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Post by Defcord on Sept 19, 2020 6:41:06 GMT -6
We had our first defensive shutout at the school I am currently at but lost by a TD because we gave up a pick 6.
Was proud of the kids but it sucked pretty spectacularly.
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Post by aceback76 on Sept 20, 2020 8:13:05 GMT -6
We had our first defensive shutout at the school I am currently at but lost by a TD because we gave up a pick 6. Was proud of the kids but it sucked pretty spectacularly. Learned a long time ago that in order to win, you must control at LEAST 2 of the 3 areas to the game (offense, defense, kicking game). A "truism".
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Post by blb on Sept 20, 2020 8:40:10 GMT -6
Can't win if you can't score.
Great example of why Football is TEAM game.
In meantime work on your interception defense (j/k), and remember you are allowed to score on DEFENSE too.
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Post by Coach.A on Sept 20, 2020 10:05:56 GMT -6
You need be careful when one side of the ball experiences great success while the other side struggles. If it isn't managed properly it can create division amongst the staff and/or players. As blb said, it is a TEAM game.
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Post by coachdubyah on Sept 20, 2020 10:37:00 GMT -6
You need be careful when one side of the ball experiences great success while the other side struggles. If it isn't managed properly it can create division amongst the staff and/or players. As blb said, it is a TEAM game. Unless of course most of your kids play both ways... LOL
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 20, 2020 11:45:07 GMT -6
We had our first defensive shutout at the school I am currently at but lost by a TD because we gave up a pick 6. Was proud of the kids but it sucked pretty spectacularly. That's why I always say, that if you give up a pick 6 the points should be taken away from the offense..so in my mind you lost 0 to -6 thus preserving your ave PPG
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 20, 2020 16:09:24 GMT -6
In 2008 we gave up 13 points in the first 3 weeks of the season and went 1-2.
THAT was hard to swallow as a DC.
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Post by wolverine55 on Sept 20, 2020 18:45:59 GMT -6
You need be careful when one side of the ball experiences great success while the other side struggles. If it isn't managed properly it can create division amongst the staff and/or players. As blb said, it is a TEAM game. Unless of course most of your kids play both ways... LOL I was the playcaller for our JV team and we were REALLY struggling offensively but our defense was shutting them out into the 3rd quarter when they got a pick six. The DC starts yelling at the top of his lungs, "That's okay offense! We'll score the points too!!" We literally only dressed 16-17 kids for JV that season so everybody played both ways, lol
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Post by Defcord on Sept 20, 2020 19:33:29 GMT -6
We had our first defensive shutout at the school I am currently at but lost by a TD because we gave up a pick 6. Was proud of the kids but it sucked pretty spectacularly. Learned a long time ago that in order to win, you must control at LEAST 2 of the 3 areas to the game (offense, defense, kicking game). A "truism". We are a really young team. It may take us all three phases to win one, but I do agree with you.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 20, 2020 19:35:47 GMT -6
Can't win if you can't score. Great example of why Football is TEAM game. In meantime work on your interception defense (j/k), and remember you are allowed to score on DEFENSE too. I buy kids a steak dinner if they score on defense (the kid that scores only...teacher salary). We usually get three or four a year. Wish I was buying some beef this week.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 20, 2020 19:38:40 GMT -6
You need be careful when one side of the ball experiences great success while the other side struggles. If it isn't managed properly it can create division amongst the staff and/or players. As blb said, it is a TEAM game. I agree. We are all in it together. Just wasn’t a fun experience for any of us.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 20, 2020 19:42:09 GMT -6
In 2008 we gave up 13 points in the first 3 weeks of the season and went 1-2. THAT was hard to swallow as a DC. That’s pretty insane. We have had our ups and downs on both sides so I know for every time like this we will probably have 42-35 game to balance it out but I had never lost a game before where we didn’t give up an offensive TD
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Post by aceback76 on Sept 20, 2020 20:07:35 GMT -6
Learned a long time ago that in order to win, you must control at LEAST 2 of the 3 areas to the game (offense, defense, kicking game). A "truism". We are a really young team. It may take us all three phases to win one, but I do agree with you. Best wishes! Just keep their MORALE up, & they'll come along!
