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Post by carookie on Aug 18, 2021 8:26:49 GMT -6
Had my first parent-coach conflict of the year yesterday; dude was kind of a nut case and all over the map. Which got me thinking, I know a lot of people in retail and other similar professions have been upset at how customers have been behaving since the Covid lockdowns: rude, aggressive, entitled, confrontational, sometimes violently defiant.
Am wondering, have you all been seeing the same attitudes from parents? Are they growing worse since the lockdowns?
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 18, 2021 9:03:12 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere.
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Post by newhope on Aug 18, 2021 12:21:40 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere. Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 14:00:01 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere. Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. Interesting!
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 18, 2021 16:47:33 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere. Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. Idk, I would think getting duct taped to your seat, getting arrested and paying fines would be considered consequences.
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Post by realdawg on Aug 19, 2021 3:04:59 GMT -6
Last night after practice, a JV kid came in with his mom and quit and asked for his physical to transfer..b/c he was the STARTING RB not the starting QB!!!!!!!
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Post by coachjm on Aug 19, 2021 5:13:43 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere. Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. Not so sure I buy into this thought process..... People are certainly on edge... Since the pandemic I have experienced a different set of emotions then I have ever prior.... Although, I believe myself to be an optimist with a general upbeat demeanor (internally), during this pandemic I have had increased anxiety, depression, anger, and at times a sense of helplessness. I do not have extreme political beliefs one way or the other so I do believe my emotion is stemming from the lack of interactions and restrictions of interactions we have had to endure mainly due my innate desire to be with people and appreciation of social interaction. One simple example I went nearly 9 months without seeing my parents, during that time I got very anxious about not seeing them again despite them taking great precautions, once they were comfortable with regular distanced visits (I would check on them weekly or bi-weekly) this anxiousness went away. I do believe there are many people who have dealt with much higher levels of anxiety and depression prior to the pandemic then I did I can't imagine how they are coping or handling the emotions I was confronted with if they may have been on edge to start. I don't believe simply hiring more counselors or having more consequences will solve these issues, I do believe until the pandemic becomes an endemic we will be confronted with these challenges and at that time we may be able to work our way back to a stage in which human decency and love for one another trumps the internal emotions of the moment...
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Post by blb on Aug 19, 2021 5:53:08 GMT -6
We have become a nation (even Pre-Pandemic) where if someone disagrees with you he-she is not only wrong but a bad person who must be disparaged publicly with the concurrent rise in violent episodes.
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 19, 2021 6:10:58 GMT -6
I do believe until the pandemic becomes an endemic I think we're already there.
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 19, 2021 6:12:04 GMT -6
We have become a nation (even Pre-Pandemic) where if someone disagrees with you he-she is not only wrong but a bad person who must be disparaged publicly with the concurrent rise in violent episodes. {censored} you, you idiot! I can't believe you're that stupid! DEPLORABLE!!
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Post by fkaboneyard on Aug 19, 2021 9:15:33 GMT -6
Agree with most of the above, would also add that wearing masks is taking a huge toll. It provides some anonymity for many people and they say things that they previously wouldn't say. In addition, non-verbal communication like a smile is completely lost and people are isolating. It's a sad time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 10:03:36 GMT -6
I don't know if it's COVID, or what, but all of society seems totally off their rockers. From airplanes, to sporting events, to school board meetings, to everything, people are acting like jackasses everywhere. Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. If anything, the bad behavior is getting rewarded now with attention and other jackasses expressing their support for it. Politicians, interest groups, and others are encouraging this and finding ways to cash in so it’s just going to get worse. We’re in a weird time. Covid and the last election politicized everything to hell and back and people still can’t get over it. From people threatening school board members over mask mandates or accusing people of being literal genocidal Nazis because of how they vote, it’s crazy. One of the reasons that retail, restaurant, and other service industry jobs can’t get and keep people anymore is because no one wants to deal with the sheer amount of crazy BS people are slinging at them. I blame a lot of it on social media. The algorithms these companies use to drive up “engagement” tend to do it by exposing people to stuff that will make them feel outraged, fearful, or anxious (so it gets shared and they go down rabbit holes that waste more time and attention there) and pitting different groups against each other. Covid and the past year has also stressed a lot of people out, anyway, so people are irritable, depressed, or being just plain irrational. There are a lot of people who respond to that stuff by taking it out on whoever is around them and picking fights. I think that’s part of it, too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 10:08:11 GMT -6
Agree with most of the above, would also add that wearing masks is taking a huge toll. It provides some anonymity for many people and they say things that they previously wouldn't say. In addition, non-verbal communication like a smile is completely lost and people are isolating. It's a sad time. This is a good point. One weird thing I remember seeing somewhere was that in American emojis, the emotion is primarily expressed through the different mouth shapes because that is where we focus most of our attention for nonverbal communication. Well, now that’s covered up much of the time. I mean no disrespect to anyone who hates the masks (I sure do now…), but I’ve noticed the bigger jackasses tend to be people who are aggressively anti-mask and won’t wear one, anyway. My 65 year old coworker got into a fistfight when he was standing in line to early vote back in October because a guy ahead of him was belittling everyone around him who wore a mask and just generally being a crazy and insulting @$$hole.
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Post by coachjm on Aug 19, 2021 11:18:35 GMT -6
I do believe until the pandemic becomes an endemic I think we're already there. Totally agree from my view, however, I think when there is a common view of this from our medical professionals (CDC), politicians (the White House), and the media (at least the big ones) I don't think much will change. Although I would much prefer that the Football Coaches of America could make this declaration. There was a county in Iowa that did yesterday.
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Aug 19, 2021 13:31:19 GMT -6
Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. Idk, I would think getting duct taped to your seat, getting arrested and paying fines would be considered consequences. While there are immediate consequences that might even be quite steep, getting arrested, etc just provides these folks with exposure and a following which sadly makes it worth it folks to misbehave.
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Post by newhope on Aug 20, 2021 9:05:52 GMT -6
Because there are no consequences to bad behavior. It's just that simple, IMO. Idk, I would think getting duct taped to your seat, getting arrested and paying fines would be considered consequences. And the ones who did the duct taping got in as much trouble....we have a culture now of doing as you please
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 23, 2021 12:44:52 GMT -6
interesting video I came across that might put a professional spin on what's happening, or a least use bigger words
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Post by olliebaba14 on Aug 24, 2021 12:55:16 GMT -6
We just had our first positive case. After a month this was expected but man I feel like I did last feb. waiting for the wheels to come off
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Post by IronmanFootball on Aug 24, 2021 15:57:36 GMT -6
We just had our first positive case. After a month this was expected but man I feel like I did last feb. waiting for the wheels to come off I'm an idiot and took our MS HC job. Can't wait for the COVID {censored} to start rolling in. We start Monday. 9 weeks 6 games. I expect about 6.5 weeks and 3.5 games.
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Post by olliebaba14 on Aug 24, 2021 17:46:42 GMT -6
I think we’ll finish but get two games canceled
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Post by coachcb on Aug 26, 2021 13:14:12 GMT -6
Yes, I've had more issues with parents this year than normal. I don't know if all of the cases were due to people being on edge but one parent did try to politicize the situation. His daughter used the word f@g in my class and I gave them detention for it. Her dad asked me if his kid "hurt my feelings" and also referred to me as a "snowflake" in an email. I forwarded it to the principal with the subject "Not Dealing With This."
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