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Post by 44dlcoach on Oct 31, 2021 22:33:52 GMT -6
I've coached in a few games where we could have scored 100+ if we wanted to and there was no running clock rule. But no way our QB could have thrown 13 TDs because all those games included multiple TDs on defense and special teams.
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Post by mc140 on Oct 31, 2021 23:17:39 GMT -6
I've coached in a few games where we could have scored 100+ if we wanted to and there was no running clock rule. But no way our QB could have thrown 13 TDs because all those games included multiple TDs on defense and special teams.
Yeah I watched game this past year where the final was 79-0 and the winning team offense only had the ball 8 times.
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Post by tog on Nov 1, 2021 6:49:36 GMT -6
I've coached in a few games where we could have scored 100+ if we wanted to and there was no running clock rule. But no way our QB could have thrown 13 TDs because all those games included multiple TDs on defense and special teams. back when we were a power/counter/iz team we were playing someone that was outmatched (rarely happened to us, we were generally the outmatched folks) anyhow my hc told me if I wanted to throw it do it on the first or second drive otherwise the offense would be not real classy because he knew we were going to blow them out scored on one run defense scores scored on one run defense scores "hey, no passes" we've only run 2 plays "I can't help it if the d scores as much as you guys" (he was a defensive head coach) lol ok made the newspapers the next day as the team that didn't throw the ball , yay |
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Post by wingtol on Nov 1, 2021 9:26:18 GMT -6
Won a game 90-32 a few years ago. Believe me, we weren't even trying to run the score up. We had all backups in on offense, and our third-string RB busted runs of 51, 55, and 65 yards on the first play of some series. However, the other team continued to pass the ball for incompletions- meaning their series only took about 15 seconds off the game clock. This situation sounds bad, but since then I'll always reserve judgment on these types of situations. Sometimes you just run into a team that quits in the middle of the game, while your back-ups (who have been itching to make their mark all year-long) are hungry and fired up. 90-32 with backups is 100% different from 106-0 with starting qb throwing 13 td’s. Sometimes, it just is what it is. Sometimes, a jerk is the head coach. Period. Amen. If you're up big and running FB blast the whole second half and kids are scoring then you tried. 13 td passes and GOING FOR 2 UP 104-0 leaves no room to reserve judgment! That coach is a prick. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 9:56:18 GMT -6
I am sure this will help(eye roll)
"No coach can out-coach recruiting"
Football scoop.
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Post by dblwngr on Nov 1, 2021 11:19:40 GMT -6
Still chucking it in the 4th with your stud.....cmon man, just run the dam dive!
And get the water boy in at FB if you have to.
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Post by 33coach on Nov 1, 2021 11:38:20 GMT -6
there is no situation where this is ok.
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Post by 33coach on Nov 1, 2021 15:50:26 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice.
what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played.
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Post by blb on Nov 1, 2021 15:54:54 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice. what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played. In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. |
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Post by 33coach on Nov 1, 2021 16:02:10 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice. what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played. In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. yea i guess, im starting to wonder if thats the right way to go about things. i know if i was a ref and a team was up 70+ in the 2nd quarter. id throw every borderline penalty on them, every play would have a flag, and theyd have a few sideline warnings  |
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Post by coachscdub on Nov 1, 2021 16:02:43 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice. what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played. In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. This is a question i had asked a ref a few years ago, we played a school they scored 60 on us in the first half, our kids were getting hurt, diving out of the way to avoid tackling the RB, and faking injuries (kids who didnt play a down claimed they were hurt when we asked them to play), and the ref wouldnt let us go to a running clock. I asked him what else we can do and he just walked away. Couldnt forfeit because apparently our HC would have been fired, his words, but i dont doubt it. |
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Post by 33coach on Nov 1, 2021 16:03:24 GMT -6
In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. This is a question i had asked a ref a few years ago, we played a school they scored 60 on us in the first half, our kids were getting hurt, diving out of the way to avoid tackling the RB, and faking injuries (kids who didnt play a down claimed they were hurt when we asked them to play), and the ref wouldnt let us go to a running clock. I asked him what else we can do and he just walked away. Couldnt forfeit because apparently our HC would have been fired, his words, but i dont doubt it. thatd be a dick of a principal if he didnt let you walk out. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 16:19:24 GMT -6
