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Aug 5, 2020 23:42:02 GMT -6
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 5, 2020 23:42:02 GMT -6
I have a hard time understanding a scenario where in person school is too big a risk but tackle football isn't. That said, to the question of whether or not kids should play football this fall my response is "it depends". Everywhere in the country isn't the same scenario so the answers probably shouldn't be one-size-fits-all. Our state has expressed some willingness to have one portion of the state play in the fall while a harder hit portion of the state postpones until the spring. That hasn't been formally decided yet but it's on the table for us. 2000 plus people vs 50 people? I don't disagree with you--my opinion would be that the in person schooling would come first. But as I mentioned and has been evident in discussion on this site, places are different. 2000 people in a building learning things can be spread out, wear masks, be split into smaller groups, wash their hands repeatedly etc. Two football teams competing on a Friday night can't. If in person schooling with the level of controls available still isn't "safe" then I have hard time getting to the logical conclusion that football would be ok for that same community. I agree that places are different and should be treated different. What's happening at a community/school in Miami is likely to be very different than what's happening where I am, but probably reasonably comparable to what's happening in Las Vegas. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 6:19:49 GMT -6
I have a hard time understanding a scenario where in person school is too big a risk but tackle football isn't. That said, to the question of whether or not kids should play football this fall my response is "it depends". Everywhere in the country isn't the same scenario so the answers probably shouldn't be one-size-fits-all. Our state has expressed some willingness to have one portion of the state play in the fall while a harder hit portion of the state postpones until the spring. That hasn't been formally decided yet but it's on the table for us. I am not going to oppose football at any rate. I will take it whatever way I can get it. That said, as a teacher, if an athlete can play football they can come to school. |
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Aug 6, 2020 7:04:22 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 6, 2020 7:04:22 GMT -6
2000 plus people vs 50 people? I don't disagree with you--my opinion would be that the in person schooling would come first. But as I mentioned and has been evident in discussion on this site, places are different. 2000 people in a building learning things can be spread out, wear masks, be split into smaller groups, wash their hands repeatedly etc. Two football teams competing on a Friday night can't. If in person schooling with the level of controls available still isn't "safe" then I have hard time getting to the logical conclusion that football would be ok for that same community. I agree that places are different and should be treated different. What's happening at a community/school in Miami is likely to be very different than what's happening where I am, but probably reasonably comparable to what's happening in Las Vegas. The viral picture of the packed school hallway in Paulding County Georgia shows that the logistics of the school reopening may be nearly impossible given guidelines. Sure it was obviously just a snapshot of a moment in time, and I would agree it would seem easier to meet guidelines for school than sports. That said I don’t know the guidelines in other areas. I do know that in Louisiana I believe many are unrealistically clinging to the hope that high school football will be played simply because no one has officially canceled the season. With those believers seem to be missing is that when you look at the restrictions and apply them, it does in fact “cancel“ football |
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Post by fantom on Aug 6, 2020 22:11:12 GMT -6
You are a racist for not allowing minority athletes the opportunity to obtain a collegiate scholarship. Welcome to what our state association is dealing with. There is no coming back from that trump card. State now has hands tied and has to make it work somehow. Thus the state and health departments are back tracking on every previous rule or mandate put out on school/sports and Covid. If you don’t support sports, you’re a racist. That’s where MO is at. You could counter that by pointing out how much higher the death rate is for African Americans. |
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Aug 7, 2020 6:06:42 GMT -6
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Post by **** on Aug 7, 2020 6:06:42 GMT -6
You are a racist for not allowing minority athletes the opportunity to obtain a collegiate scholarship. Welcome to what our state association is dealing with. There is no coming back from that trump card. State now has hands tied and has to make it work somehow. Thus the state and health departments are back tracking on every previous rule or mandate put out on school/sports and Covid. If you don’t support sports, you’re a racist. That’s where MO is at. You could counter that by pointing out how much higher the death rate is for African Americans. Ya that’ll work |
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 7, 2020 6:19:54 GMT -6
******. I hadn’t thought of the race card being played by the kc/st. Louis districts. My first thought it was the suburb schools that were pushing for the change. Example when Blue Springs went virtual I thought the policy of not allowing all-virtual schools To play sports would change. It’ll be an interesting autumn. I can’t see how schools can preach social distancing during the school day and then allow football, basketball, wrestling at 3:30.
