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Post by dblwngr on Nov 2, 2020 19:57:00 GMT -6
I wouldn't make any crucial decisions based on anything this crazy covid year has had to offer.
If you have the ability to come back, may want to give it another go without the other challenges this particular year has had looming on a daily basis.
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 2, 2020 20:45:37 GMT -6
Everyone knows this profession is tough at times. Not everyone goes from rags to riches as far as turning a program around. Year four of our rebuild and we were competitive in all but one of our games after two miserable 1-8 season with not much talent. Finished 3-5 with two tough OT losses. Not a rich tradition of winning here but the community is very impatient. History of bailing on coaches quickly. 10 HC in 22 years. All of our programs have struggled in the past five years. Couple BOE members vocal about making a change. Part of the gig I guess. For those that have been in similar situations, when did you know it was time for a change of scenery? Did you stick it out until the end or leave on your own accord? So you were: 1/8 "...with not much talent". Then 1/8 "...with not much talent". Then 3/5 with 2 OT losses. Probably because you don't have much talent, I assume. So, In 3 years your team is 5/21? Usually when I hear this lament, it's often accompanied by... "We have low numbers, no depth, and lots of injuries", and something about the culture of the community... I suppose all of your opponents were loaded with D1 talent, right? Well...If this sounds to you like you're "...turning a program around..." then stick with it and see what happens. Who knows. Maybe next year you'll get a whole bench-full of talent. Then there's an old saying my Grandpa used to tell me..."It's a poor carpenter who blames his tools". |
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Post by wingtol on Nov 3, 2020 6:38:29 GMT -6
If you're asking....it's time.
Low numbers can make a huge difference in HS football. We've been there the last few years. The other team doesn't need to have D1 talent everywhere if you are playing the same 13 kids all game and they have better numbers and can get 3-4 or more kids off the field each side of the ball or special teams. Then the talent difference makes a huge impact on the game.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 3, 2020 7:05:39 GMT -6
Not a rich tradition of winning here but the community is very impatient. History of bailing on coaches quickly. 10 HC in 22 years. All of our programs have struggled in the past five years. Couple BOE members vocal about making a change. It's time and I think you know it just based on this information. |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 3, 2020 8:14:48 GMT -6
Don't make any decisions now; everyone is a bit fried this time of year. Hold off a few months and evaluate where you stand.
To me, it sounds like you're turning the program around and doing good things. However, you need to ask yourself a few things:
1. Can the program continue on an upward trajectory or will it stay lower-middle tier?
2. If the program hits it's potential in the middle tier, are you alright with that?
3. Most importantly, do you want to keep hammering away to turn the program around? Especially if you're going to deal with a difficult school board.
In my first HC gig, we took a program that hadn't won a game in 5 years. We ended up winning the games we should and playing close games against most everyone else. But, I always felt that was the ceiling for that team; 2-3 wins each year and maybe squeak into the playoffs here and there. For me, the time and energy we were putting forth to get the program there wasn't worth it. I never expected the program to be a championship contender but would've been content with being a playoff contender every year. That just wasn't in the cards.
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Post by Defcord on Nov 3, 2020 8:54:51 GMT -6
It sounds like you had a relatively successful season.
Can you continue to grow the program? Can that growth lead to more wins? Can you tolerate the school board's criticisms?
I hated being a head coach and the deciding factor to make a change was the frustration I had for everything not football. I loved being on the field with kids. I loved Friday nights (I loved them more when we won, but I loved them all). I loved breaking down the film and the team meetings.
But I dreaded booster meetings, AD meetings, grade checks, teacher emails, physicals, eligibility...just all of the stuff that came along with it. Our administration was neutral. They liked us but didn't really want to support changes to build the program. Had they been against us, it would have been worse.
There will always be negatives to the job so you have to evaluate if they outweigh the positives or the other way around.
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Post by hlb2 on Nov 12, 2020 11:31:22 GMT -6
Was there an initial thread to this thing that's missing now? Hard to follow.
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Post by blb on Nov 12, 2020 11:55:45 GMT -6
It's time to go when you and the kids aren't having any fun, you or the program have grown stagnant, or you can't fix the problems.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 14, 2020 6:15:29 GMT -6
Was there an initial thread to this thing that's missing now? Hard to follow. Yes- the original poster probably asked that his initial post be deleted |
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