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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 7:58:38 GMT -6
I take back what I said. This guy is wanting to willingly break the rules and looking for ways to not get caught. It is understandable that sometimes there is accounting mishaps in fundraising, having a small slush fund of a couple hundred bucks for breakfast tacos and water. But getting burn phones and paying for housing is another level. But unless he goes to jail, he will get hired again, somewhere. Jail? What laws that carry an incarceration penalty were broken? I don’t pretend to know laws, but if he were found to be fraudulent with non profit funding...and it wouldn’t be just him. |
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Post by blb on Mar 13, 2021 8:01:45 GMT -6
I take back what I said. This guy is wanting to willingly break the rules and looking for ways to not get caught. It is understandable that sometimes there is accounting mishaps in fundraising, having a small slush fund of a couple hundred bucks for breakfast tacos and water. But getting burn phones and paying for housing is another level. But unless he goes to jail, he will get hired again, somewhere. Jail? What laws that carry an incarceration penalty were broken? Embezzlement? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 13, 2021 8:21:55 GMT -6
Jail? What laws that carry an incarceration penalty were broken? Embezzlement? No clue. But just from general awareness, I would be surprised if taking money intended for one thing, and using it to pay for housing for a player receives jail time. Now, if he was personally enriching himself to the tune of whatever limits the statue require for jailing, that would be different. That said, I would be all for jailing him. Seems like a creep. So were the people who crashed the financial world in 2008--I don't think more than 2 or 3 involved received any jail time. |
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Post by vanden48 on Mar 15, 2021 11:23:28 GMT -6
I'm not saying he should go to jail, I'm just saying that unless he does, he will get hired again. I don't think based off of his conversation he broke any laws. But the allegations he made against Kirby Smart and Nick Saban are a pretty big deal.
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Post by bobdoc78 on Mar 15, 2021 12:08:45 GMT -6
It takes two to tango, and in the case of football programs, it takes many more than two. I'm sure that there is more than one guilty party here. When the long hand of money is offered, very few will turn it down. It is easy to look at things from 20,000 feet above and say one thing or another in judgement of other's actions. It is also very easy for the big turd of guilt to roll downhill once wrong doing has been discovered. I'm sure many administrators were more than willing to look away as long as winning was happening and the school looked good in the papers. I'm sure the boosters were more than willing to give out money, as long as nobody asked questions. And I'm sure the coach was more than willing to take as much as could be given, as long as it would help win more games. But when people start digging, somebody has to go to jail, and the most famous name is usually the one that goes down. 95% of coaches on this board will never be able to relate to this situation because schools with these resources are far and few between. But just like in politics, once you take that first handful of cash under the table, the next time is much easier, and much bigger. Not saying I approve of the wrong doing here. But we are not the judge, jury, or executioner. Best thing to do is learn from others mistakes and not repeat them. But even the most honest coaches have used some cash from a fundraiser for a "Slush Fund". Maybe not $15,000, but I know almost every coach I have worked for has had some cash on hand for things. Cash on hand for things? Really? Never in my world. Is that common? |
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Post by 19delta on Mar 15, 2021 19:28:41 GMT -6
But the allegations he made against Kirby Smart and Nick Saban are a pretty big deal. I thought he signed an affidavit basically saying that he made all that stuff up? |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 15, 2021 20:39:56 GMT -6
It takes two to tango, and in the case of football programs, it takes many more than two. I'm sure that there is more than one guilty party here. When the long hand of money is offered, very few will turn it down. It is easy to look at things from 20,000 feet above and say one thing or another in judgement of other's actions. It is also very easy for the big turd of guilt to roll downhill once wrong doing has been discovered. I'm sure many administrators were more than willing to look away as long as winning was happening and the school looked good in the papers. I'm sure the boosters were more than willing to give out money, as long as nobody asked questions. And I'm sure the coach was more than willing to take as much as could be given, as long as it would help win more games. But when people start digging, somebody has to go to jail, and the most famous name is usually the one that goes down. 95% of coaches on this board will never be able to relate to this situation because schools with these resources are far and few between. But just like in politics, once you take that first handful of cash under the table, the next time is much easier, and much bigger. Not saying I approve of the wrong doing here. But we are not the judge, jury, or executioner. Best thing to do is learn from others mistakes and not repeat them. But even the most honest coaches have used some cash from a fundraiser for a "Slush Fund". Maybe not $15,000, but I know almost every coach I have worked for has had some cash on hand for things. Cash on hand for things? Really? Never in my world. Is that common? You're doing it wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 20:58:17 GMT -6
