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Post by veerandshoot on Jan 24, 2022 7:56:23 GMT -6
Divisional Round Take-Aways:
1. When up by 21, and facing Brady, learn to bleed the clock. One series in the 4th quarter, the RAMS only took 9 seconds off the clock. A 3 minute drive would have made the difference
2. With 13 seconds left, up by 3, SQUIB kick to burn the clock
3. Double cover the opponents "STUD" WR's and make them beat you with their 3rd and 4th best
It was like being at a clinic
Lots of good coaching theories
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 8:04:05 GMT -6
1.Coaches repeatedly did everything they could to make sure they could lose the game.
2. ATTACK, ALWAYS
3. ON THE ROAD, SCORE TOUCHDOWNS. Especially if you dont have the better qb.
4. Rush lanes matter.
5. Force players BETTER BE ABLE TO PLAY FORCE.
6. PROTECT THE QB This isnt just about O-Line play
7 IZ is the most overrated play in football.
8. Qb and running protect the offensive line.
9.if you are going to play quarters, the safeties better be able to play man.
10. The true run stuffers STILL MATTERS AND IS A DIFFERENCE MAKER.
11. Play calling matter.
12. TALENT RULES.
13 The best playoff weekend and day(sunday) ever.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 24, 2022 12:05:13 GMT -6
The fan in me felt cheated that Josh Allen did not get a chance to answer Mahomes in OT. The coach in me felt that the Bills deserved the loss because their defense allowed the unallowable on KC's OT possession.
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Post by MICoach on Jan 24, 2022 12:25:05 GMT -6
Can we add "special teams matter"?
I am a Lions fan, so FTP, but how do you get a punt blocked when you have 8 in protection against 6 rushers?!?
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Post by blb on Jan 24, 2022 12:31:47 GMT -6
Can we add "special teams matter"? I am a Lions fan, so FTP, but how do you get a punt blocked when you have 8 in protection against 6 rushers?!? The 49er that blocked the punt rushed right over the Long Snapper and the Personal Protector ("Search Lighter," whatever you call him) released left to cover without checking for "seepage." I am a life-long Packer Backer (born in Green Bay), own a share of the team, and our Special Teams, especially kick coverage, have been an issue all year. Troy Aikman said on the broadcast Matt LaFleur told him "I just hope our Special Teams don't screw it up." Well... Ironic LaFleur fired his STs coach after last season, so this guy (Maurice Drayton) is in his first year... |
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Post by carookie on Jan 24, 2022 12:41:04 GMT -6
-Don't lose four fumbles and you probably won't lose a 20+ point lead.
-In the NFL where holding on pass pro is all but allowed, OL get to start their pass pro a second before the snap, and WRs can create contact, but DBs cannot.....airing it out is usually a good bet.
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Post by fantom on Jan 24, 2022 16:06:12 GMT -6
Don't let the other guy's best receiver get behind you.
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Post by blb on Jan 24, 2022 16:08:55 GMT -6
Don't let the other guy's best receiver get behind you. ...or ANY receiver for that matter. |
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Post by blb on Jan 24, 2022 16:31:31 GMT -6
3. Double cover the opponents "STUD" WR's and make them beat you with their 3rd and 4th best So you use four defenders to cover two, two more to cover #s 3 and 4. That leaves you only five to play the run. Also - what if opponents' 3rd biggest receiving threat is a TE (Gronk, Kelce, Kittle) and not a WR? |
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Post by carookie on Jan 24, 2022 16:51:45 GMT -6
3. Double cover the opponents "STUD" WR's and make them beat you with their 3rd and 4th best So you use four defenders to cover two, two more to cover #s 3 and 4. That leaves you only five to play the run. Also - what if opponents' 3rd biggest receiving threat is a TE (Gronk, Kelce, Kittle) and not a WR? I forget who it was, but there was a team doing that this weekend (I think it was the Rams in the first half but could be wrong). I think its just a different ball of wax in the NFL, and running something like this could be feasible- or at least with a matchup look. Not to mention its not as if you can only play the run or pass |
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Post by fantom on Jan 24, 2022 17:37:17 GMT -6
Don't let the other guy's best receiver get behind you. ...or ANY receiver for that matter. Maybe those "prevent defenses" aren't that bad of an idea after all. |
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Post by veerandshoot on Jan 24, 2022 18:48:00 GMT -6
Teams keep 6 in the box vs 1 back sets (to play the run) and still scheme to stop the opponents top two threats
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 25, 2022 7:58:37 GMT -6
The fan in me felt cheated that Josh Allen did not get a chance to answer Mahomes in OT. The coach in me felt that the Bills deserved the loss because their defense allowed the unallowable on KC's OT possession. I saw a report that in 2019 the Chiefs of all teams proposed a rule change to OT that both teams would get at least 1 possession regardless of the coin flip winner scored a TD or not. It was not seconded or supported by a single franchise. |
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Post by fantom on Jan 25, 2022 8:11:49 GMT -6
One takeaway that has nothing to do with Xs and Os: How coaches- and I include myself in this- are no different than any other fans when they're watching our favorite college and pro teams.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 25, 2022 9:25:21 GMT -6
Special teams matter.
Seconds matter.
Kicking the ball into the EZ for a touchback took nothing off the clock. NFL kickers must be good enough to put the ball where they want to (baring terrible conditions). Kick it so the clock runs.