I've coached in a few games where we could have scored 100+ if we wanted to and there was no running clock rule. But no way our QB could have thrown 13 TDs because all those games included multiple TDs on defense and special teams. back when we were a power/counter/iz team we were playing someone that was outmatched (rarely happened to us, we were generally the outmatched folks) anyhow my hc told me if I wanted to throw it do it on the first or second drive otherwise the offense would be not real classy because he knew we were going to blow them out scored on one run defense scores scored on one run defense scores "hey, no passes" we've only run 2 plays "I can't help it if the d scores as much as you guys" (he was a defensive head coach) lol ok made the newspapers the next day as the team that didn't throw the ball , yay Nice. I once worked for a HC who had basically given up on his job, assumed that we were going to lose every game big, and literally would not allow us to throw the ball until we got a running clock. His main offensive objective was to just run the clock down as quickly as possible so we could go home early. Ideally, he wanted us to be blown out so bad by halftime we’d have the running clock the whole second half and we could do whatever at that point. He actually got mad at me and chewed my @$$ on the sidelines for calling passes that were keeping us in a game against a more talented opponent in our first game. This was the same guy who literally thought it was impossible to throw the ball from under center in HS. He thought you needed college talent for that. He also said he didn’t go to clinics because he knew everything there already. He already knew it all as a 24 year old “defensive-minded HC” who never once held a team under 50. The next year that he left to become OC at a pretty good program who ran TFS with some studs. A year after that he was out of coaching. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 1, 2021 18:05:24 GMT -6
If that QB had suffered a major injury trying to throw TD pass #11 or #12 in that game, it would fall squarely on the coach’s shoulders. I thought the same thing. In fact, (and I am not very proud to say this) in one of my HS games in which we were getting crushed, a team mate of mine took a cheap shot at an SEC signee as we were getting blown out (down 50 in the 4th quarter). The SEC kid was still in the game at that point, his knees were taken out, and he did not play college football. |
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Post by rosey65 on Nov 2, 2021 8:02:36 GMT -6
Can anyone find the film from this game? All I've been able to find is a clip off Twitter showing the 48-yard screen pass, going up 86-0 at halftime. Seemed like a pretty pathetic game, minimal effort by either team by that point. Also, one of the articles I saw said most of the passes were dump-offs.
Yes, throwing your starter late and up that big is a prick move, just wondering if anything else might have precipitated this game? Were there words? Did the losing team quit before the game started? Had they reported the winning coach for recruiting?
This kinda sounds like there's a story akin to that 222-0 GaTech-Cumberland game back in the day.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 2, 2021 12:13:41 GMT -6
Can anyone find the film from this game? All I've been able to find is a clip off Twitter showing the 48-yard screen pass, going up 86-0 at halftime. Seemed like a pretty pathetic game, minimal effort by either team by that point. Also, one of the articles I saw said most of the passes were dump-offs. Yes, throwing your starter late and up that big is a prick move, just wondering if anything else might have precipitated this game? Were there words? Did the losing team quit before the game started? Had they reported the winning coach for recruiting? This kinda sounds like there's a story akin to that 222-0 GaTech-Cumberland game back in the day. Wow... 86-0 at half.. Throw some pads on a manager and hand her the ball for the rest of the game.. |
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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2021 16:35:12 GMT -6
actually, now that im back from practice. what is the refs responsibility here? i feel like there needs to be SOME level of oversight to protect our game from idiot coaches at the time the game is played. In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. I am sure there ae ways they could milk some time off the clock. Call someone in bounds that was out but close, wait a bit before they chop the play clock, take their time spotting the ball. We have been on both sides of blow outs and even with a mercy rule in effect the refs have made it easy to run time off by doing things like that. Also if I was the other team anytime I had the ball I would have waited to snap it at the 5 second hand by the ref. |
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Post by blb on Nov 2, 2021 16:50:13 GMT -6
In the absence of a running clock (Mercy Rule) I don't think there's anything officials can do about a coach running up the score. I am sure there ae ways they could milk some time off the clock. Call someone in bounds that was out but close, wait a bit before they chop the play clock, take their time spotting the ball. We have been on both sides of blow outs and even with a mercy rule in effect the refs have made it easy to run time off by doing things like that. Also if I was the other team anytime I had the ball I would have waited to snap it at the 5 second hand by the ref.Had a few games in my career where I had to use my Prevent Offense too. |
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Post by wingtol on Nov 2, 2021 17:02:10 GMT -6
I am sure there ae ways they could milk some time off the clock. Call someone in bounds that was out but close, wait a bit before they chop the play clock, take their time spotting the ball. We have been on both sides of blow outs and even with a mercy rule in effect the refs have made it easy to run time off by doing things like that. Also if I was the other team anytime I had the ball I would have waited to snap it at the 5 second hand by the ref.Had a few games in my career where I had to use my Prevent Offense too. It's really nice when the ref understands and chops it like as you are breaking the huddle after a good 25 seconds or so in the huddle. |
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