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Post by coachcb on Nov 11, 2021 14:47:03 GMT -6
coachcb Teaching: I am learning that bit by bit each year. Classroom Management: You give a kid a "detention" and they say screw it I'm not coming....then what? Just curious. S&C: Are you a proponent of back squat or front squat and why?
They're written up for insubordination if they don't show up. The administration hammers them for missing my detentions. One kid is serving a day of ISS right now for skipping my detentions.
I prefer back squats as they're easier to teach and you can load them more. Most kids don't have the upper and lower back strength to front squat heavy, properly.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 11, 2021 14:51:59 GMT -6
S&C: Are you a proponent of back squat or front squat and why? Both. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 15:10:39 GMT -6
Teaching: stay out of sight out of mind. Stay away from them all, stay away from the gossip. Just nod in approval. Its ok.
Classroom management: I dont give a poop about cell phones, music, bathroom, eating, and drinking. I always have errands, copies, that need to be done. I dont do anything not absolutely necessary. I dont call security if at all possible, I dont kick em out of class, I certainly dont send them to the office. Or calll home. Anything can and will be overlooked if you give me a reason. I dont and will not raise my voice.
Coaching; I turn the lights on and I turn the lights off.
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Post by CoachF on Nov 11, 2021 15:36:43 GMT -6
coachcbI will be implementing detentions myself as well! Sounds like a good plan. A "referral" is what we fill out... always seemed too official and with no real follow through. Detention sounds better and is handled by me.
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Post by CoachF on Nov 11, 2021 15:37:15 GMT -6
S&C: Are you a proponent of back squat or front squat and why? Both. You have to have strong legs to stand on! |
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Post by CoachF on Nov 11, 2021 15:41:30 GMT -6
Teaching: stay out of sight out of mind. Stay away from them all, stay away from the gossip. Just nod in approval. Its ok. Classroom management: I dont give a poop about cell phones, music, bathroom, eating, and drinking. I always have errands, copies, that need to be done. I dont do anything not absolutely necessary. I dont call security if at all possible, I dont kick em out of class, I certainly dont send them to the office. Or calll home. Anything can and will be overlooked if you give me a reason. I dont and will not raise my voice. Coaching; I turn the lights on and I turn the lights off. Although much of this seems counterintuitive to what we learn or hope for when we get into it....I am starting to think it is more this way. Gossip is one of the absolute worst...rarely go to the teacher's lounge for lunch. Best lesson I learned in student teaching was the guys (there were about 7 male teachers who ate together in one room and put on ESPN) had one rule; no talking about school. Classroom management...is this all to not bring attention to yourself? I don't raise my voice either: it is a sign that they're getting under your skin. |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 11, 2021 15:46:39 GMT -6
coachcb I will be implementing detentions myself as well! Sounds like a good plan. A "referral" is what we fill out... always seemed too official and with no real follow through. Detention sounds better and is handled by me.
It'll feel like you're taking on a lot initially but there's a huge upside; you make it clear to the kids that it's YOUR classroom and YOUR rules. Most of the kids respect that and fall in line accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 16:23:30 GMT -6
Teaching: stay out of sight out of mind. Stay away from them all, stay away from the gossip. Just nod in approval. Its ok. Classroom management: I dont give a poop about cell phones, music, bathroom, eating, and drinking. I always have errands, copies, that need to be done. I dont do anything not absolutely necessary. I dont call security if at all possible, I dont kick em out of class, I certainly dont send them to the office. Or calll home. Anything can and will be overlooked if you give me a reason. I dont and will not raise my voice. Coaching; I turn the lights on and I turn the lights off. Although much of this seems counterintuitive to what we learn or hope for when we get into it....I am starting to think it is more this way. Gossip is one of the absolute worst...rarely go to the teacher's lounge for lunch. Best lesson I learned in student teaching was the guys (there were about 7 male teachers who ate together in one room and put on ESPN) had one rule; no talking about school. Classroom management...is this all to not bring attention to yourself? I don't raise my voice either: it is a sign that they're getting under your skin. I just learned the hard way. I started off trying to do it correctly. And i found the correct way was wrong. I just give them a {censored} load of work. And they do it (relatively easily). And its facilitated by the fact they can put on head phones, eat and drink, and they can go take a {censored}, work independantly, work as a group, sit on the floor, sit in your desk, and even talk. And not have to follow rules that really are outdated, they have outgrown. first 15 i talk Second 20 they work Last 10 we both {censored} off(employment grade) |
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Post by tog on Nov 11, 2021 18:00:02 GMT -6
TeachingClassroom ManagementSearching/Obtaining a new job Being a great assistantBeing a great head coachMotivating players/students Strength and conditioningAppeasing the wife Being a good father Offense/defense/special teams Personal Fitness Personal Faith Teaching: Fly under the radar as much as possible. Pop your head up long enough to get on good terms with the support staff (secretaries, maintenance) and administration.
