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Dec 16, 2020 17:40:46 GMT -6
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Post by CoachF on Dec 16, 2020 17:40:46 GMT -6
Hello,
I’m really looking for anything related NDSU anyone can share. They’ve been dominant. I’ve seen some things offensively; and I love their A gap power, but I’d be interested in their defensive structure or program notes; S&C stuff. Thanks in advance.
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Dec 17, 2020 5:44:39 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 17, 2020 5:44:39 GMT -6
Hello, I’m really looking for anything related NDSU anyone can share. They’ve been dominant. I’ve seen some things offensively; and I love their A gap power, but I’d be interested in their defensive structure or program notes; S&C stuff. Thanks in advance. I think being NDSU is the primary reason for their success. They have the 2nd highest winning percentage of any school in the country established after 1894 (oklahoma #1). Since 1964 they have a winning percentage of .788. More recently, since moving to Div 1 (Fcs) in 2004 they are 181-35 (.838) under 3 different coaches. The two coaches from that time who left (Bohl and Klieman) have not seen the same successes at other locations as of yet. Bohl is below .500 at Wyoming and Klieman a shade above it at Kansas State. |
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Dec 17, 2020 7:43:18 GMT -6
Post by CoachF on Dec 17, 2020 7:43:18 GMT -6
I don't doubt a lot of their success is coming off of tradition and believing/knowing they can win. However, they did make a transition from D-II to D-1AA in 2004. Bohl was at the head of that transition. Not that their D-II success didn't count for anything.
I would also imagine (I have never been a part of something that successful) that it is more difficult than we give them credit for to maintain that kind of success. No different than say, Alabama, yes they have the best players, yes they are great year in and year out, but I think we are doing them a disservice if we imply that it is easy to maintain that kind of success.
You're right, those guys have struggled away from NDSU. It takes awhile to build something though (time, something not given to pretty much any BCS coach). So maybe you are right, maybe it is just the tradition or situation up there that allows them to be successful.
Just wondering if anyone has any insight!
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Dec 17, 2020 8:00:05 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 8:00:05 GMT -6
It goes way beyond the hc. The support systems in place at an NDSU is surreal. Same goes for the power programs at hs level.
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Dec 17, 2020 11:51:26 GMT -6
Post by coachcb on Dec 17, 2020 11:51:26 GMT -6
NDSU has built a tradition that draws the attention of kids who could potentially be playing in the Big 10 and Big 12. They draw some of the best FCS level talent as well as quality kids that could be playing at bigger schools.
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Post by agap on Dec 17, 2020 12:06:20 GMT -6
NDSU has built a tradition that draws the attention of kids who could potentially be playing in the Big 10 and Big 12. They draw some of the best FCS level talent as well as quality kids that could be playing at bigger schools. I was going to say the same thing. They're getting players who are getting Big 10 offers from teams like Minnesota and going to NDSU instead. Then they develop them once they're there. |
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Dec 17, 2020 19:23:09 GMT -6
Post by coachd5085 on Dec 17, 2020 19:23:09 GMT -6
I don't doubt a lot of their success is coming off of tradition and believing/knowing they can win. However, they did make a transition from D-II to D-1AA in 2004. Bohl was at the head of that transition. Not that their D-II success didn't count for anything. I would also imagine (I have never been a part of something that successful) that it is more difficult than we give them credit for to maintain that kind of success. No different than say, Alabama, yes they have the best players, yes they are great year in and year out, but I think we are doing them a disservice if we imply that it is easy to maintain that kind of success. You're right, those guys have struggled away from NDSU. It takes awhile to build something though (time, something not given to pretty much any BCS coach). So maybe you are right, maybe it is just the tradition or situation up there that allows them to be successful. Just wondering if anyone has any insight! They do seem to give a great deal of credit to their S & C program. Not sure of any particulars. |
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