kirk
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Post by kirk on Nov 11, 2020 12:27:13 GMT -6
We went from being a very disciplined on field team (execution, doing what you are supposed to be doing) to undisciplined team. I am at a small school so finding someone that can "DO THE JOB" is not always that easy. What are some things that you do to create more discipline/execution/get the job done mentality with your team?
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Post by nicku on Nov 11, 2020 12:37:35 GMT -6
Scheme wise, are the youngsters you are fielding right now, as a whole, capable of doing your scheme well?
Sometimes kids can learn the scheme, then know the scheme really well...but just can't do it. It's the inverse of super talented kids not being able to execute because they have no idea what the hell to do.
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Post by coachscdub on Nov 11, 2020 14:56:11 GMT -6
The only thing that comes to mind is to go really slow, and get back to the fundamentals.
So lets say your base play is power.
-Line up all 11 in their spots
-Have either the OC or the position coaches go to each individual kid and go over every thing you want them to do
For example, on Power Right
I would go to the RT, and tell him.
-Blocking rule(s)
-Footwork
-Blocking technique
-Hand placement
-Eye location
and then work my way down to the RG,C,LG,LT, etc
you don't have to do this for every single play, but maybe focus on what your base plays are, or, the plays that keep getting messed up the most.
Same thing would apply for the defensive side of the ball as well.
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Post by aceback76 on Nov 11, 2020 15:09:40 GMT -6
We went from being a very disciplined on field team (execution, doing what you are supposed to be doing) to undisciplined team. I am at a small school so finding someone that can "DO THE JOB" is not always that easy. What are some things that you do to create more discipline/execution/get the job done mentality with your team? Remember that "DISCIPLINE PRECEDES MORALE". Put some starch in your backbone & insist upon it (enforce it )! You can't win without it, and once it is lost, it is very difficult to get back! Be realistic in what you ask from them, but hold them accountable to GIVE it (concentration, attention to detail, etc.). Hire only assistants that are good disciplinarians! |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 11, 2020 15:49:28 GMT -6
Scheme wise, start with as simple a base as you can (offensively and defensively) and don't move forward until they can execute those base schemes in their sleep. That base should have enough tools in the box to keep you competitive for the first couple of games but should be very, very basic.
For example, we walked into the first game of one season with one formation, the Buck and Belly series, three slant concepts, and two sprint outs. Defensively, we had 3 coverages (including goal line C0), 3 fronts (including a goal line) and ZERO stunts. We lost that first game but a) it was closer than it should've been and b) no one can say we didn't execute.
We saw that the kids could execute that base in a game so we slowly added in scheme. And, I do emphasize SLOWLY. The next week, we installed the Jet series (basically only ran trap and and waggle..), 3 under/3 Deep coverage and two simple stunts. We didn't execute those stunts well during the game so we added nothing new the next week, defensively. Our jet sweep sucked so we repped that.
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 11, 2020 16:26:43 GMT -6
We went from being a very disciplined on field team (execution, doing what you are supposed to be doing) to undisciplined team. I am at a small school so finding someone that can "DO THE JOB" is not always that easy. What are some things that you do to create more discipline/execution/get the job done mentality with your team? When kids stop having fun...they begin going through the motions. It may be an indicator that they're done. Has anything happened to cause this? |
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Post by Defcord on Nov 11, 2020 17:39:27 GMT -6
We went from being a very disciplined on field team (execution, doing what you are supposed to be doing) to undisciplined team. I am at a small school so finding someone that can "DO THE JOB" is not always that easy. What are some things that you do to create more discipline/execution/get the job done mentality with your team? When kids stop having fun...they begin going through the motions. It may be an indicator that they're done. Has anything happened to cause this? I think kids having fun is something that is drastically under appreciated. We try to build everything around kids wanting to be at football. |
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 11, 2020 19:59:22 GMT -6
When kids stop having fun...they begin going through the motions. It may be an indicator that they're done. Has anything happened to cause this? I think kids having fun is something that is drastically under appreciated. We try to build everything around kids wanting to be at football. That's true. After all...it's a game. Games are supposed to be fun. It's our job to make everything about this business fun for them. If you're not having fun you can quit, or you can finish it by just going through the motions because your hearts' not in it. Sometimes we coaches take these things too seriously. We forget that it's THEIR team. We work for them. If they didn't want to have a team, we'd be out of work...and that is sad if we let them down. |
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kirk
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Post by kirk on Nov 11, 2020 22:35:58 GMT -6
We went from being a very disciplined on field team (execution, doing what you are supposed to be doing) to undisciplined team. I am at a small school so finding someone that can "DO THE JOB" is not always that easy. What are some things that you do to create more discipline/execution/get the job done mentality with your team? When kids stop having fun...they begin going through the motions. It may be an indicator that they're done. Has anything happened to cause this? Haha, Covid! A few other things, the last 2 years we were great and those senior classes were studs. This year we opted up a classification and didn't have as much talent, had to start some young kids, and I think we all got too comfortable up top |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 4:01:03 GMT -6
Winning is fun, discipline is love. Enforcement maintains discipline. discipline is not chasing kids away.in fact just the opposite
To the OP, if you are a teacher, just do what you do in the classroom. Get the kids in a routine, get them in and out of drills, periods. And go back to basic.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 12, 2020 10:49:48 GMT -6
Whatever you tolerate you will receive in abundance. Don't tolerate kids checking out mentally. Make it less enticing to check out by having practices that are focused on the skill you're trying to develop and have some element of fun.
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Post by kylem56 on Nov 14, 2020 1:05:18 GMT -6
We are in a similar boat this year... Alot of guys have already said this but KEEP IT SIMPLE!
Some other lessons I have learned in similar situations
-Don't bring up with them your comparison's to last years team or the last really good team
-FILM PRACTICE and point out coaching points instead of re-doing plays over and over
-Find opportunities to make practice more game like even if its just a 10 minute period here or there per day
-Do not let up on the little things. From the way they leave the locker room at the end of practice to how they warm up
-Above all else, they better know you care about them before you tighten all the screws
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Post by aceback76 on Nov 15, 2020 11:27:39 GMT -6
From Players' Offensive Handbook (has also been used as one of our weekly "Morale Messages"):
DISCIPLINE: Discipline keeps you from acquiring bad habits that will, in turn, hurt you and the team's performance. Your discipline will give you the strength to overcome adversity.
MENTAL DISCIPLINE:
a. You must be mentally ready to play as well as being physically ready to play.
b. You must stay away from mental mistakes. A mental mistake by one player can cost the team a touchdown or stop a drive.
c. Mental mistakes usually result in not concentrating in meetings, practice or not studying handouts.
d. Learn your assignments and take pride in doing so.
PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE:
a. Discipline yourself to stay in shape in and out of season.
b. Be disciplined to play with the minor aches and pains of the game. Know the difference between pain and injury.
CONSISTENCY:
a. This is the key to being a great player or having a great team.
b. Playing your best and holding together under all circumstances game after game.
c. Work to be consistent every day. Improve and you will be more than consistent - will consistently improve!
INTENSITY: Giving your best at all times. Give a total commitment to the job you are doing. Don't let up when you are ahead, and don't give up when you are down.
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