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Post by sena021 on Dec 1, 2007 20:33:18 GMT -6
Hello, I was wondering about the Passing Mechanics of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I mean it is kinda sorta a little different than most. I appreciate any contributions!
Thank You!
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Post by theprez98 on Dec 1, 2007 20:40:39 GMT -6
Hello, I was wondering about the Passing Mechanics of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I mean it is kinda sorta a little different than most. I appreciate any contributions! Thank You! That's a bit of a broad question (actually, it's not really a question at all...). Do you have anything specific you're looking for?
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Post by sena021 on Dec 1, 2007 20:42:30 GMT -6
Not really , just analyzation(is this a word?) on their certain passing mechanics.
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Post by htownoc on Dec 3, 2007 8:19:13 GMT -6
Manning is the example we use with our qbs. He always has proper ball placement and security. He always keeps his feet hot going through his progression. These are our two main points of emphasis with our qbs. Not that its the best way- its just what we do.
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Post by coachm on Dec 3, 2007 9:26:35 GMT -6
From the video I have of them, they're two different styles. Manning more compact. If you see him, he has a shorter reach for a man his size than Brady who is longer and slightly lower with his elbow.
They both get the job done!
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Post by spreadattack on Dec 3, 2007 12:41:40 GMT -6
I'll take either, please.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 3, 2007 15:01:17 GMT -6
Both have similarities that may not be immediately obvious. Both move in the pocket well with a pursuing mentality. In other words, they are "attacking" in their mindset, not avoiding. They pursue space to make a throw, not avoid defenders.
They both have great extension in their release, that overcomes whatever issues they may have in a particular throw with their feet. Their lightning fast decision making is probably the most impressive similarity. They are completely unafraid to pull the trigger in tight spaces. They can locate away from defenders and throw their receivers open.
Both get their elbow to similar launch points(zero position), but the largest difference is in the wrist angle to the elbow in the motion. Brady is wider than Manning. Peyton has seen the value of being compact in getting his wrist through more vertically. The reason he is more vertical has to do with his prepass wrist position being loaded or "co$cked". This loading of the wrist carries a wealth of benefit that helps Peyton overcome some of the athleticism issues he gives up to Brady(mobility, quickness, etc) But, that angle creates the opportunity for this type of release(more compact, etc.). The benefit to this approach is the increased speed of release, consistency of rotation, and immediate velocity(zip). Brady will lose
Peyton's footwork is more frantic, or footfire, than Brady's wider stance and shuffle approach. I believe both concepts are effective and should be taught based on the route package called. Brady goes down the field more consistently than Manning, and he is served by the movement he makes. Manning's footfire and compact release fits the "get rid of the ball faster" offensive concepts.
My point is that in teaching concepts of arm control, you can get the QB to understand how to support that with a few concepts, namely the footfire, and timed shuffle approaches. Joe Montana, was probably the only one I have seen that could seamlessly go back and forth between those two concepts. I would say Steve Young would be there as well. Since the WCO is served by the timing of release to drop speed, the rhythm of the footwork ties in to that. So it makes sense that these guys are similar.
The disciplines of both of these players is impressive - Peyton and Tom are both mentally tough on a level that reminds me of the previous generation of great QBs in the 80s.(Montana, Young, Marino, Elway)
Just my take.
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Post by airman on Dec 3, 2007 15:11:04 GMT -6
i was watching a colts game and they broke mannings passing mechanics down. when he first came he was much more wider in his release.
they colts are the ones who changed a lot of what he does. they focused on holding the ball higher and tigther.
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