It takes two to tango, and in the case of football programs, it takes many more than two. I'm sure that there is more than one guilty party here. When the long hand of money is offered, very few will turn it down. It is easy to look at things from 20,000 feet above and say one thing or another in judgement of other's actions. It is also very easy for the big turd of guilt to roll downhill once wrong doing has been discovered. I'm sure many administrators were more than willing to look away as long as winning was happening and the school looked good in the papers. I'm sure the boosters were more than willing to give out money, as long as nobody asked questions. And I'm sure the coach was more than willing to take as much as could be given, as long as it would help win more games. But when people start digging, somebody has to go to jail, and the most famous name is usually the one that goes down. 95% of coaches on this board will never be able to relate to this situation because schools with these resources are far and few between. But just like in politics, once you take that first handful of cash under the table, the next time is much easier, and much bigger. Not saying I approve of the wrong doing here. But we are not the judge, jury, or executioner. Best thing to do is learn from others mistakes and not repeat them. But even the most honest coaches have used some cash from a fundraiser for a "Slush Fund". Maybe not $15,000, but I know almost every coach I have worked for has had some cash on hand for things. Cash on hand for things? Really? Never in my world. Is that common? $4k+ every month with no accountability from booster club. That is on top of whatever other money they are putting up. My first job... to be a parent in the booster, he asked, you wrote a check, if you wished to stay a booster. You should absolutely visit these campuses. It’s a business in hs. |
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Post by bobdoc78 on Mar 17, 2021 5:01:09 GMT -6
Wow!
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Post by blb on Apr 15, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Apr 15, 2021 14:44:02 GMT -6
Hey, he mixed the rules up with NCAA, that's all. |
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Post by wingtol on Apr 15, 2021 14:46:35 GMT -6
Hey, he mixed the rules up with NCAA, that's all. I'm wondering how the QB was ineligible at one school, transfers, and then can play in the same state? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 16:04:01 GMT -6
Hey, he mixed the rules up with NCAA, that's all. I'm wondering how the QB was ineligible at one school, transfers, and then can play in the same state? Something to do with residency requirement. You don’t just go down there. There is a giant nothing in the way of things to do. If you spent your adult life in corporate, that’s not for you in most cases. Talking about parents. |
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Post by fantom on Apr 15, 2021 16:28:19 GMT -6
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Post by blb on Apr 28, 2021 13:26:03 GMT -6
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Post by wingtol on Apr 28, 2021 14:02:07 GMT -6
5-3 vote....that says a lot |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 6:43:56 GMT -6
Rumor is he is not in good health.
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Post by larrymoe on May 1, 2021 6:14:36 GMT -6
Rumor is he is not in good health. He has looked terrible the past few years. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 7:05:18 GMT -6
Rumor is he is not in good health. Supporting secret families in different cities and juggling all those other shady activities takes a toll on a man, I suppose. |
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Post by larrymoe on May 1, 2021 16:15:21 GMT -6
Rumor is he is not in good health. Supporting secret families in different cities and juggling all those other shady activities takes a toll on a man, I suppose. I figured it was more the cancer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 19:58:38 GMT -6
Supporting secret families in different cities and juggling all those other shady activities takes a toll on a man, I suppose. I figured it was more the cancer. I didn’t know that. In that case, I apologize for making snide remarks at his expense and wish him a fast and thorough recovery. Cancer is nothing to joke about. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 1, 2021 20:11:42 GMT -6
I figured it was more the cancer. I didn’t know that. In that case, I apologize for making snide remarks at his expense and wish him a fast and thorough recovery. Cancer is nothing to joke about. Don't. Plenty of good, honest humans are afflicted and deserve your sympathies and well wishes. From all accounts, he is not one of them. F him and his dishonesty on and off the field. |
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Post by blb on May 13, 2021 5:37:55 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 6:27:52 GMT -6
He has a lot supporters and his own little cult$
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