Classroom Management: I'm strict but I handle 90% of issues in house. I dish out detentions in my room; before school, at lunch and after school for minor infractions. I only boot kids if they're disruptive or really push a line.
Being a great head coach (I was never great at it, but here you go): Communicate expectations clearly and concise; tell your assistants what you want done, how you want it done and give them a timeline.
Being a great assistant: be an expert at YOUR job. No one else's.
Strength and conditioning: Squat, squat, squat. Squat big and a lot of things fall in place.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 11, 2021 21:09:47 GMT -6
TeachingClassroom ManagementSearching/Obtaining a new job Being a great assistantBeing a great head coachMotivating players/students Strength and conditioningAppeasing the wife Being a good father Offense/defense/special teams Personal Fitness Personal Faith Teaching: Fly under the radar as much as possible. Pop your head up long enough to get on good terms with the support staff (secretaries, maintenance) and administration.
Classroom Management: I'm strict but I handle 90% of issues in house. I dish out detentions in my room; before school, at lunch and after school for minor infractions. I only boot kids if they're disruptive or really push a line.
Being a great head coach (I was never great at it, but here you go): Communicate expectations clearly and concise; tell your assistants what you want done, how you want it done and give them a timeline.
Being a great assistant: be an expert at YOUR job. No one else's.
Strength and conditioning: Squat, squat, squat. Squat big and a lot of things fall in place.
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Post by tothehouse on Nov 11, 2021 22:28:11 GMT -6
Listen to more heavy metal.
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Post by agap on Nov 11, 2021 23:19:24 GMT -6
Teaching: stay out of sight out of mind. Stay away from them all, stay away from the gossip. Just nod in approval. Its ok. Classroom management: I dont give a poop about cell phones, music, bathroom, eating, and drinking. I always have errands, copies, that need to be done. I dont do anything not absolutely necessary. I dont call security if at all possible, I dont kick em out of class, I certainly dont send them to the office. Or calll home. Anything can and will be overlooked if you give me a reason. I dont and will not raise my voice. Coaching; I turn the lights on and I turn the lights off. Although much of this seems counterintuitive to what we learn or hope for when we get into it....I am starting to think it is more this way. Gossip is one of the absolute worst...rarely go to the teacher's lounge for lunch. Best lesson I learned in student teaching was the guys (there were about 7 male teachers who ate together in one room and put on ESPN) had one rule; no talking about school. Classroom management...is this all to not bring attention to yourself? I don't raise my voice either: it is a sign that they're getting under your skin. I've learned most teachers want to fit in so they go to the teacher's lounge, gossip, etc. I spent most time in my room by myself. The only time I send students to the office is when they are disrupting someone else's education. If they don't want to work, that's their choice. They can listen to music and do whatever else they want, as long as they don't disrupt someone else's education. Nobody will know I work in the building unless a student disrupts someone else's education. |
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 12, 2021 7:45:26 GMT -6
I have found that giving detentions were more punishment for me than the students. Other than that, I to some extent agree with almost everything said in this thread.
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Post by CoachF on Nov 12, 2021 9:10:11 GMT -6
@coachpithy
Yes I understand where you are coming from. I know that situation...I usually talk for 5-10 explaining and give them the rest of the time to work (read & write) silence is all I ask for.
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Post by CoachF on Nov 12, 2021 9:10:40 GMT -6
tothehouseTHAT is good advice...but you have got to give us your top 5 bands.
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Post by CoachF on Nov 12, 2021 9:11:56 GMT -6
agapThankfully(?) an admin more or less told me that my second year. If they don't want to do anything, but are not making a commotion...leave them be.