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Post by Defcord on Sept 21, 2020 4:12:36 GMT -6
We are a really young team. It may take us all three phases to win one, but I do agree with you. Best wishes! Just keep their MORALE up, & they'll come along! Thank you sir
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 21, 2020 6:58:02 GMT -6
In 2008 we gave up 13 points in the first 3 weeks of the season and went 1-2. THAT was hard to swallow as a DC. That’s pretty insane. We have had our ups and downs on both sides so I know for every time like this we will probably have 42-35 game to balance it out but I had never lost a game before where we didn’t give up an offensive TD Ya. We held 6 teams to 12pts or less during the season and went 4-5. Best defense I ever coached. Week 1 we won and held the opponents to -25yds of total offense. It was like playing video game football on easy.. They got 1 first down. Because our DE jumped offside. We ran 3 different offenses (wing-t, double wing and spread) the first 4 weeks of the season. During a game Week 8 (we were 3-4 and fighting for our playoff lives) we ran middle screen on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. All incomplete. It wasn't a fun year overall.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 21, 2020 11:40:15 GMT -6
That’s pretty insane. We have had our ups and downs on both sides so I know for every time like this we will probably have 42-35 game to balance it out but I had never lost a game before where we didn’t give up an offensive TD Ya. We held 6 teams to 12pts or less during the season and went 4-5. Best defense I ever coached. Week 1 we won and held the opponents to -25yds of total offense. It was like playing video game football on easy.. They got 1 first down. Because our DE jumped offside. We ran 3 different offenses (wing-t, double wing and spread) the first 4 weeks of the season. During a game Week 8 (we were 3-4 and fighting for our playoff lives) we ran middle screen on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. All incomplete. It wasn't a fun year overall. Hopefully, that is not what is ahead of us. That's unreal.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 21, 2020 15:22:58 GMT -6
It was a rough year. There were several issues in that program that were brought to a head that season.
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Post by Victor on Sept 25, 2020 7:05:53 GMT -6
That’s pretty insane. We have had our ups and downs on both sides so I know for every time like this we will probably have 42-35 game to balance it out but I had never lost a game before where we didn’t give up an offensive TD Ya. We held 6 teams to 12pts or less during the season and went 4-5. Best defense I ever coached. Week 1 we won and held the opponents to -25yds of total offense. It was like playing video game football on easy.. They got 1 first down. Because our DE jumped offside. We ran 3 different offenses (wing-t, double wing and spread) the first 4 weeks of the season. During a game Week 8 (we were 3-4 and fighting for our playoff lives) we ran middle screen on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. All incomplete. It wasn't a fun year overall. Hey, coach, do you mind to share, please, what were the reasons the offense didnt click? Roster's depth?
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 25, 2020 9:29:37 GMT -6
Ya. We held 6 teams to 12pts or less during the season and went 4-5. Best defense I ever coached. Week 1 we won and held the opponents to -25yds of total offense. It was like playing video game football on easy.. They got 1 first down. Because our DE jumped offside. We ran 3 different offenses (wing-t, double wing and spread) the first 4 weeks of the season. During a game Week 8 (we were 3-4 and fighting for our playoff lives) we ran middle screen on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. All incomplete. It wasn't a fun year overall. Hey, coach, do you mind to share, please, what were the reasons the offense didnt click? Roster's depth? Playcalling and design. Without beating around the bush- our HC who was also OC didn't know what he was doing.
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Post by pvogel on Sept 25, 2020 10:10:42 GMT -6
That’s pretty insane. We have had our ups and downs on both sides so I know for every time like this we will probably have 42-35 game to balance it out but I had never lost a game before where we didn’t give up an offensive TD Ya. We held 6 teams to 12pts or less during the season and went 4-5. Best defense I ever coached. Week 1 we won and held the opponents to -25yds of total offense. It was like playing video game football on easy.. They got 1 first down. Because our DE jumped offside. We ran 3 different offenses (wing-t, double wing and spread) the first 4 weeks of the season. During a game Week 8 (we were 3-4 and fighting for our playoff lives) we ran middle screen on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down. All incomplete. It wasn't a fun year overall.
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Post by pvogel on Sept 25, 2020 10:12:31 GMT -6
First 2 times I coached on a team where ONE kid ran for 300 yards we lost.
