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Post by coachtua on Dec 24, 2020 14:47:15 GMT -6
We won a state championship a few years back and we had maintenance guys from the district coming and ordering rings. The only games they went to were the regional championship game and the state championship game.
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Post by DLgaDC on Dec 24, 2020 15:46:31 GMT -6
Ha! This is a great thread. I’ve never won a championship but I am married to our head cheer coach and I was imagining telling her that she wouldn’t deserve anything after all the work she puts in to not only make cheer great but great for our team as well! I guarantee she would tell me there is something I want from her that I wasn’t getting!!!!😂😂😂. Our band director is great too. They practice on the parking lot above our field and it gets a little hot on those August days down here in GA.
I would have no problem with them getting stuff, and at the end of the day nobody will take anything away from what your team did just bc they have patches. On your state association website it will have your team listed not theirs if anyone even looks at that.
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 25, 2020 12:33:05 GMT -6
OK, you guys have changed my mind. Everybody deserves a patch. Band, cheerleaders, administration, maintenance, all the fans and alumni, girlfriends of the players, coaches wives, girlfriends of the coaches, ticket takers, chain crew, ball boys, guys that live streams the game, group that lines the field, junior high coaches, little league coaches, store owners that put up signs, Culver's cuz that let the coaches eat free, sportswriters, oh yeah and the players that won the game too...
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 25, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -6
I'm along the same line of thinking as the OP, kind of feel the same, but really what's the big deal? I've been on teams that got fitted for rings and we have several hot dog eaters that basically did nothing for the 4 years of their high school career other than do the dynamic warm up, our speed/agility circuit, and then stand on the sidelines and talk for 2 hours. Their rings said the same thing as the 3 year All State starter.
Funny thing in fact about one of them. I had a coaching buddy who worked at another school nearby and one of the hot dog eaters went to his church. I saw the coach later on after the season was over and he asked, "Does Justin start for y'all?"
And of course my reply was "Hades, no".
Coach said, "Well Justin is telling every girl in his youth group that he not only starts, but is the anchor for the OL." Who knows maybe it got him a little playing time....
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Post by 19delta on Dec 25, 2020 14:08:23 GMT -6
I'm along the same line of thinking as the OP, kind of feel the same, but really what's the big deal? I've been on teams that got fitted for rings and we have several hot dog eaters that basically did nothing for the 4 years of their high school career other than do the dynamic warm up, our speed/agility circuit, and then stand on the sidelines and talk for 2 hours. Their rings said the same thing as the 3 year All State starter. Funny thing in fact about one of them. I had a coaching buddy who worked at another school nearby and one of the hot dog eaters went to his church. I saw the coach later on after the season was over and he asked, "Does Justin start for y'all?" And of course my reply was "Hades, no". Coach said, "Well Justin is telling every girl in his youth group that he not only starts, but is the anchor for the OL." Who knows maybe it got him a little playing time.... ERWs... 😆 |
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Post by bignose on Dec 25, 2020 14:32:38 GMT -6
If they are a part of the group that say: We won, when things go well, but you lost, when things go South," excludes themselves from getting a patch.
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Post by Defcord on Dec 26, 2020 4:05:44 GMT -6
I'm along the same line of thinking as the OP, kind of feel the same, but really what's the big deal? I've been on teams that got fitted for rings and we have several hot dog eaters that basically did nothing for the 4 years of their high school career other than do the dynamic warm up, our speed/agility circuit, and then stand on the sidelines and talk for 2 hours. Their rings said the same thing as the 3 year All State starter. Funny thing in fact about one of them. I had a coaching buddy who worked at another school nearby and one of the hot dog eaters went to his church. I saw the coach later on after the season was over and he asked, "Does Justin start for y'all?" And of course my reply was "Hades, no". Coach said, "Well Justin is telling every girl in his youth group that he not only starts, but is the anchor for the OL." Who knows maybe it got him a little playing time.... ERWs... 😆 And he wasn’t eating sandwiches and riding a bus after the ring |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Dec 26, 2020 7:48:42 GMT -6
OK, you guys have changed my mind. Everybody deserves a patch. Band, cheerleaders, administration, maintenance, all the fans and alumni, girlfriends of the players, coaches wives, girlfriends of the coaches, ticket takers, chain crew, ball boys, guys that live streams the game, group that lines the field, junior high coaches, little league coaches, store owners that put up signs, Culver's cuz that let the coaches eat free, sportswriters, oh yeah and the players that won the game too... Culver's guy at least deserves a jersey to hang up |
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Post by 19delta on Dec 26, 2020 8:36:29 GMT -6
And he wasn’t eating sandwiches and riding a bus after the ring  |
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Post by freezeoption on Dec 27, 2020 11:11:55 GMT -6
The more that feel they a part of your program the better. I guess that is how I feel. I use to believe in your thinking and every situation is different. Back a long time ago I was rebuilding a wrestling program at a school. I started a youth program to feed my middle school and high school programs. If I hadn't the program was going to die. I let girls wrestle which at that time had never been done at that school. Girls were not allowed to wrestle in middle school or high school back then. I supported my reasoning to the administration as these girls would go to matches and cheer on the team when they got older and when they had kids they would probably back the idea of their kids wrestling.
