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Post by fantom on Oct 14, 2020 12:45:23 GMT -6
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Post by blb on Oct 14, 2020 12:58:51 GMT -6
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Post by carookie on Oct 14, 2020 13:18:54 GMT -6
Look, I don't know anything involved with these situations more than what is posted on the stories here; but there is a part of me that is concerned of the virtue signaling that may be involved in canceling an entire season. That concern comes from having seen situations in the past.
To cancel an entire season, in my mind, the vast majority of the team has to have been involved one way or another with the hazing, so many so that if you kicked them all off you couldnt field a team. That may be the case here, but in my experience that is not usually how it is.
If it is not the case, then we are essentially taking away a season from many innocent parties in the name of virtue signaling. So the powers that be can point to the cancelation and say, 'this shows we don't tolerate wrong doing.' When really what it shows is you are willing to punish the innocent to make yourself seem better.
Like I began with, I don't know the specifics, but I have seen other cases that seem similar, and it is pointing that direction for me.
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Post by fantom on Oct 14, 2020 13:37:08 GMT -6
Look, I don't know anything involved with these situations more than what is posted on the stories here; but there is a part of me that is concerned of the virtue signaling that may be involved in canceling an entire season. That concern comes from having seen situations in the past. To cancel an entire season, in my mind, the vast majority of the team has to have been involved one way or another with the hazing, so many so that if you kicked them all off you couldnt field a team. That may be the case here, but in my experience that is not usually how it is. If it is not the case, then we are essentially taking away a season from many innocent parties in the name of virtue signaling. So the powers that be can point to the cancelation and say, 'this shows we don't tolerate wrong doing.' When really what it shows is you are willing to punish the innocent to make yourself seem better. Like I began with, I don't know the specifics, but I have seen other cases that seem similar, and it is pointing that direction for me. I don't know what happened but the last line in the WNEP story, that counselors were available, seems like whatever happened is pretty serious. I know that town well. It's definitely not a bastion of liberalism. It's hard core Pennsyltucky. |
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Post by carookie on Oct 14, 2020 16:01:18 GMT -6
Look, I don't know anything involved with these situations more than what is posted on the stories here; but there is a part of me that is concerned of the virtue signaling that may be involved in canceling an entire season. That concern comes from having seen situations in the past. To cancel an entire season, in my mind, the vast majority of the team has to have been involved one way or another with the hazing, so many so that if you kicked them all off you couldnt field a team. That may be the case here, but in my experience that is not usually how it is. If it is not the case, then we are essentially taking away a season from many innocent parties in the name of virtue signaling. So the powers that be can point to the cancelation and say, 'this shows we don't tolerate wrong doing.' When really what it shows is you are willing to punish the innocent to make yourself seem better. Like I began with, I don't know the specifics, but I have seen other cases that seem similar, and it is pointing that direction for me. I don't know what happened but the last line in the WNEP story, that counselors were available, seems like whatever happened is pretty serious. I know that town well. It's definitely not a bastion of liberalism. It's hard core Pennsyltucky. I saw that too, and am in no way trying to diminish the severity of what possibly occurred; mine is more with the extent the hazing was spread throughout the team in numbers. If it were a few kids involved, why not just remove the few kids and allow the rest to continue? Once again, its all speculative on my behalf, but it bothers me that a season had to get called for this. |
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Post by wingtol on Oct 16, 2020 5:18:44 GMT -6
Look, I don't know anything involved with these situations more than what is posted on the stories here; but there is a part of me that is concerned of the virtue signaling that may be involved in canceling an entire season. That concern comes from having seen situations in the past. To cancel an entire season, in my mind, the vast majority of the team has to have been involved one way or another with the hazing, so many so that if you kicked them all off you couldnt field a team. That may be the case here, but in my experience that is not usually how it is. If it is not the case, then we are essentially taking away a season from many innocent parties in the name of virtue signaling. So the powers that be can point to the cancelation and say, 'this shows we don't tolerate wrong doing.' When really what it shows is you are willing to punish the innocent to make yourself seem better. Like I began with, I don't know the specifics, but I have seen other cases that seem similar, and it is pointing that direction for me. I don't know what happened but the last line in the WNEP story, that counselors were available, seems like whatever happened is pretty serious. I know that town well. It's definitely not a bastion of liberalism. It's hard core Pennsyltucky. Yeah being from PA and knowing how hard core they take football at Mount Carmel there has to be a serious issue involved for them to do this. And also I would point out there are a small school team so it could very well involve most of the team, this isn't some huge school with 80 dudes on the team looks like 35 on their roster. |
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