. The NFL doesn't. The last two drives in regulation in the AFC championship game were each over 6 minutes in length. I would be interested to see what the average length of possession is in the NFL, and then compare it to the average length of a possession when a team is trying to milk the clock. |
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Post by silkyice on Feb 3, 2022 10:31:06 GMT -6
And NFL players aren't? not sure why that matters. HS football games are 48. COMPLETELY AGREE!! NFL games - 60 minutes - each quarter 15 NBA games - 48 minutes - each quarter 12 I just don't think that you need to play an additional 15 minutes of football if you go to overtime. That is too long. Also, what happens if you are still tied? Another 15 minutes. That starts to get ridiculous. Just play an extra shortened period. NBA plays 5 extra minutes. I actually think that is too long. But my point was that there is precedent from other sports to shorten the extra period. That makes sense to me. I think 2 minutes would work. But I get that might not be popular. 4 minutes would be good. Going by the NBA percentage, that gives you about 6 extra minutes. 6:15 to be exact. I could live with that. 2-4 minutes and you are tied, Just do another one. If it is 2 minutes, you would have to play 7 overtimes and you would still be less than extra full period. Also, I think the odds of being tied after 2 minutes are not as high as when you play longer especially 15 minutes. I will say this though, if you are trying to say that an extra 5 minutes of basketball is the same as 15 minutes of football, you are crazy. 18 years olds will sometimes play 3-4 games of AAU bball in a day. And then 3-4 the next day. And then 3-4 the next day. There is a reason football games take a week in between them on all levels. The NBA has a provision in place to ensure the nature of the game (and corresponding outcome) is the same in a 5 minute period as a 12 minute period: The shot clock. The NFL doesn't. The last two drives in regulation in the AFC championship game were each over 6 minutes in length. I would be interested to see what the average length of possession is in the NFL, and then compare it to the average length of a possession when a team is trying to milk the clock. True. Which is why I suggest that the kicking team should get 3 timeouts and the receiving team 1 timeout or maybe even 0. That is also the reason I like 2 minutes. 1 timeout and 2 minutes is plenty of time, but at the same time, not a lot of time. I know that makes know grammatical sense, but if you understand football, it does make sense. The receiving team can't just take their time or they will run out of time. If they get to where they can just milk the clock, the kicking team can use those timeouts and force a decision or attempt. Or if the kicking team gets scored on within a minute or whatever, they now have 3 timeouts and 50 seconds or whatever, to go score. Which is doable. If the other team ends up driving the whole way and kicking a last second FG and your team never gets the ball, well, that is your fault. That is much much much better than a team getting the ball first with infinite time (or 15 minutes or whatever), to go score a TD and then too bad. |
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Post by CoachC on Feb 3, 2022 11:32:08 GMT -6
According to football outsiders for 2021 the Packers led the league with 3:25/drive and Seattle was last with 2:21/drive. The league average was 2:52/drive.
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Post by bobgoodman on Feb 3, 2022 19:11:21 GMT -6
Not just the owners either - NFLPA didn't have to agree to another regular season game. Not the owner, not the players.....it's the odds makers and Las Vegas demanding a winner. Gotta get that point spread covered. If there's a spread, that already breaks the tie. Sometimes OT produces a tie from a game that was decided with the spread. |
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