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Post by spartan on Dec 27, 2020 12:44:45 GMT -6
Everyone contributes to winning no matter their part. Everyone shares in the win. Its better to share the win that way you can hold them accountable when you fall on hard times.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 30, 2020 18:17:40 GMT -6
I almost forgot when I 1st got into coaching, the school brought in a new HC to try turn things around. He was a guy out of FLA that was known for building programs. One of his 'buy ins' for the kids when he came in was to promise the seniors if they jumped on board and lead the team that he would buy them state championship ring when the program won it's 1st state championship.
Now a couple of things... those seniors never got and will never get that ring. ANNNND the HC never unpacked his boxes and was gone by Christmas.
However, I always thought that was an interesting sell to try and get buy in by the group that probably has the least interest in changing things.
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Post by CoachSP on Jan 5, 2021 14:40:33 GMT -6
I'm along the same line of thinking as the OP, kind of feel the same, but really what's the big deal? I've been on teams that got fitted for rings and we have several hot dog eaters that basically did nothing for the 4 years of their high school career other than do the dynamic warm up, our speed/agility circuit, and then stand on the sidelines and talk for 2 hours. Their rings said the same thing as the 3 year All State starter. This is not necessarily directed at you, but this comment made me think about coaches who don't always show any love to the sandwich eaters. Don't we want buy in from the hot dog eaters though? Should they not have pride in that ring? Do we want buy in only from the kids who can help us? |
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Post by silkyice on Jan 5, 2021 14:50:13 GMT -6
I'm along the same line of thinking as the OP, kind of feel the same, but really what's the big deal? I've been on teams that got fitted for rings and we have several hot dog eaters that basically did nothing for the 4 years of their high school career other than do the dynamic warm up, our speed/agility circuit, and then stand on the sidelines and talk for 2 hours. Their rings said the same thing as the 3 year All State starter. This is not necessarily directed at you, but this comment made me think about coaches who don't always show any love to the sandwich eaters. Don't we want buy in from the hot dog eaters though? Should they not have pride in that ring? Do we want buy in only from the kids who can help us? This might not directly apply, but I think it is worth the 2 minute read no matter what. medium.com/kelly-lytle/it-dont-cost-nothing-to-be-nice-a-bear-bryant-story-b28f10c9e1e4Don't forget that one of those people that might not "deserve a ring" but get one, just might help you somehow someday. |
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Post by somecoach on Jan 7, 2021 23:28:27 GMT -6
Congrats Coach!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 15:17:56 GMT -6
This is not necessarily directed at you, but this comment made me think about coaches who don't always show any love to the sandwich eaters. Don't we want buy in from the hot dog eaters though? Should they not have pride in that ring? Do we want buy in only from the kids who can help us? This might not directly apply, but I think it is worth the 2 minute read no matter what. medium.com/kelly-lytle/it-dont-cost-nothing-to-be-nice-a-bear-bryant-story-b28f10c9e1e4Don't forget that one of those people that might not "deserve a ring" but get one, just might help you somehow someday. I have heard that story before, and its a great story. THANKS! |
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Post by cfoott on Jan 11, 2021 8:04:39 GMT -6
I almost forgot when I 1st got into coaching, the school brought in a new HC to try turn things around. He was a guy out of FLA that was known for building programs. One of his 'buy ins' for the kids when he came in was to promise the seniors if they jumped on board and lead the team that he would buy them state championship ring when the program won it's 1st state championship. Now a couple of things... those seniors never got and will never get that ring. ANNNND the HC never unpacked his boxes and was gone by Christmas. However, I always thought that was an interesting sell to try and get buy in by the group that probably has the least interest in changing things. Did it work? |
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 11, 2021 8:08:57 GMT -6
update - we had our awards ceremony this weekend and it was great. We are a small school with 29 players but the ended up spending a ton on patches. We were champions in two conferences as well as district and state champions. That makes for a lot of patches as well as the state medal. And to the victors go the spoils so many of players received post season recognition at various levels. Rings to come in mid-February. Still can't wipe the smile from my face.
This was an awards presentation (not banquet because of covid) for football so I don't know when or how the band and cheerleaders will receive their awards.
Now comes the time to prepare for next season. We'll have a target on our backs but return six starters on offense and seven on defense. Excited to see what next year holds...
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 11, 2021 8:16:31 GMT -6
I almost forgot when I 1st got into coaching, the school brought in a new HC to try turn things around. He was a guy out of FLA that was known for building programs. One of his 'buy ins' for the kids when he came in was to promise the seniors if they jumped on board and lead the team that he would buy them state championship ring when the program won it's 1st state championship. Now a couple of things... those seniors never got and will never get that ring. ANNNND the HC never unpacked his boxes and was gone by Christmas.However, I always thought that was an interesting sell to try and get buy in by the group that probably has the least interest in changing things. Did it work? see above |
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 11, 2021 8:17:49 GMT -6
I almost forgot when I 1st got into coaching, the school brought in a new HC to try turn things around. He was a guy out of FLA that was known for building programs. One of his 'buy ins' for the kids when he came in was to promise the seniors if they jumped on board and lead the team that he would buy them state championship ring when the program won it's 1st state championship. Now a couple of things... those seniors never got and will never get that ring. ANNNND the HC never unpacked his boxes and was gone by Christmas. However, I always thought that was an interesting sell to try and get buy in by the group that probably has the least interest in changing things. Did it work? and I high tailed it out of there after that season too |
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