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Post by hlb2 on Nov 12, 2020 9:16:59 GMT -6
Elaborate on your answers if you could too. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 9:26:44 GMT -6
Our ad has no business being AD. And our Hc does all the ad paperwork anyways. County says hfbc cannot be AD.
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Post by QBCoachDurham on Nov 12, 2020 9:30:38 GMT -6
I am the AD and HFB Coach. I handle the scheduling, but I also handled it when I was just the HFB coach.
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 12, 2020 11:03:43 GMT -6
I marked "other" because our AD and HC sort of both do it. Our system is a little weird in Iowa though as the state association actually does the scheduling. What schools do is provide a list of teams they want to play and the state does it's best (or not some would argue) to match teams that have requested each other. So, our AD and HC put together the "wish list" to submit to the state.
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Post by CS on Nov 12, 2020 19:22:41 GMT -6
Our AD coached at the school before Jesus walked the earth. Can barely use a cell phone let alone fill out stuff on a computer. Great guy though and is a buffer for crazy parents
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Post by jml on Nov 13, 2020 6:17:53 GMT -6
Our district mandates who we play, the AD and HC handle the scheduling of when we play them.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 13, 2020 8:51:23 GMT -6
Our Head Coach does the scheduling of out of region games with suggestions from admin... our region schedule is set by governing body and a draw at region meeting
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 13, 2020 8:51:37 GMT -6
Our Head Coach does the scheduling of out of region games with suggestions from admin... our region schedule is set by governing body and a draw at region meeting
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 13, 2020 8:59:21 GMT -6
In SC, regions/classification are determined by the League Office.
Then the regions will decide how the region games are set up. Most of the time each region opponents will play each other once and then the schools will set up their own non-region games. Sometimes if similar region (size/classification wise) have an odd number of members, 2 regions will agree to cross bracket with each other for the team that doesn't have a region game that week during region time (last half or so of season depending on the size of the regions) that doesn't count as region game.
Some of our smaller schools that have geographically isolated regions will all play each other twice during the season; once as a non-region game and once as a game that counts towards the playoffs. But that would be a region/school agreement.
ADs might have some input in terms of presenting the simple economics of needing a certain gate game to help float the athletic budget, but mostly it is HCs the determine the schedule.
I don't know of any school that has booster club influence other that maybe somebody saying, "You know what Coach? We ought to play so-and-so, that would be a good game..."
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Post by coachcb on Nov 13, 2020 9:06:48 GMT -6
Our state high school sports governing body has a rotating master schedule for all classifications in football. They're in charge of the varsity schedule. The AD's have the authority to schedule some varsity games outside of that schedule. Depending on the classification, the ADs handle various levels of lower level (i.e. JV) scheduling. Sometimes, the varsity schedule dictates who the JV (and under) play, sometimes the AD handles it.
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Post by cqmiller on Nov 13, 2020 10:01:11 GMT -6
The league schedule is put together by the state association, which I'm sure is the same for everyone... but any game that is not part of our conference I have 100% control over. Home/Away which opponent, everything.
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 13, 2020 10:50:18 GMT -6
Our AD coached at the school before Jesus walked the earth. Can barely use a cell phone let alone fill out stuff on a computer. Great guy though and is a buffer for crazy parents LOL! Funny, I haven't seen you in the hallways!
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Post by chipprjonz10 on Nov 13, 2020 11:31:53 GMT -6
Our Section dictates who we play and when. The head coach/AD has no say who we play. Head coach/AD can only change a game from say a Friday night to a Saturday afternoon/night if both teams agree for homecoming or Senior Night.
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Post by carookie on Nov 13, 2020 11:43:52 GMT -6
So Cal, league sets league schedule (HC/AD) take care of the rest- which is how most schools out here do it.
When I was in Arizona thats how it was for a while, but right after I moved out they changed it where the state scheduled all games. Got rid of leagues, and schedules were based almost entirely on travel budget- save $ on gas I suppose. I hope they don't do it like that anymore.
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Post by CanyonCoach on Nov 14, 2020 21:04:21 GMT -6
A group of AD's sits down and lays it out for the entire state, conference and non-conference. If 2 schools agree not to play for some reason as long as it is a non-conference game they are allowed to do so.
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Post by somecoach on Nov 18, 2020 8:33:19 GMT -6
League has final say, HC/AD can make a "suggestion" at meetings, but its all up to the league.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 18, 2020 10:36:25 GMT -6
When y'all say league, do y'all mean the STATE association? and by games the WHOLE season? So there are schools that have NO control over game that don't even matter for qualifying for the playoffs?
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Post by chipprjonz10 on Nov 18, 2020 12:37:41 GMT -6
In Public High Schools here in the state of New York, not counting Long Island or NYC (they have their own championships/leagues), we have 11 "Sections". These "Sections" are not the "State Association." So my specific Section determines who we play and makes the entire season's schedule. Not sure if this how the other "Sections" around NY do it, but I think they do... The State Association determines when the "State" playoff games between the winners of each Section will be played and where the games will be played.
