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Post by coachlit on Jul 15, 2020 8:54:15 GMT -6
The VHSL just met this morning and announced they will make a decision on July 27th* to approve one of these three options for football:
• Holding the high school sports season as they are scheduled. In this scenario, only cross country and golf would be allowed to compete in the fall.
• Switching fall sports and spring sports. In this scenario, all the sports would be able to compete.
• Condensing all three seasons. In this model, the winter season would be first and run from Dec. 14 through Feb. 20, fall sports would run from Feb. 15 through May 1 and spring sports would run from April 12 until June 26.
Welp there it is for me and many others.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 15, 2020 9:49:42 GMT -6
Then I'll ask what I brought up in the other thread, but as applied to Virginia high schools: Do you think schools will try to prevent their students from using their athletic fields for football and soccer (or rugby or Gaelic football, for that matter) in the fall?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 9:54:28 GMT -6
Then I'll ask what I brought up in the other thread, but as applied to Virginia high schools: Do you think schools will try to prevent their students from using their athletic fields for football and soccer (or rugby or Gaelic football, for that matter) in the fall? Yup! |
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Post by 19Gate83 on Jul 15, 2020 10:11:31 GMT -6
The VHSL Meeting will be July 27th.
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Post by coachlit on Jul 15, 2020 10:39:56 GMT -6
The VHSL Meeting will be July 27th. Yeah, something I read originally said the third of August. |
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Post by 19Gate83 on Jul 15, 2020 13:17:49 GMT -6
MODEL 1
Leave sports in their current seasons, but only golf and cross country would be allowed to start in the fall because they fall into the lower to moderate contact category.
As high-risk sports, field hockey, football, volleyball and cheerleading would not play.
MODEL 2
Switch the fall and spring seasons, which means the following low and moderate sports would be allowed to compete in the fall: track and field, tennis, soccer, baseball and softball. Fall sports would be scheduled for the spring.
The high risk-sports, boys and girls lacrosse, would not be allowed to play.
MODEL 3
All sports would remain in the season in which they are currently aligned, but a condensed interscholastic schedule would be adopted as follows:
Season 1 (Winter sports) would run Dec. 14-Feb. 20. The first contest would be Dec. 28.
Season 2 (Fall sports) would run Feb. 15-May 1 with the first contest starting March 1.
Season 3 (Spring sports) would run April 12-June 26 with the first contest starting April 26.
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Notice that none of those models propose including football in the fall.
Interestingly enough, back in May high school coaches in Virginia banded together to form their own coaches association – The Commonwealth Football Coaches Association. Up until that point, high school coaches in Virginia have felt that they didn’t have much of a voice in matters like these.
The football season was scheduled to start in Virginia on July 30th, but that is being delayed until a decision is made on what fall sports will look like when they reconvene to vote on July 27th.
We’ll have to wait until decision day on that July 27th date, but looks like no football in the fall right now for Virginia high schools.
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Post by fadepattern on Jul 16, 2020 13:38:07 GMT -6
Do you think that this plan will cause some hard feeling between football and other sports?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 16, 2020 14:12:46 GMT -6
Then I'll ask what I brought up in the other thread, but as applied to Virginia high schools: Do you think schools will try to prevent their students from using their athletic fields for football and soccer (or rugby or Gaelic football, for that matter) in the fall? Bob.. schools don't allow students (or anyone) to use their athletic fields during non pandemic situations. |
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Post by CS on Jul 16, 2020 14:27:02 GMT -6
Then I'll ask what I brought up in the other thread, but as applied to Virginia high schools: Do you think schools will try to prevent their students from using their athletic fields for football and soccer (or rugby or Gaelic football, for that matter) in the fall? Bob.. schools don't allow students (or anyone) to use their athletic fields during non pandemic situations. I have never worked at a school that didn’t allow the community access to the field and track year round. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 14:45:40 GMT -6
Our field is a bathroom break for the homeless, public and open restroom. No problem there. I can attest that the cops will pull up and give you a warning to get lost, if they see a car. Can also attest to the smell of that public bathroom, like a dead body.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 16, 2020 14:53:39 GMT -6
