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Post by dacoachmo on Feb 25, 2008 21:36:55 GMT -6
I remember seeing this somewhere...
An Offense should have...
Motion/Shifting
Unbalanced
Option
what else?
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Post by knighter on Feb 25, 2008 22:35:44 GMT -6
Trap and Wedge! LOL
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Post by ramsoc on Feb 25, 2008 23:02:32 GMT -6
Someone who knows what the hell they're doing calling the plays..
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 25, 2008 23:05:24 GMT -6
Balanced formations and R&S concepts  |
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Post by coach79 on Feb 26, 2008 0:41:02 GMT -6
Balance, not 50/50 run, pass balance, but the ability to be balanced.
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Post by coachlu on Feb 26, 2008 1:19:33 GMT -6
TALENT
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Post by morris on Feb 26, 2008 6:26:28 GMT -6
coverdale's Preseaon Planning DVD I think answers all these questions. It is not going to tell you the plays to run but it does walk you through a detailed approach to how to look at your offense.
Now Urban Meyer was quoted once as saying something along the lines of wanting to do all the things defenses hate which were
unblanced
empty
option
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Post by tog on Feb 26, 2008 7:06:07 GMT -6
a simple list of blocking schemes that can be executed against multiple fronts and pressures for both run and pass
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Post by lochness on Feb 26, 2008 7:46:20 GMT -6
A structure and a foundation.
1. This is our base play.
2. This is what we do if you adjust to take that base play away
- counters
- blocking scheme modifications
- playaction pass
It amazes me how some offenses that we see don't have a true design to them. They're not necessarily "grab bag," but they're really no more than a collection of plays.
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 26, 2008 7:50:51 GMT -6
You must have a minimum (and sometimes max) of one way to attack every gap from every formation you are going to run. Or at least the majority of formations. I heard a guy describe this as his "Holy 8 Run Plays." There are 8 gaps, he has 8 runs in his base package but lots of window dressing in terms of formations motions, shifts etc.
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Post by morris on Feb 26, 2008 8:39:19 GMT -6
Do you need 8? The reason I ask that is because some runs attack the same area it just bounces out a gap depending on the defense. We use to have 2 runs that we used most fo the time. For the line and the backs almost every single run from C gap to C gap was the same just the angle was different. Against an odd front attacking the 2 hole (A gap) and the 4 hole (B gap) is the same to us. If it was an even front then the 4 and 6 hole were the same.
There is a book called The Simple Six which I think breaksdown the core of an offense fairly well.
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Post by brophy on Feb 26, 2008 10:30:35 GMT -6
every offense should have competent answer(s) to beating the blitz ( a reason to make sure the defense doesn't tee off on you )
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Post by resnik77 on Feb 26, 2008 10:42:34 GMT -6
The ability to score more points than the opponent. ;D
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Post by dubber on Feb 26, 2008 12:25:18 GMT -6
every offense should have competent answer(s) to beating the blitz ( a reason to make sure the defense doesn't tee off on you ) good point. Every offense also needs to be able to get the ball in the hands of your best players. It's not that hard, if you got a kid like Jonny Sitton (see "small running back" thread in this section), you give him 20+ touches. Good things will then happen to you |
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Post by joelee on Feb 26, 2008 12:38:05 GMT -6
Something to hang your hat on. Then complimentary plays.
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Post by airman on Feb 26, 2008 12:43:01 GMT -6
if you throw the ball, the ability to put 5 rec in 5 different areas both horizontial and vertical on every pass play. it is the corner stone of sid gillman' s pass philosophy who gave it to the nfl.
this does not mean you have to line up in 5 wr or go scat every time either.
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Post by leighty on Feb 26, 2008 17:03:49 GMT -6
Bette rplayers if you hope to beat the other guy.
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Post by coachweav88 on Feb 26, 2008 18:02:36 GMT -6
Piggybacking on Brophy's answer: a way to hurt defenses from putting too many people in the box. They don't have to be blitzing, but it's very hard to get any sort of running game going when there are a ton of people in the box.
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Post by jjkuenzel on Feb 27, 2008 0:27:49 GMT -6
An answer for when you play a team that is bigger
An answer for when you play a team that is stronger
An answer for when you play a team that is faster
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2008 0:29:03 GMT -6
answers period
if they do this, i will do ____________
i always try to think worst case scenario
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Post by midlineqb on Feb 27, 2008 1:16:25 GMT -6
I heard quite a few years back, and still feel it holds true; the toughest things to defense are the unbalanced line and the option. So those are a MUST!
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Post by coachsky on Feb 27, 2008 10:43:15 GMT -6
At least one base running play, that is executed so well, that the defense has to cheat and become fundamentally unsound to stop you.
Then you need to be able to call the right complimentary play to punish them and move them back so you regain the advantage.
One of my favorites is a "hop' to weakside ISO against a 4-3. IF they don't cheat we gain 4 yards a play minimum. When they cheat, we run IZ, QB Keep, or PA. They back it up, and quit stepping down, we hit em again. I am happy to do that all night.
Against some defenses it's not ISO weak, its Power, its Counter Trey, Bend or Trump. Find where they are weak, then play cat and mouse all night.
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Post by raiderpirates on Feb 27, 2008 11:18:56 GMT -6
Bill Walsh and Paul Brown, "What are your openers?" The first group of plays and how they fit in scheme with matchups in mind. Scripted so as to build off the sense of momentum they produce.
That lets you expand the playbook from the great suggestions listed above. Core plays and sets with built in counters.
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Post by raiderpirates on Feb 28, 2008 13:31:19 GMT -6
Openers should always contain key breaks. That anticipates their play calling.
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Post by eickst on Feb 29, 2008 19:02:58 GMT -6
Every offense should have five 350 lb linemen and a 280 lb TE who runs the forty in 4.4
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Post by silkyice on Feb 29, 2008 22:40:15 GMT -6
a toolbox.
i.e. answers for all the situations you will face.
Down & distance - Short yardage, long yardage, medium yardage. Field position - Backed up, goalline, redzone. Time situations - 2 min & finish offense.
Different fronts - # in box and # on front. Different coverages - cover 0, 1, 2, 2 man, 3, 4 or at least man, zone 2 and zone 3. Different philosphies - read & react, attack & spill, blitz, slant.
Ways to get your playmakers the ball.
It sounds like a lot, but certain plays can have multiple roles. For instance wedge can be an answer for short yardage, goalline, backed up, finish offense, any front, any coverage, blitz, slant, attack & spill , read & react, and a way to get your best playmaker the ball.
You just better have a toolbox so that you are prepared for every situation.
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Post by kurtbryan on Mar 1, 2008 11:43:26 GMT -6
Every Offense should have a Great Defense! No sarcasm intended...KB  |
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