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Post by hlb2 on Nov 18, 2020 15:03:54 GMT -6
In FL 5A and above sets the districts and regions. Districts will give you anywhere from 3-8 games. The remaining are up to the school how they choose to schedule. 4A and below schedule at random with no districts.
At the school I'm at now the AD does a bulk of the scheduling with little input from the head coach and a LOT of input from both the admin and the school board. Seems assanine to me that the head football coach has little control over his schedule. Very similar to the Bill Parcells grocery shopping comment from years ago.
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Post by Footballguy on Nov 18, 2020 16:10:43 GMT -6
At our school the AD makes our schedule, from my understanding he only consults with me about potential preseason games. Our AD is also going to coach our JV, so that is a plus for me.
At my previous stops it was our AD.
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Post by resdeal on Nov 22, 2020 9:49:07 GMT -6
The simple answer is that our AD does with input from the HC. But it's not that simple. The state athletic association establishes our districts. That establishes 5 of our 8 regular season games. The other 3 games are almost always league games. The league has a matrix that determines which teams will play each other. In the event we have to find a non league game in the first 3 weeks, the HC and AD try to find a game. In 20 seasons I don't remember playing a non league opponent in the first part of the season though.
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Post by blb on Nov 22, 2020 9:54:41 GMT -6
In our state typically the conferences set up league schedules and individual schools (ADs) schedule their own non-league or OOC games.
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Post by fantom on Nov 22, 2020 12:42:39 GMT -6
Ours is more complicated to explain than it is to do.
In Virginia our districts are established by the state but as far as I know pretty much every school is in the district that they want to be in. Our district has almost the same schools now as it did when I got there in 1977. The district's administrator who handles each sport sets the district schedule but only as far as scheduling what week we play.
There are ten schools in the district so that only leaves one out of district game. The HC generally sets up that game and the school AD finalizes the deal.
Actual times and dates are set by the city ADs. Only one school in the district has it's own field. Four of the schools share one city stadium and five share another. After the games are slotted by week the city ADs assign the dates and times.
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Post by knight9299 on Nov 22, 2020 13:57:19 GMT -6
The state association sets the districts up and leaves individual schools to go fill out the non-district schedule. Our HC and AD work together to get that part done.
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Post by fballcoachg on Nov 22, 2020 17:26:27 GMT -6
I’m more confused now than ever before.
Do some of you not have out of conference/league/region games
I’m also not sure why anyone besides the head coach would decide who you play in the out of conference. Yes, works with the AD on logistics, but I’m assuming most ADs don’t know your personnel, the other team, or what your needs are for the season. Ours shoots ideas all the time, most times w zero comprehension of why his suggestions are real bad ideas outside of having the same opening. (Ex. Sending us a state power when we are replacing everyone, sending us a team that is multiple divisions lower, etc).
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Post by mc140 on Nov 23, 2020 1:28:46 GMT -6
Non conference games are scheduled by the AD. Though only one in 17 years ever scheduled a game against the wishes of the head coach. Everyone else has worked with the HC on the decision. Unless they were asked for a buy game. Those have always been vetoed.
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Post by realdawg on Nov 23, 2020 11:36:46 GMT -6
In NC the state sets the conferences-anywhere between 5-10 teams in a conference. The conference then meets to set the conference schedule for each sport. Then it is up to the schools to arrange non conference games. Usually the HC finds the non conference games and the AD puts the rubber stamp on them.
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Post by bluboy on Nov 28, 2020 9:55:54 GMT -6
We have a league scheduling committee comprised of athletic directors, some who do not know if a football is inflated or filled with rocks....
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Post by kylem56 on Nov 28, 2020 11:55:02 GMT -6
In my stops in Ohio and Michigan it has been the AD and Head Coach working together for non conference games. The conference games are on a rotating basis every 2 years.
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Post by famar on Dec 25, 2020 22:48:26 GMT -6
In New Jersey, the state association sets the classifications (5 public school groups and 3 private school groups) and each of the leagues makes their divisions and schedules. Most of the non-divisional games in New Jersey are crossover games with teams in other divisions within your league, most of them are predetermined by your league. The notable exceptions are the big private schools in North Jersey (St. Peter's Prep, Don Bosco, St. Joseph Regional, Bergen Catholic, Paramus Catholic, DePaul) that play games against high-profile out of state opponents.
Scheduling of games has been a point of contention for 20+ years in New Jersey, such that the big private schools in North Jersey play very few if any public schools in New Jersey, and the presence of prominent private school programs in South Jersey delayed one league's entrance into a super conference for 5 years. Now the biggest issue is equity in scheduling.
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