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Post by carookie on Jan 25, 2022 11:59:41 GMT -6
Special teams matter. Seconds matter. Kicking the ball into the EZ for a touchback took nothing off the clock. NFL kickers must be good enough to put the ball where they want to (baring terrible conditions). Kick it so the clock runs. This is interesting to me, 5-10 years ago I would think that kicking it short to allow a return (but run time) would be a bad idea. My thought being that the team getting the ball had a better chance of breaking a big play on a KOR than they did in a snap from scrimmage. I don't know about this anymore though, or maybe this is just a HS thing where we tend to have a few sieves on KO coverage. I imagine if Buffalo kicked a returnable kickoff that was housed, or returned into FG range, the narrative would be, "you gotta put that ball through the back of the endzone and make them march down the field, not let them return it with the craziness of a special teams play." |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 25, 2022 12:16:09 GMT -6
Special teams matter. Seconds matter. Kicking the ball into the EZ for a touchback took nothing off the clock. NFL kickers must be good enough to put the ball where they want to (baring terrible conditions). Kick it so the clock runs. This is interesting to me, 5-10 years ago I would think that kicking it short to allow a return (but run time) would be a bad idea. My thought being that the team getting the ball had a better chance of breaking a big play on a KOR than they did in a snap from scrimmage. I don't know about this anymore though, or maybe this is just a HS thing where we tend to have a few sieves on KO coverage. I imagine if Buffalo kicked a returnable kickoff that was housed, or returned into FG range, the narrative would be, "you gotta put that ball through the back of the endzone and make them march down the field, not let them return it with the craziness of a special teams play." I agree. I am not sure, but was Tyreek Hill back there to return the kick? I suppose you could kick away from him. And I suppose if you squibbed it to around the 25 or so he wouldnt be the returner and clock would run. But I agree in general I would think there is a better chance at a big play happening on a KOR than against your set defense |
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Post by blb on Jan 25, 2022 12:34:42 GMT -6
Teams keep 6 in the box vs 1 back sets (to play the run) and still scheme to stop the opponents top two threats If, as you originally posted, you're going to double opponents' top two WR studs and single #s 3 and 4 - That leaves you only five in the box. Against five blockers and two in the backfield (Josh Allen?) |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jan 25, 2022 13:15:39 GMT -6
This is interesting to me, 5-10 years ago I would think that kicking it short to allow a return (but run time) would be a bad idea. My thought being that the team getting the ball had a better chance of breaking a big play on a KOR than they did in a snap from scrimmage. I don't know about this anymore though, or maybe this is just a HS thing where we tend to have a few sieves on KO coverage. I imagine if Buffalo kicked a returnable kickoff that was housed, or returned into FG range, the narrative would be, "you gotta put that ball through the back of the endzone and make them march down the field, not let them return it with the craziness of a special teams play." I agree. I am not sure, but was Tyreek Hill back there to return the kick? I suppose you could kick away from him. And I suppose if you squibbed it to around the 25 or so he wouldnt be the returner and clock would run. But I agree in general I would think there is a better chance at a big play happening on a KOR than against your set defense I agree, I don't think it was a bad call to kick and I don't think a squib would have necessarily solved the problem, which I've heard a lot of people on sports radio suggesting. The clock wouldn't run until the returner fielded the ball, so if they immediately kneel and end the play, I don't think it would have been a much different result than the touch back was. |
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Post by veerandshoot on Jan 25, 2022 13:25:14 GMT -6
Pooch Kick in the field between 15 and 5
Force them to field it
Even 3 seconds would have made a difference
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Post by blb on Jan 25, 2022 13:56:22 GMT -6
Pooch Kick in the field between 15 and 5 Force them to field it Even 3 seconds would have made a difference ...assuming the fastest man in NFL (Tyreek Hill) doesn't take the Pooch Kick back to The House or within FG range by himself. There is no right answer other than Play Defense, either with 13 seconds left in Regulation or in OT. |
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Post by silkyice on Jan 25, 2022 15:36:19 GMT -6
but was Tyreek Hill back there to return the kick? NO!!!! 99% positive that he was not. 99% only because I have not double checked. I looked for him on the KO and was SHOCKED that he was not back there and commented on it. Can anyone double check and confirm that? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 25, 2022 16:17:33 GMT -6
but was Tyreek Hill back there to return the kick? NO!!!! 99% positive that he was not. 99% only because I have not double checked. I looked for him on the KO and was SHOCKED that he was not back there and commented on it. Can anyone double check and confirm that? I do not think so either. I went to YouTube to see if I could find any highlights of him returning kicks and I only saw him returning punts. Maybe he doesn’t return kicks I don’t know |
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Post by silkyice on Jan 26, 2022 10:05:24 GMT -6
NO!!!! 99% positive that he was not. 99% only because I have not double checked. I looked for him on the KO and was SHOCKED that he was not back there and commented on it. Can anyone double check and confirm that? I do not think so either. I went to YouTube to see if I could find any highlights of him returning kicks and I only saw him returning punts. Maybe he doesn’t return kicks I don’t know Not sure how you don't have him back there in that situation. |
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Post by joris85 on Jan 28, 2022 7:42:39 GMT -6
I just checked on NFL gamepass' coaches film, he was not back there, #13 was.
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