First two! 4 years apart! Different schools! Wtf!
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Post by Defcord on Sept 25, 2020 10:40:26 GMT -6
First 2 times I coached on a team where ONE kid ran for 300 yards we lost. First two! 4 years apart! Different schools! Wtf! That's a rough outing!
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Post by 44dlcoach on Sept 25, 2020 10:48:30 GMT -6
I played on a team in HS where our RB ran for 270 yards and broke the school rushing record and we got shut out.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 7, 2020 10:58:09 GMT -6
You need be careful when one side of the ball experiences great success while the other side struggles. If it isn't managed properly it can create division amongst the staff and/or players. As blb said, it is a TEAM game.
Absolutely...
Last season, in two key conference games last year, our defense performed well. The defense was on the field for an exorbitant number of snaps (i.e. on the field for 100+ snaps and only gave up 12 points). We scored several times on INTs and fumbles as well. But, the offense wasn't producing and the kids turned on the OC in a hurry which was a mess to clean up.
We cleaned up the offense and then lost a shoot-out in what was our most important conference game of the year... The offense fired on all cylinders and racked up a ton of points but we couldn't stop anything defensively. And, the opposing offense only put together two decent drives; their scores were off of major mistakes by the defense.
Given the bipolar nature of our losses, the kids lost faith in both the offense and the defense...
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 8, 2020 5:54:44 GMT -6
I played on a team in HS where our RB ran for 270 yards and broke the school rushing record and we got shut out. A few years ago we had a string of injuries that hit our backfield especially hard (QB and #1 RB lost for the season, #2 and #3 RBs out for big chunks of the year too) game 6 or 7 we have to play our Slot WR at RB. Kid was a wrestler and a hell of a fine blocker(we were "spread to run" *rolls eyes). Anyway, if you count yards to where he fumbled the ball the kid had over 300 yds on the night, but he had 4 fumbles. He had at least 5 or 6 runs over 40 yards with most ending in fumbles ending in fumbles. We also ran a lot of 2 back 3 wide and ran our HBack(TE - 6'4" 225) run the ball and he probably chipped in another 50-60 yds on 4-5 carries. We DOMINATED our opponent but our RB couldn't hold on to the ball. We lost something like 21-14 with 2 passing TDs.
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Post by fantom on Oct 11, 2020 14:08:44 GMT -6
In college we lost a game 7-6 after the opponents scored on a NCAA D.3 return on the opening kickoff (Not as impressive as it sounds. It was the first year of D.3). That didn't get the defense off of the hook. After all, were the the guys on that historic kickoff team.
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Post by blb on Oct 11, 2020 15:56:00 GMT -6
Not to play "I Can Top That" but we lost a game 6-0 on a blocked FG return.
We make it, we win. They blocked it-ran it back, we lose.
I can never remember winning a game where WE only scored on defense though.
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Post by Defcord on Oct 11, 2020 20:54:50 GMT -6
Not to play "I Can Top That" but we lost a game 6-0 on a blocked FG return. We make it, we win. They blocked it-ran it back, we lose. I can never remember winning a game where WE only scored on defense though. Ouch!
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 15, 2020 11:46:06 GMT -6
I was coaching at a school that routinely was a contender. They also had a JV team that hadn’t lost a game in several years. One Thursday the HC & the OC couldn’t ride the bus and were driving down together. They got in a bad car wreck and never showed up to the game. A young guy that was the “assistant OC” (a 21 year-old kid that was a former player for the varsity HC) was thrust into the HC/OC role. He was absolutely terrible at it but he saw it as his chance to shine. The defense was lights out but the offense literally could not move the ball – I think they had less than 40 yards for the whole game. The O-line coach kept trying to make play calls but the kid wouldn’t let him. They eventually lost 2-0 when a punt pinned them on the 2 yard line and they got stuffed. There were a TON of people that were furious over it and the guy earned the nickname “Safety”. That was about 12 years ago and people still call him Safety. The kid is now a very good OC but I don’t think he’ll ever shake it.
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Post by wolverine55 on Oct 15, 2020 12:17:06 GMT -6
I did coach in a JV game where we won 18-14 (or something like that, I just remember we had 18) and our three TDs all came on defensive returns.
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