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Post by poundit52 on May 7, 2021 3:46:24 GMT -6
Just because I’m curious, who are some coaches (from any level of football) that you have studied a lot or gotten some of your philosophy from? It could be who you have learned from in the past or who you are currently studying. For example, when I first got into coaching I loved option football so I was looked at a lot of Paul Johnson and Tom Osborne. Now as I’ve gotten a little older, I’ve really studied guys like Gus Malzahn, Phil Longo, and Brent Dearmon for the power spread game.
I just think it’s interesting to see who other coaches’ try to mimic or take things from philosophy wise. It could be offense, defense, special teams, leadership, program/team building, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 5:59:21 GMT -6
Alex Gibbs, and its not oz necessarily, just a lot of things that i wont learn in a book. I can pick up oz blocking anywhere. Ex. Run weak.
My Mentor. The power of a progression and relationships with your players. And life. When i read diffferent posters here and elsewhere, I am not sure they understand the progression and time it takes to build solid offensive linemen.
My boss, not the same as my mentor.a lot of professional thing that i dont hear elsewhere. The path to being AD and HFC.
My old boss was huge. He taught me the power of parents who $upport your program. The verbal support to your face means squat.
Then you have the air raid, DTDW guy. The power of small and executing and off tackle
I learned a little from a jack burns tape i have.
The cool clinic
And nick saban and his minions. I dont think saban invented it. But he has it communicated to those willing to spend the time.
and Here. A lot of people say and post thing that do not get the attention they deserve.
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Post by poundit52 on May 7, 2021 7:27:58 GMT -6
Alex Gibbs, and its not oz necessarily, just a lot of things that i wont learn in a book. I can pick up oz blocking anywhere. Ex. Run weak. My Mentor. The power of a progression and relationships with your players. And life. When i read diffferent posters here and elsewhere, I am not sure they understand the progression and time it takes to build solid offensive linemen. My boss, not the same as my mentor.a lot of professional thing that i dont hear elsewhere. The path to being AD and HFC. My old boss was huge. He taught me the power of parents who $upport your program. The verbal support to your face means squat. Then you have the air raid, DTDW guy. The power of small and executing and off tackle I learned a little from a jack burns tape i have. The cool clinic And nick saban and his minions. I dont think saban invented it. But he has it communicated to those willing to spend the time. and Here. A lot of people say and post thing that do not get the attention they deserve. Oh yeah! How could I forget about this site?! There is such a wealth of information and experience here. I’ve learned a ton on this site! |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 8:11:47 GMT -6
Alex Gibbs, and its not oz necessarily, just a lot of things that i wont learn in a book. I can pick up oz blocking anywhere. Ex. Run weak. My Mentor. The power of a progression and relationships with your players. And life. When i read diffferent posters here and elsewhere, I am not sure they understand the progression and time it takes to build solid offensive linemen. My boss, not the same as my mentor.a lot of professional thing that i dont hear elsewhere. The path to being AD and HFC. My old boss was huge. He taught me the power of parents who $upport your program. The verbal support to your face means squat. Then you have the air raid, DTDW guy. The power of small and executing and off tackle I learned a little from a jack burns tape i have. The cool clinic And nick saban and his minions. I dont think saban invented it. But he has it communicated to those willing to spend the time. and Here. A lot of people say and post thing that do not get the attention they deserve. Oh yeah! How could I forget about this site?! There is such a wealth of information and experience here. I’ve learned a ton on this site! lot of people who directly or indirectly, some cases not even know how much they help. Very generous and kind people. |
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Post by coachscdub on May 7, 2021 9:41:52 GMT -6
College Guys:
Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Tony Franklin, Sonny Dykes, Dana Holgorsen, Jake Spavital, Kliff Kingsbury
Noel Mazzone, Bobby Acosta, David Marsh
Chip Kelly
Gus Malzahn, Rhett Lashlee, Jeff Scott, Chad Morris
Joe Moorhead, Joe Brady, Ricky Rahne
Art & Kendal Briles
Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian
Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, Dan Mullen
High School Guys:
Kevin Kelley, Steven Lo, Andrew Coverdale, Dan Gonzalez, Matt Logan
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Post by CS on May 7, 2021 15:40:24 GMT -6
College Guys: Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Tony Franklin, Sonny Dykes, Dana Holgorsen, Jake Spavital, Kliff Kingsbury Noel Mazzone, Bobby Acosta, David Marsh Chip Kelly Gus Malzahn, Rhett Lashlee, Jeff Scott, Chad Morris Joe Moorhead, Joe Brady, Ricky Rahne Art & Kendal Briles Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, Dan Mullen High School Guys: Kevin Kelley, Steven Lo, Andrew Coverdale, Dan Gonzalez, Matt Logan Kevin Kelley is no longer a high school guy |
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Post by coachscdub on May 7, 2021 16:50:57 GMT -6
College Guys: Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Tony Franklin, Sonny Dykes, Dana Holgorsen, Jake Spavital, Kliff Kingsbury Noel Mazzone, Bobby Acosta, David Marsh Chip Kelly Gus Malzahn, Rhett Lashlee, Jeff Scott, Chad Morris Joe Moorhead, Joe Brady, Ricky Rahne Art & Kendal Briles Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, Dan Mullen High School Guys: Kevin Kelley, Steven Lo, Andrew Coverdale, Dan Gonzalez, Matt Logan Kevin Kelley is no longer a high school guy I know i saw that yesterday, good for him, looking forward to seeing his system at the FCS level |
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Post by undcovcoach on May 7, 2021 18:32:06 GMT -6
The Iowa State guys are interesting for sure, NC State transitioning to the Stack.
