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Post by wingtol on Mar 24, 2021 15:34:47 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved.
Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately?
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Post by coachscdub on Mar 24, 2021 15:38:56 GMT -6
I think alot of the slack these coaches are getting are for "subtweeting/shaming" the kids. College coaches, specifically smaller college coaches love to go "We just took a recruit off our board for _____". And people don't like this because of instead of using it as a teaching moment, they just take away his opportunity to go to that college and brag about how that's not the insert team mascot way.
Also unrelated but i hate the culture guys posts a lot of it feels very cultish and weird.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 15:40:33 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved. Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately? Then when the coach does get more involved, he will be accused of not letting the kids be kids, or wanting to win at all cost.....it is a sick cycle. |
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Post by wingtol on Mar 24, 2021 15:51:49 GMT -6
It's not the college coaches thing I mean I get some of that but also it's kind of their job so....
Yeah the culture guys can get a bit out of hand, I'm a big character guy and we have a great program we use that's real laid back. It's more of like when a coach posts like you wont win with this type of kid because blahh blahh blahh then guys go nuts WHAT DID YOU DO FOR THE KID? DID YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HIM? YOU FAILED HIM! FIND OUT THE PROBLEM!!
Like yeah I am sure they have done all that but sometimes it is what it is...
I feel like it's almost become a no blame for the player deal with these guys or lets do some restorative justice with the kid...then watch them steal a bike on their way out of school or start a fight. Some people are just turds no matter what.
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Post by fantom on Mar 24, 2021 16:57:42 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved. Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately? It's Twitter. What did you expect? |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 24, 2021 17:20:38 GMT -6
It's not the college coaches thing I mean I get some of that but also it's kind of their job so.... Yeah the culture guys can get a bit out of hand, I'm a big character guy and we have a great program we use that's real laid back. It's more of like when a coach posts like you wont win with this type of kid because blahh blahh blahh then guys go nuts WHAT DID YOU DO FOR THE KID? DID YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HIM? YOU FAILED HIM! FIND OUT THE PROBLEM!! Like yeah I am sure they have done all that but sometimes it is what it is... I feel like it's almost become a no blame for the player deal with these guys or lets do some restorative justice with the kid...then watch them steal a bike on their way out of school or start a fight. Some people are just turds no matter what. That's society right now. Coaching is just reflecting the trend. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault. |
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Post by CoachF on Mar 24, 2021 17:30:24 GMT -6
They’re both massive generalizations and both are seeking attention (likes and retweets).
Coaches trying to call out other coaches are simply revealing their character IMO.
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Post by wingtol on Mar 24, 2021 18:13:58 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved. Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately? It's Twitter. What did you expect? I know I know.... |
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Post by CS on Mar 24, 2021 19:23:19 GMT -6
Virtue signaling on both sides. Neither side is fully in touch with reality. The answer is always somewhere in the middle.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 24, 2021 19:29:07 GMT -6
And these are not kids. They're 18 or older. If you're going to hold their hand they will fail down the road.
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Post by agap on Mar 24, 2021 20:02:59 GMT -6
What's Twitter?
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Post by vicvinegar on Mar 24, 2021 21:31:10 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved. Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately? It's Twitter. What did you expect? Exactly! Twitter & the other social media platforms are nothing but a cancer. |
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Post by agap on Mar 24, 2021 21:52:45 GMT -6
It's Twitter. What did you expect? Exactly! Twitter & the other social media platforms are nothing but a cancer. I'll admit that I check some people's Twitter for some of the things they post about football or sports, but I won't have it myself again. I see how obsessed my students are with social media and it makes me realize that I don't want to do the same thing as an adult. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 5:26:41 GMT -6
Exactly! Twitter & the other social media platforms are nothing but a cancer. I'll admit that I check some people's Twitter for some of the things they post about football or sports, but I won't have it myself again. I see how obsessed my students are with social media and it makes me realize that I don't want to do the same thing as an adult. Its another I know I am old and vintage. I have no social media accounts. None. No fb, no twitter, zero. I dont have the apps. I do not understand the obsession with stupid. I ask the kids all the time what can they tell happened two weeks ago on twitter? You got it, silence is the answer. Its stupid. But they also think I am OLD. |
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Post by tog on Mar 25, 2021 6:51:27 GMT -6
i hate the culture guys posts a lot of it feels very cultish and weird. and fake |
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Post by CoachSP on Mar 25, 2021 7:00:27 GMT -6
I also hate when coaches are preaching and preaching, obtain all of these followers who continue to fluff their ego (OMG congrats coach!!!!) and don't follow back or ever want to share ideas. As if they have some type of online fame. Dude, you aren't Saban, Dabo, Urb, etc. Chill out.