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Post by CS on Nov 12, 2021 9:24:48 GMT -6
Teaching- Depends where I have been. I have had one school that valued my teaching ability more than my coaching ability. I didn't like that so I actively avoid jobs like that. If I'm getting fired I would rather it be for football
Classroom Management- Never had a problem with it. Respect the kids and expect it back
Searching/Obtaining a new job- Polish your resume and kick a$$ in the interview
Being a great assistant- Make the HC's job easier
Being a great head coach- TBD
Motivating players/students- Be yourself and let them get to know you personally
Strength and conditioning- Learn as much as you can and keep it simple
Appeasing the wife- Lay the pipe
Being a good father- Love your kids more than yourself
Offense/defense/special teams- make sure you can teach and drill the scheme. That will maximize performance more than the actual scheme
Personal Fitness- If it's important to you you will find a way. I work out 4 days a week year round so the bull$hit time constraint excuse is just that bull$hit
Personal Faith- Can't answer this one for you
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Post by coachcb on Nov 12, 2021 9:51:30 GMT -6
Although much of this seems counterintuitive to what we learn or hope for when we get into it....I am starting to think it is more this way. Gossip is one of the absolute worst...rarely go to the teacher's lounge for lunch. Best lesson I learned in student teaching was the guys (there were about 7 male teachers who ate together in one room and put on ESPN) had one rule; no talking about school. Classroom management...is this all to not bring attention to yourself? I don't raise my voice either: it is a sign that they're getting under your skin. I've learned most teachers want to fit in so they go to the teacher's lounge, gossip, etc. I spent most time in my room by myself. The only time I send students to the office is when they are disrupting someone else's education. If they don't want to work, that's their choice. They can listen to music and do whatever else they want, as long as they don't disrupt someone else's education. Nobody will know I work in the building unless a student disrupts someone else's education.
Yup and that is why I fly under the radar. I'll socialize (minimally) with teachers who don't gossip or b-tch but they're few and far between. Right now, I eat lunch with two great teachers or our HC because they keep their mouths shut about the goings-on in the school. I always warn new teachers that they'll be guilty by association if they hang around with gossipy teachers, whether they personally open their mouths or not.
And, I'm in the same boat with students who don't want to do anything; fail quietly. If you can't fail quietly, your life is going to get hard in a hurry. The bosses know I don't kick kids out often so, when I do, they don't mess around. I'll write them up with multiple infractions (above and beyond "Disruptive Behavior) and the principle or dean will act accordingly.
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Post by tripsclosed on Nov 12, 2021 10:09:42 GMT -6
Teaching- Depends where I have been. I have had one school that valued my teaching ability more than my coaching ability. I didn't like that so I actively avoid jobs like that. If I'm getting fired I would rather it be for football Classroom Management- Never had a problem with it. Respect the kids and expect it back Searching/Obtaining a new job- Polish your resume and kick a$$ in the interview Being a great assistant- Make the HC's job easier Being a great head coach- TBD Motivating players/students- Be yourself and let them get to know you personally Strength and conditioning- Learn as much as you can and keep it simple Appeasing the wife- Lay the pipe Being a good father- Love your kids more than yourself Offense/defense/special teams- make sure you can teach and drill the scheme. That will maximize performance more than the actual scheme Personal Fitness- If it's important to you you will find a way. I work out 4 days a week year round so the bull$hit time constraint excuse is just that bull$hit Personal Faith- Can't answer this one for you Yup, especially loving your kids more than yourself as a parent. True love, no matter who it is you love, whether it's your kids, your spouse, your father, mother, brother, sister, friends, etc, is wanting what is best for the other person no matter how it affects you. |
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Post by CoachF on Nov 12, 2021 11:41:07 GMT -6
Teaching- Depends where I have been. I have had one school that valued my teaching ability more than my coaching ability. I didn't like that so I actively avoid jobs like that. If I'm getting fired I would rather it be for football Classroom Management- Never had a problem with it. Respect the kids and expect it back Searching/Obtaining a new job- Polish your resume and kick a$$ in the interview Being a great assistant- Make the HC's job easier Being a great head coach- TBD Motivating players/students- Be yourself and let them get to know you personally Strength and conditioning- Learn as much as you can and keep it simple Appeasing the wife- Lay the pipe Being a good father- Love your kids more than yourself Offense/defense/special teams- make sure you can teach and drill the scheme. That will maximize performance more than the actual scheme Personal Fitness- If it's important to you you will find a way. I work out 4 days a week year round so the bull$hit time constraint excuse is just that bull$hit Personal Faith- Can't answer this one for you WOW! Hit em' all and kept it simple! Nice work. |
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Post by CoachF on Nov 12, 2021 11:42:39 GMT -6
I've learned most teachers want to fit in so they go to the teacher's lounge, gossip, etc. I spent most time in my room by myself. The only time I send students to the office is when they are disrupting someone else's education. If they don't want to work, that's their choice. They can listen to music and do whatever else they want, as long as they don't disrupt someone else's education. Nobody will know I work in the building unless a student disrupts someone else's education.