Coastal for their offense, thank you Alex Kirby.
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Post by CoachF on May 7, 2021 21:11:59 GMT -6
Tom Osborne: Appears to me like he did everything the right way, and had incredible success. He stepped into a good situation; but the expectations were sky high and it was still Nebraska. The way those teams played makes my heart swell.
Bo Schembechler: Another guy I feel like did things the right way. Loved the way his teams played. He was blunt and gruff but in the right ways in my opinion. Most important and cliche thing: It’s about the TEAM.
Hayden Fry: Was totally in tune with the psychology of the game, team building, etc. He got his guys to go. I’m from Iowa, but he still took them from a laughing stock to a contender.
Kirk Ferentz: Again, I’m biased, but he has done a great job. It’s Iowa. He has focused on the fundamentals. Don’t be flashy: develop the fundamentals and compete.
Bill Belichick: I question some of the stuff that had happened with the Patriots; but the dude just loves football. I’d imagine he’d be coaching a flag football team or something if he wasn’t in the NFL. Just loves the game.
Paul Johnson: Get great at something and you can fix it. F everyone else do what you believe in.
Matt Campbell and Randy Jackson: again a little biased; but culture and how you do things matters more than what you do.
My middle school coaches. They taught me faith, family, school, then football. They also taught me to listen and look twice as much as I spoke. Give your best; when you didn’t-they demanded your best. They taught me the power of belief-when a coach believes in you and shows interest in you-sky is the limit.
Many high school coaches. Mainly the ones who put team building first and their egos last.
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Post by tog on May 8, 2021 5:54:39 GMT -6
texas high school football guys network
period
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 6:14:04 GMT -6
texas high school football guys network period Explain if you would be so kind? |
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Post by undcovcoach on May 8, 2021 7:44:10 GMT -6
texas high school football guys network period link please? |
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Post by NC1974 on May 8, 2021 19:58:52 GMT -6
Alex Gibbs, and its not oz necessarily, just a lot of things that i wont learn in a book. I can pick up oz blocking anywhere. Ex. Run weak. My Mentor. The power of a progression and relationships with your players. And life. When i read diffferent posters here and elsewhere, I am not sure they understand the progression and time it takes to build solid offensive linemen. My boss, not the same as my mentor.a lot of professional thing that i dont hear elsewhere. The path to being AD and HFC. My old boss was huge. He taught me the power of parents who $upport your program. The verbal support to your face means squat. Then you have the air raid, DTDW guy. The power of small and executing and off tackle I learned a little from a jack burns tape i have. The cool clinic And nick saban and his minions. I dont think saban invented it. But he has it communicated to those willing to spend the time. and Here. A lot of people say and post thing that do not get the attention they deserve. Oh yeah! How could I forget about this site?! There is such a wealth of information and experience here. I’ve learned a ton on this site! Coach, Would you mind expanding on your "progression" for teaching OL? |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 5:25:32 GMT -6
Oh yeah! How could I forget about this site?! There is such a wealth of information and experience here. I’ve learned a ton on this site! Coach, Would you mind expanding on your "progression" for teaching OL? Stance Jab step power step Hands inside Head up rolling of the hips Board drills Sled work Cage All the {censored} even half decent, interested coaches do. But he understands kids need reps. He wants the pancake... he wants the defender on his back out of perfect technique. That’s a molding that takes some time. And it works.... But he is committed to the kids. During season of course. But in January and through spring ball, right through summer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 5:37:39 GMT -6
Coach, Would you mind expanding on your "progression" for teaching OL? Stance Jab step power step Hands inside Head up rolling of the hips Board drills Sled work Cage All the {censored} even half decent, interested coaches do. But he understands kids need reps. He wants the pancake... he wants the defender on his back out of perfect technique. That’s a molding that takes some time. And it works.... But he is committed to the kids. During season of course. But in January and through spring ball, right through summer. It’s the man. Not the drills |
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Post by aceback76 on May 9, 2021 9:39:38 GMT -6
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Post by aceback76 on May 9, 2021 10:08:39 GMT -6
OFFENSE:
Alex Gibbs has a GREAT clinic lecture DVD (given at Clemson) on how to TEACH O-Linemen on & off the field, & it's NOT at all about the Zone plays. Just solid info on TEACHING FOOTBALL (methods that were new to me)! Unfortunately, the DVD is not for sale (perhaps if one could reach Alex, he might be able to tell how to get a copy). We treasure it & it is indispensable to our O-Line Coach. I allow Coaches to come here to make a copy, but would never put it in the mail.