Or book guy. Or website subscription guy.
"Hey coach, what's that first step look like for __________________ technique?"
"It's in my book available on Amazon."
I also saw a high school RBs coach write a book on the 4-2-5 and never shares one lick of defensive related material. Basically just drew a defense for dummies.
I need to get into the book business and self promote. I've created so many templates and crap over the years that someone will buy it.
Rant over.
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Post by CS on Mar 25, 2021 8:35:32 GMT -6
I also hate when coaches are preaching and preaching, obtain all of these followers who continue to fluff their ego (OMG congrats coach!!!!) and don't follow back or ever want to share ideas. As if they have some type of online fame. Dude, you aren't Saban, Dabo, Urb, etc. Chill out. Or book guy. Or website subscription guy. "Hey coach, what's that first step look like for __________________ technique?" "It's in my book available on Amazon." I also saw a high school RBs coach write a book on the 4-2-5 and never shares one lick of defensive related material. Basically just drew a defense for dummies. I need to get into the book business and self promote. I've created so many templates and crap over the years that someone will buy it. Rant over. There is nothing wrong with someone trying to make money on social media. I do feel bad for the younger guys that get swindled by the know nothings though. It was really fun when it first started and everyone was sharing ideas and knowledge. I still talk to a few guys I met on there about stuff but I rarely participate on Twitter unless it’s some bullchit. What is a bummer is that some of the free services that I used in the past now come with a fee. |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 25, 2021 8:36:32 GMT -6
I also hate when coaches are preaching and preaching, obtain all of these followers who continue to fluff their ego (OMG congrats coach!!!!) and don't follow back or ever want to share ideas. As if they have some type of online fame. Dude, you aren't Saban, Dabo, Urb, etc. Chill out. Or book guy. Or website subscription guy. "Hey coach, what's that first step look like for __________________ technique?" "It's in my book available on Amazon." I also saw a high school RBs coach write a book on the 4-2-5 and never shares one lick of defensive related material. Basically just drew a defense for dummies. I need to get into the book business and self promote. I've created so many templates and crap over the years that someone will buy it. Rant over. The desire to "build a brand" among some of these guys is repulsive. Unfortunately, there's more of them than there are people who just shut up and do their job IMO. |
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Post by CoachSP on Mar 25, 2021 8:46:55 GMT -6
I also hate when coaches are preaching and preaching, obtain all of these followers who continue to fluff their ego (OMG congrats coach!!!!) and don't follow back or ever want to share ideas. As if they have some type of online fame. Dude, you aren't Saban, Dabo, Urb, etc. Chill out. Or book guy. Or website subscription guy. "Hey coach, what's that first step look like for __________________ technique?" "It's in my book available on Amazon." I also saw a high school RBs coach write a book on the 4-2-5 and never shares one lick of defensive related material. Basically just drew a defense for dummies. I need to get into the book business and self promote. I've created so many templates and crap over the years that someone will buy it. Rant over. There is nothing wrong with someone trying to make money on social media. I do feel bad for the younger guys that get swindled by the know nothings though. It was really fun when it first started and everyone was sharing ideas and knowledge. I still talk to a few guys I met on there about stuff but I rarely participate on Twitter unless it’s some bullchit. What is a bummer is that some of the free services that I used in the past now come with a fee. Yeah, I respect the hustle. I was actually half serious about selling my templates. But, I'm with you about people getting swindled. You can't just buy something without vetting it to see if the knowledge is legit or helpful. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 25, 2021 8:50:20 GMT -6
I also hate when coaches are preaching and preaching, obtain all of these followers who continue to fluff their ego (OMG congrats coach!!!!) and don't follow back or ever want to share ideas. As if they have some type of online fame. Dude, you aren't Saban, Dabo, Urb, etc. Chill out. Or book guy. Or website subscription guy. "Hey coach, what's that first step look like for __________________ technique?" "It's in my book available on Amazon." I also saw a high school RBs coach write a book on the 4-2-5 and never shares one lick of defensive related material. Basically just drew a defense for dummies. I need to get into the book business and self promote. I've created so many templates and crap over the years that someone will buy it. Rant over. The desire to "build a brand" among some of these guys is repulsive. Unfortunately, there's more of them than there are people who just shut up and do their job IMO. We'll never truly know because the "shut up and do your job" guys don't tweet about how awesome they were today about shutting up and coaching football. |
