newhc
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Post by newhc on Mar 5, 2007 16:51:29 GMT -6
my best player doesn't get any attention in the recruiting period. I gave film, transcripts, and let every one meet him on their first visit. I did not go behind him and set up his visits but I told him which schools he needed to visit and in which order to visit them. I was in constant contact with his parents and Guidance Counselor about his Clearing House Paper work. I have talked to a couple of the coaches who have a good relationship with about why they choose this guy over him, and they said it was him showing a lack of interest. I have even mass emailed every school in the MAC and Conference USA with his High Light Tapes, Gape Film, and Grades. I have only gotten two responses back from doing this, and once you follow those they turn into nothing. So my question is How of the recruiting fight falls on the coach? What could I have done differently? How do you really sell schools on your athletes? A new coach whose head is down  |
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Post by sls on Mar 5, 2007 16:59:38 GMT -6
It is a tough process, do as much as you can and hold your high. Send tape, stats, and make a few calls. IMO, there is not much the coach can do to make it happen at the D1 level, especially if the kids is not passionate about making it happen.
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Post by Yash on Mar 5, 2007 17:05:24 GMT -6
Try a lower division. Maybe hes not division 1 talent. go 1AA or division 2, see if there is interest there.
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Post by airman on Mar 5, 2007 17:05:43 GMT -6
I have learned not to take things personal. It is the greatest thing any one(especially a coach) can learn.
I can argue with anyone on this board and shake hands at the end. agree to disagree.
one can only control there own self.
sure you want the kid to get the scholarship. take note here, 50% of all those 5 star recruits do not pan out.
as for the kid, it was his choice. we are the sum total of the choices we make in life. recruiting is like selling cars, it is a relatonship. if you think the people or saleman is disinterested, you make a mental note and judgement. it is just how it is.
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kr7263
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Post by kr7263 on Mar 5, 2007 17:28:33 GMT -6
I have coached college DII & DIII for 10years. I know many DI coaches. Sorry to burst your bubbles but most guys I know have a set list of kids from soph - jr and sr. If a kid isn't getting attention as a soph or jr they are going to have a tough time. Of course there is always the exception and if a kid has a great sr year. But the fact of life is, there are not too many DI coaches arbitrarily choosing kids. Most DI coaches want a name kid from a name school (they know what to expect). Tell your kids as sophmores and juniors to get into camps, if he's good enough send film. Get thier name out there early. However, I know some coaches who don't look at film sent to them unless they request it (they throw it away).
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Post by Rogie on Mar 6, 2007 7:04:06 GMT -6
I can tell you as a D-III coach. At a small school. We look at every film sent here. I guess it is just where you are at. I know of other D-III schools that only look at certain films.
We will take any player as long as they are good and willing to put in the effort and time needed both during the season and off-season.
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Post by spartancoach on Mar 6, 2007 8:13:11 GMT -6
Coach: sounds like you did everything you could for the kid. If he didn't show the interest and do the follow up, after being told that it was important, it was his choice that cost him. Hold your head high and keeping plugging away.
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satch
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Post by satch on Mar 6, 2007 10:25:15 GMT -6
I've been on both sides. Listen the tape doesn't lie. Ask the NFL combine guys. He may be the best in your area and all-district but compared to a whole state the size of Texas. Is your LB better than 98% of the Lb's in Texas. That's the question you may answer. Over 1300 schools in texas with at least 1 Sr. LB. He has to be better than 1265 of them.
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Post by brutus8367 on Mar 6, 2007 11:41:19 GMT -6
Well its a tough world...I did everything i could. the kid did everything...He was a late bloomer, were a small school with not a lot of tradition. I have coached 3 div 1 LBs at another school and this kid was head and shoulders above every one of them. I sent out films to every mac, CUSA, and some other D1, some D2s...Most of the d1s did not even watch film because he was not on the so called hot list. This kid can flat out OUT play, but nothing transpired. He would be one of those kids that someone in about 2-3 years would say wow, how did someone miss him.
I am now going to recommend that he sit out the fall, and enroll somewhere in the spring and walk on for spring practice.
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Post by ajreaper on Mar 6, 2007 12:23:33 GMT -6
Isn't it a little early to give up? There's still time to find a program that's a fit for him.
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Post by tvt50 on Mar 6, 2007 12:33:30 GMT -6
I heard a HS coach say once, "I tell the parents, I dont have any scholarships to give out"
Parents- See everything that they do right
HS Coach- Sees everything right and wrong
College Coach- Sees everything they do wrong
Just send the tapes out and document it. Tell them these are all the schools that I sent film to and they are not interested. These are the schools that are interested.
"Colleges dont look for reasons to recruit you, they look for reasons not to recruit you."
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Post by tvt50 on Mar 6, 2007 12:35:00 GMT -6
Recruiting to a HS coach is like fishing. You send the tapes out sometimes you get a bite, sometimes you don't.
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Post by wingman on Mar 6, 2007 23:24:36 GMT -6
Sound like you do everything we do and that's a ton, but I don't think college coaches put a lot of stock in what you say personally. That's like asking a mother if her son is good looking. Unless you are seeing all the other pros[pects being recruited, you can't know where he fits in. I will say if he's a borderline guy and he doesn't show much interest on his end, they'll move on.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 7, 2007 1:41:14 GMT -6
newhc.... Maybe the kid doesn't want to play college ball. So, don't hang your head, you did what you could.
Recruiting is a tough deal.
High School coaches want to do right by their kids, BUT the need (or they should rather) temper their enthusiasm with some reality. A couple of borderline kids pushed to hard, and your reputation with the college coaches is shot. YOu will be labeled as someone who pushes EVERYONE, and each prospect will fall under more scrutiny.
College coaches have to coddle to the growing egos (thanks a lot Tom Lemming/scouting services, Army all star game...etc etc) of 17-18 year old boygods who have probably not had to compete for much the last 3 years. This attitude is now trickling down from the blue chips, to the non scholarship athletes. Not only do they have to deal with these kids, but they have to constantly balance their sales pitch and string kids along, always looking to "upgrade" and deal with the recruiting chain reaction that occurs when a kid that falls through the cracks of the upper levels (CUSA school signing an "SEC" prospect that just didnt fit in the numbers for example, then bumps a Tulane kid to a Sunbelt school, which knocks a kid on the Sunbelt school's board down to the 1AA level, etc etc.)
The worst part of recruiting in college is the danger of "missing" on a kid. That is why the 5'11 guys don't get recruited...the white skilled players get asked to walk on, the kid with all the intangibles, but slower 40 time is passed on... because when these kids miss, you get fired. This is why you see the "hot list" used so often. If you take a flyer on a kid, and he pans out..great...if not, pack your bags. If you just bring the "hot list" kids in, well, the head coach can't gripe much because EVERYONE thought this kid was a can't miss.
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