I. We like to study the following for pass offense (CURRENT West Coast style):
---1. Joe Moorhead
---2. Tom Brady
---3. Steve Sarkisian
II. For the current Zone running game - Ferentz at Iowa, and Dan Roushar with the Saints (& of course Alex Gibbs).
III. "Pro-Style Football Association" (Rich Kelly's excellent site).
IV. On Developing a TOTAL Program = old Ara Parseghian AFCA lecture.
NOTE: We always have our "library" (playbooks & videos) on hand from my "mentors" (that taught me offense) that we refer to continuously.
---1. Sid Gillman
---2. Joe Gibbs (& his staff)
---3. Bill Walsh
---4. Lindy Infante
---5. Bobby Bowden
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Post by kylem56 on May 22, 2021 14:20:01 GMT -6
successful high school coaches in Michigan and Ohio first and foremost. I started coaching in 2005 and I remember trying to study as many successful coaches in Ohio (Mike Vicars, Tim Spiess, Greg Dempsey, or proteges of legendary coaches such as Skip Baughman) and then coaches in Michigan like Irv Sigler, my HS coach Jack Giarmo, his brother Gasper, John Shillito, Tony Annesse, Jason Mensing, Al Fracassa, Tom Mach, Ralph Munger, Tim Baechler and on and on. Joining the local and state coaches association in both states help me get to know successful guys or guys who worked for legends.
also have a library of over 300+ books of every coach you can think of. Some of my favorites were the AFCA MAster Coaches series, Bo Schembechler's books, Barry Alavrez, Lou Holtz, Woody Hayes, Urban Meyer's Above the Line book but the guys behind that system even more, Bill Snyder, Bill Walsh books, and Nick Saban's. All of those more so pertained to program management and philosophy rather than X and 0's. There is some great D3 coaches out there as well to learn from.
Like someone else mentioned, as an O-Line coach, I have countless notebooks full of notes from every COOL Clinic (I especially enjoyed Paul Alexander and Juan Castillo. The best pass protection technique/scheme clinics I ever seen was from Castillo who started out as a defensive line coach!) before I decided to go all in on the Wing-T / Power-T then studied successful coaches within that offense from Tubby Raymond, Irv Sigler, Tom Herman (Mercyhurst), Rich Erdyeli, Wes Elrod, Herschel Moore. Again, I think its important to make sure you are at least supplementing your studying of coaches with successful high school coaches. Some people will knock Jerry Campbell because he but he is knowledgeable, Tim Murphy is another one.
I also started out as a defensive line coach and just got back into coaching it again last year and realized how much I missed it. I really got alot out of Rex Ryan's videos, Air Force videos, or watching drill tapes then writing letters or emails to those position coaches and asking if I could drive to talk to them or speak to them on the phone.
Don't be afraid to cold call/email/write letters to coaches asking if you could meet or talk to them somehow. You would be surprised how many of them are willing to help. Now granted, you probaly arent going to have luck emailing the offensive coordinator at Alabama or tweeting Ryan Day to see if he can talk ball but if you are seriously wanting to learn about a big program and why it is really successful (aside from the dozens of NFL players they carry on their roster), contact the GA's !!!
Sorry for the long winded response, hope it helps
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