Yup and that is why I fly under the radar. I'll socialize (minimally) with teachers who don't gossip or b-tch but they're few and far between. Right now, I eat lunch with two great teachers or our HC because they keep their mouths shut about the goings-on in the school. I always warn new teachers that they'll be guilty by association if they hang around with gossipy teachers, whether they personally open their mouths or not.
And, I'm in the same boat with students who don't want to do anything; fail quietly. If you can't fail quietly, your life is going to get hard in a hurry. The bosses know I don't kick kids out often so, when I do, they don't mess around. I'll write them up with multiple infractions (above and beyond "Disruptive Behavior) and the principle or dean will act accordingly.
Good advice to the newbies. My "mentor" my first year was big on gossip...I was guilty by association for being near that person. |
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Post by tothehouse on Nov 12, 2021 12:08:05 GMT -6
I listen to a lot of stuff. Not sure if I have a top 5.
What I'm listening to right now.
Boundaries, Knocked Loose, Gojira, Testament, Sleep Token
Give em a try.
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Post by coachkeating33 on Nov 12, 2021 15:34:41 GMT -6
I'll weigh in on a few of these: Classroom Management - When making seating charts, I color code students as red, yellow, or green by behavior so that I have a visual of how spread out my behavioral issues are. Being a great assistant - This one's easy: generate value wherever you can and don't get miffed when the HC doesn't jump on those ideas/actions. Being a great head coach - You better have a good plan for inventory. Motivating players/students - Kids love free T-shirts. Work that into your plan somehow. Strength and conditioning - I've ditched cleans/snatches and I think you should, too. Buy some Hex Bars for HB Deadlift. The most important thing is having a consistent program over the course of a kid's 4 year development. 5 lbs a month on squats over 48 months is 240lbs of improvement and most kids will do that much by just walking into the weight room and warming up. Appeasing the wife - I mean, that's your job but I can always make a go at it... J/k, buy her flowers whenever you can, prioritize date night once a week, keep a calendar so you don't miss upcoming important stuff like anniversaries. Pull her hair sometimes. Being a good father - TBD. This is where me running my mouth about other people's kids is going to come back on me, HARD. Offense/defense/special teams - Zig where everyone else zags, don't be the same as the rest of your league/conference/whatever. Mix your cadence and your tempo. Stem your front. Personal Fitness - Unless you're really dialed in to your sleep, diet, and overall wellness, the stress of the season is going to make it tough to do much but maintain whatever fitness level you're at prior to the start. Doesn't mean you try to maintain, you should be working hard, but just know that you're not likely to be going anywhere until your life gets a bit more normal. Also, if you're not meal prepping, you're wasting money and likely costing yourself in the general health/wellness dept. Protein + Veggie + Simple Carb, just mix up the variables. why no more cleans? |
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Post by mariner42 on Nov 12, 2021 16:57:35 GMT -6
I'll weigh in on a few of these: Classroom Management - When making seating charts, I color code students as red, yellow, or green by behavior so that I have a visual of how spread out my behavioral issues are. Being a great assistant - This one's easy: generate value wherever you can and don't get miffed when the HC doesn't jump on those ideas/actions. Being a great head coach - You better have a good plan for inventory. Motivating players/students - Kids love free T-shirts. Work that into your plan somehow. Strength and conditioning - I've ditched cleans/snatches and I think you should, too. Buy some Hex Bars for HB Deadlift. The most important thing is having a consistent program over the course of a kid's 4 year development. 