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Post by CS on Mar 25, 2021 8:59:25 GMT -6
There is nothing wrong with someone trying to make money on social media. I do feel bad for the younger guys that get swindled by the know nothings though. It was really fun when it first started and everyone was sharing ideas and knowledge. I still talk to a few guys I met on there about stuff but I rarely participate on Twitter unless it’s some bullchit. What is a bummer is that some of the free services that I used in the past now come with a fee. Yeah, I respect the hustle. I was actually half serious about selling my templates. But, I'm with you about people getting swindled. You can't just buy something without vetting it to see if the knowledge is legit or helpful. The problem is unless you have a pretty decent knowledge of what’s right and wrong then you don’t know who is full of sh!t. On a side note the YouTube “influencers” are killing me. There are some dumb sumbitches making content there |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 25, 2021 9:04:45 GMT -6
#fudgefitness
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Post by CS on Mar 25, 2021 9:08:31 GMT -6
Those videos are epic! The fact that people pay that guy is amazing |
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 25, 2021 9:08:34 GMT -6
Shame on you guys for questioning tweeter users
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Post by CS on Mar 25, 2021 9:09:48 GMT -6
Shame on you guys for questioning tweeter users Not really questioning them. I still use Twitter and think it’s an excellent resource but I also can tell who is full of sh!t and who isn’t |
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Post by somecoach on Mar 25, 2021 9:18:58 GMT -6
Noticing a trend on twitter these days where coaches love to shame/blast others on certain issues. I get arguing schemes and technique. But seems like anytime there are posts dealing with character or culture guys get ripped apart. Saw one recently a successful coach was posting about how a kid could hurt your team if they are skipping classes, bad grades, behavior issues and guy got ripped. Lots of guys going in on making it out to be the coaches fault and blaming them for not being more involved. Boggles my mind how some coaches seem to be moving towards and attitude that the players are infallible and it's us coaches who fail the kids. Like players should never take responsibility or be held accountable. Maybe I am just rambling or getting old but anyone else seem to get that vibe on football twitter lately? Yes I have seen this vibe, football twitter usually stays away from this stuff. But outside of football twitter this is the twitter norm, rip someone else to gain valueless virtue signaling points. |
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Post by Sonofahitch on Mar 26, 2021 11:24:04 GMT -6
I think alot of the slack these coaches are getting are for "subtweeting/shaming" the kids. College coaches, specifically smaller college coaches love to go "We just took a recruit off our board for _____". And people don't like this because of instead of using it as a teaching moment, they just take away his opportunity to go to that college and brag about how that's not the insert team mascot way. Also unrelated but i hate the culture guys posts a lot of it feels very cultish and weird. I like culture stuff and I think it's really important, but you're right about the guys who have a "cult" feel to it. For some of these guys, I want say, "Do you have a family of your own that needs attention?" |
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Post by realdawg on Mar 26, 2021 14:14:33 GMT -6
It’s the culture we live in right now. It has really shown itself during COVID and the current political climate. You can’t disagree with someone and still get along. It’s total BS. You have to hate anyone you disagree with. Me I try to get along with everyone. I think what I think and you probably aren’t gonna do a lot to change it without some pretty compelling evidence. But whatever you think is ok with me too. We just agree to disagree. We can still hang out and talk BS about whatever. Only way I’m not gonna like you is if you are a total douche or a liar. But not everyone is like that
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Post by coachcb on Mar 26, 2021 15:07:20 GMT -6
Social media is toxic. I've tried to ask/answer some scheme questions on Twitter and Facebook just to get ripped.
Keyboard warriors.
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Post by CS on Mar 26, 2021 18:47:59 GMT -6
Social media is toxic. I've tried to ask/answer some scheme questions on Twitter and Facebook just to get ripped. Keyboard warriors. Well we’re they bad questions/answers? That sh!t happens here as well and it’s usually earned |
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