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Post by coachc6061 on Apr 15, 2021 22:27:23 GMT -6
Something I have been pondering a lot, and please think about this from a realistic point of view. I am a huge advocate of individual times and drills. Think they are huge and very important.
But lets say that you are a two platoon team, and do not have many coaches.
I am thinking about structuring individual drills to be able to serve two groups at the same time. This obviously is a bit different than it is done in most places.
However, instead of having linebackers work reads and reacts on bags, Put the d-line in front of them and have the O line run their plays. Obviously there will be things that are missed, but if you are short handed you are still covering three Indy's with one coach. Maybe throw the running back in there as well to work on his reads and cuts etc.
Cover team technique type stuff. Pursuit drills/plays on air/tackling circuit with a coach with offense and a coach with the defense.
I am sure that someone will read this and think "this dude is a moron" and that's okay. Just understand that I am coaching at a school with 2 Assistants and 50+ players, and even though yes we should have more coaches, the county doesn't consider it to be important, and these kids deserve to be coached too. So just consider that before you bury me, looking for the best way to kill as many birds with one stone as I can at practice.
I do not want to fall into the "all practice is team" mentality that you see on a lot of small school staffs
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Post by 44dlcoach on Apr 15, 2021 23:01:07 GMT -6
Group time is really valuable, as long as the kids are comfortable with what the period simulates. We do most of ours on Tuesday and Wednesday after we've had time to install the weekly plan in indy on Monday/Tuesday.
Obviously if you don't have many coaches you don't have the luxury of going indy first, but that small group time is still valuable.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Apr 16, 2021 6:58:32 GMT -6
I think this is a fine idea. Obviously your not gonna get to coach them up as much bc you cant watch all of it. It would be really good if you could film it and get them to watch after practice. But I have been there with not enough coaches. Obviously its not ideal, but nothing is when you don't have enough coaches. I think its great to combine groups... spend half time coaching up LBs and other have coaching up DL... & they still get the entire time doing that drill.
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 16, 2021 8:10:59 GMT -6
Something I have been pondering a lot, and please think about this from a realistic point of view. I am a huge advocate of individual times and drills. Think they are huge and very important. But lets say that you are a two platoon team, and do not have many coaches. I am thinking about structuring individual drills to be able to serve two groups at the same time. This obviously is a bit different than it is done in most places. However, instead of having linebackers work reads and reacts on bags, Put the d-line in front of them and have the O line run their plays. Obviously there will be things that are missed, but if you are short handed you are still covering three Indy's with one coach. Maybe throw the running back in there as well to work on his reads and cuts etc. Cover team technique type stuff. Pursuit drills/plays on air/tackling circuit with a coach with offense and a coach with the defense. I am sure that someone will read this and think "this dude is a moron" and that's okay. Just understand that I am coaching at a school with 2 Assistants and 50+ players, and even though yes we should have more coaches, the county doesn't consider it to be important, and these kids deserve to be coached too. So just consider that before you bury me, looking for the best way to kill as many birds with one stone as I can at practice. I do not want to fall into the "all practice is team" mentality that you see on a lot of small school staffs I don't think you're a moron...I can accept your ideas on this. In my mind, this is taking what you have and building on it. It's what coaches do. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 16, 2021 8:37:34 GMT -6
Makes sense to me and should work. We did it at a school I was at in NC when we were short on coaches. Like guys said, you can't see anything but it's a valuable use of time to work fundamentals and each kid is still getting something resembling the amount of attention they deserve.
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Post by Defcord on Apr 16, 2021 8:39:39 GMT -6
I think it's a fine idea. I would film it so you can go back and correct bad habits.
I may be wrong but if practice solidifies action then I don't want them repping something a ton when I am not looking and just getting worse at it because we don't have enough eyes to catch it during the drill.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 16, 2021 8:48:23 GMT -6
This is an excellent idea as long as long as you have two things going for you:
1. Each position has a firm grasp on their fundamentals. You don't want your DL and LBs working against an OL that doesn't know the basics of what they're doing and vice versa. If they don't have those basics down, you'll be stopping continually to fix a couple of kids while everyone else waits.
2. The coaches need to be on their toes and know what they're looking for. I would suggest scripting the offensive plays and defensive fronts to streamline this. The coaches know what's being run and what to look for before the snap.If we did it this way, there'd be some overlap in what the coaches are watching; the LB/RB coach might be watching the DE and LBs for a proper Power/Counter fit while the OL coach watches the OL and the RB for fundamentals.
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Post by CoachSP on Apr 16, 2021 9:25:16 GMT -6
Short answer: Yes. What you are proposing is a great idea. Got to find a way to get the fundamentals right.
I agree with what cb said. Script everything.
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Post by coachc6061 on Apr 16, 2021 9:48:37 GMT -6
I think this is a fine idea. Obviously your not gonna get to coach them up as much bc you cant watch all of it. It would be really good if you could film it and get them to watch after practice. But I have been there with not enough coaches. Obviously its not ideal, but nothing is when you don't have enough coaches. I think its great to combine groups... spend half time coaching up LBs and other have coaching up DL... & they still get the entire time doing that drill. I have a "Coach" i use that term because he just isnt a football guy who wants to do computer work for us and film. So he agreed to film our practices daily. Along with scripting everything we do, he will have a film script so we are getting the film we need to break down everyone appropriately. Appreciate the positive responses. For some reason I was expecting some purists to come in here and drag me for not finding a way to break the kids up so we could get 20 mins of indo a day. |
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