5 lbs a month on squats over 48 months is 240lbs of improvement and most kids will do that much by just walking into the weight room and warming up. Appeasing the wife - I mean, that's your job but I can always make a go at it... J/k, buy her flowers whenever you can, prioritize date night once a week, keep a calendar so you don't miss upcoming important stuff like anniversaries. Pull her hair sometimes. Being a good father - TBD. This is where me running my mouth about other people's kids is going to come back on me, HARD. Offense/defense/special teams - Zig where everyone else zags, don't be the same as the rest of your league/conference/whatever. Mix your cadence and your tempo. Stem your front. Personal Fitness - Unless you're really dialed in to your sleep, diet, and overall wellness, the stress of the season is going to make it tough to do much but maintain whatever fitness level you're at prior to the start. Doesn't mean you try to maintain, you should be working hard, but just know that you're not likely to be going anywhere until your life gets a bit more normal. Also, if you're not meal prepping, you're wasting money and likely costing yourself in the general health/wellness dept. Protein + Veggie + Simple Carb, just mix up the variables. why no more cleans? No longer view them as worthwhile given the wholesale commitment to them that I think is necessary. I'm USAW L1 certified and I think I teach them very well, but I just don't think that you need them and if you don't NEED them, then why do them? Also, I think doing them well necessitates a degree of mobility that many kids will struggle with and there's just not enough time to get there. Kind of like dabbling in the Wing-T. Marry it or stay the f*** away. In this case, I choose the latter. |
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 12, 2021 18:15:21 GMT -6
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Post by CS on Nov 12, 2021 19:40:21 GMT -6
No longer view them as worthwhile given the wholesale commitment to them that I think is necessary. I'm USAW L1 certified and I think I teach them very well, but I just don't think that you need them and if you don't NEED them, then why do them? Also, I think doing them well necessitates a degree of mobility that many kids will struggle with and there's just not enough time to get there. Kind of like dabbling in the Wing-T. Marry it or stay the f*** away. In this case, I choose the latter. I agree with ousting the cleans. It takes time to get them good enough to get the benefits and if you don’t get your kids most of the year they just aren’t worth it |
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 12, 2021 20:04:30 GMT -6
I agree with fewer full, power cleans. Hang cleans are pretty easy to teach IMO.
But, I'd take squat/DL over any form of clean every day of the week.
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Post by coachkeating33 on Nov 12, 2021 21:17:20 GMT -6
No longer view them as worthwhile given the wholesale commitment to them that I think is necessary. I'm USAW L1 certified and I think I teach them very well, but I just don't think that you need them and if you don't NEED them, then why do them? Also, I think doing them well necessitates a degree of mobility that many kids will struggle with and there's just not enough time to get there. Kind of like dabbling in the Wing-T. Marry it or stay the f*** away. In this case, I choose the latter. what lifts do you feel you "need?' |
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Post by mariner42 on Nov 13, 2021 9:22:54 GMT -6
No longer view them as worthwhile given the wholesale commitment to them that I think is necessary. I'm USAW L1 certified and I think I teach them very well, but I just don't think that you need them and if you don't NEED them, then why do them? Also, I think doing them well necessitates a degree of mobility that many kids will struggle with and there's just not enough time to get there. Kind of like dabbling in the Wing-T. Marry it or stay the f*** away. In this case, I choose the latter. what lifts do you feel you "need?' There's no sacred cows, imo. But you'd better have the ability to strengthen the legs somehow and build armor in the upper body. How you do that depends on your situation and what equipment you have available to you. |
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Post by coachkeating33 on Nov 13, 2021 9:41:24 GMT -6
No longer view them as worthwhile given the wholesale commitment to them that I think is necessary. I'm USAW L1 certified and I think I teach them very well, but I just don't think that you need them and if you don't NEED them, then why do them? Also, I think doing them well necessitates a degree of mobility that many kids will struggle with and there's just not enough time to get there. Kind of like dabbling in the Wing-T. Marry it or stay the f*** away. In this case, I choose the latter. I agree with ousting the cleans. It takes time to get them good enough to get the benefits and if you don’t get your kids most of the year they just aren’t worth it thoughts on how important dead lifts are? |
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