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Post by coachklee on Aug 7, 2020 6:55:02 GMT -6
2000 plus people vs 50 people? I don't disagree with you--my opinion would be that the in person schooling would come first. But as I mentioned and has been evident in discussion on this site, places are different. 2000 people in a building learning things can be spread out, wear masks, be split into smaller groups, wash their hands repeatedly etc. Two football teams competing on a Friday night can't. If in person schooling with the level of controls available still isn't "safe" then I have hard time getting to the logical conclusion that football would be ok for that same community. I agree that places are different and should be treated different. What's happening at a community/school in Miami is likely to be very different than what's happening where I am, but probably reasonably comparable to what's happening in Las Vegas. Have you ever been in a school? First off, none of the places I’ve taught at have the building space nor the personnel to meaningfully spread students out over more space. Small sizes aren’t getting much smaller than 30 or at best 20 kids (which isn’t much smaller than some teams). This is especially true as the weather changes from summer to cooler/cold rainy fall & eventually winter weather. Second is the general student behavior in hallways unless we are escorting kids in & out of buildings like a bunch of kindergarteners. The rationale of 2000 or 1000 or even 500 kids packed into a building for 6-7 hours as being significantly safer than 100 or 80 or 60 some kids who have been more closely screened for symptoms on a daily basis & typically more disciplined being together for about 2 hours is not necessarily ironclad. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 7:01:07 GMT -6
When you get down to it, with guidelines as they are, Getting kids back to school is and will be an epic fail. Forget athletics. Kids aren’t stupid. Kids dont want to catch it either.
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 7, 2020 7:42:24 GMT -6
I was hoping schools would have only half the students going to school every other day. Schools then would have a better chance of social distancing in classses. Have only seen one school doing that and that is just for the first couple of weeks of school. I really don’t think we can justify having football this fall.
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Aug 7, 2020 8:14:58 GMT -6
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 7, 2020 8:14:58 GMT -6
You obviously haven't taught some of the kids I have. The smart ones will do the right thing. I was hoping we would do the hybrid, I bet we don't. We are thinking about ours staying home while we go off and teach.
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Aug 8, 2020 6:16:29 GMT -6
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 8, 2020 6:16:29 GMT -6
The Missouri Football Coaches Association is polling it’s members whether they want to move the season to the spring.
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Post by jg78 on Aug 8, 2020 6:43:08 GMT -6
The Missouri Football Coaches Association is polling it’s members whether they want to move the season to the spring. I’m going to be honest. I don’t want to play this fall. All the regulations have taken the fun out of it. There comes a point where poor circumstances can make even the things we love miserable. I’m at a small school without a lot of resources and manpower. The kind of school where coaches are often relied upon to do the dirty work that will be greater than normal this year. 8:00-3:00 is going to be stressful enough without football on top of it. I would be just fine stepping away for a year. I am going to get paid the same thing whether we’re undefeated state champs or we don’t play a snap. As for spring, our spring sports had probably 80% of their season last year wiped out by COVID. I don’t know how we justify taking at least part of this spring season to make room for fall sports that had a full season last year. Let me also say that I’m not an alarmist. Not at all. If I were in charge of the world everything would be open and you accept your own risks. If you want to stay home 24/7, do it. If you want to go to a packed concert, do it. But with all the regulations imposed on us, screw all this. |
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Aug 8, 2020 11:54:15 GMT -6
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 8, 2020 11:54:15 GMT -6
I can't believe they will move it but I have been wrong about them before. Spring sports will throw a fit because they got screwed last year.
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Post by Wingtman on Aug 12, 2020 11:44:29 GMT -6
Well, we are 3 days in. Trying our best to social distance (really hard), during meetings/weight room, but kids flock to each other. It happens, its natural for them. I know everyone is doing their best, but dang, its fricken hard to keep them apart. Then of course, you run a team period, or actual practice..can't SD there.
I saw the poll about spring. It's a little late now for that, IMO. Games are supposed to start in 3 weeks. I'm afraid we won't even kick off.
I saw a post, and yes, I agree, I don't really wanna play either. The fun is out of it right now.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 12, 2020 12:29:58 GMT -6
I saw a post, and yes, I agree, I don't really wanna play either. The fun is out of it right now. I bet many of those who “want to play” are thinking that playing means to do so like business as usual. Maybe for the kids that’s more applicable – for the adults it simply won’t be the case I have often said I feel I may have the greatest job in the world as an elementary PE teacher but I don’t wanna go back. Not because no fear of infection, but rather the logistical nightmare standing before educators and school officials will simply take all of the joy out of the job. If I wanted to actually be miserable they are higher-paying positions in which to do that |
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