Bob.. schools don't allow students (or anyone) to use their athletic fields during non pandemic situations. I have never worked at a school that didn’t allow the community access to the field and track year round. So anyone, anytime can just show up and play pick up games on the field? Because I believe that is what bob was referring to based on his previous post. Not an organized "use of" agreement situation. |
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Post by CS on Jul 16, 2020 18:27:12 GMT -6
I have never worked at a school that didn’t allow the community access to the field and track year round. So anyone, anytime can just show up and play pick up games on the field? Because I believe that is what bob was referring to based on his previous post. Not an organized "use of" agreement situation. Yes. On my 5th school and lived in another city where me and my wife used the local track to exercise so 6 schools. Not saying there aren’t schools that close off their facilities. Just I have never heard of one |
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 16, 2020 19:25:16 GMT -6
I think most of the differences lie in whether it's a fancy stadium-style field or just "the field". I went to a prep school where interlopers wouldn't be allowed on the field (middle of campus), but the students could use it any time it was otherwise unoccupied to play on except during some intervals when it was fenced off for reseeding, which didn't happen every year. The rest of the time they wanted us not to cut across it getting to and from the gym, because apparently that traffic wore more heavily on the grass than playing did. So sometimes we'd get out a Spaldeen and toss it to each other while short-cutting across the field, so it'd look like we were playing.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 16, 2020 19:52:53 GMT -6
So anyone, anytime can just show up and play pick up games on the field? Because I believe that is what bob was referring to based on his previous post. Not an organized "use of" agreement situation. Yes. On my 5th school and lived in another city where me and my wife used the local track to exercise so 6 schools. Not saying there aren’t schools that close off their facilities. Just I have never heard of one Track- maybe. But what would happen if you and your wife showed up to walk the track and you saw 16 kids playing a game of tackle football on the game field. Or even practice fields. ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 19:59:18 GMT -6
Yes. On my 5th school and lived in another city where me and my wife used the local track to exercise so 6 schools. Not saying there aren’t schools that close off their facilities. Just I have never heard of one Track- maybe. But what would happen if you and your wife showed up to walk the track and you saw 16 kids playing a game of tackle football on the game field. Or even practice fields. ? i would be the biggest fan. |
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Post by CS on Jul 16, 2020 20:03:10 GMT -6
Yes. On my 5th school and lived in another city where me and my wife used the local track to exercise so 6 schools. Not saying there aren’t schools that close off their facilities. Just I have never heard of one Track- maybe. But what would happen if you and your wife showed up to walk the track and you saw 16 kids playing a game of tackle football on the game field. Or even practice fields. ? Nothing. I’m telling you the facilities are open. I have seen kids playing football games all weekend. Soccer games. Kick ball you name it |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 16, 2020 20:07:41 GMT -6
Track- maybe. But what would happen if you and your wife showed up to walk the track and you saw 16 kids playing a game of tackle football on the game field. Or even practice fields. ? Nothing. I’m telling you the facilities are open. I have seen kids playing football games all weekend. Soccer games. Kick ball you name it Must be field turf I guess. Nice community! Not litigious i guess |
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Post by CS on Jul 16, 2020 20:34:52 GMT -6
Nothing. I’m telling you the facilities are open. I have seen kids playing football games all weekend. Soccer games. Kick ball you name it Must be field turf I guess. Nice community! Not litigious i guess What kind of people live in your area? You talk about lawsuits and tax payers getting mad more than anyone I know. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 16, 2020 21:00:54 GMT -6
Must be field turf I guess. Nice community! Not litigious i guess What kind of people live in your area? You talk about lawsuits and tax payers getting mad more than anyone I know. If someone tripped in a hole and broke a leg on your practice field playing a pick up game, the district wouldn’t be concerned with a lawsuit? Must be nice |
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 3:14:23 GMT -6
What kind of people live in your area? You talk about lawsuits and tax payers getting mad more than anyone I know. If someone tripped in a hole and broke a leg on your practice field playing a pick up game, the district wouldn’t be concerned with a lawsuit? Must be nice Couldn’t tell you. I do know people use the fields and if there was a lawsuit of Any kind I would suspect supes being supes would shut it down. So yeah it’s nice |
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Post by **** on Jul 17, 2020 8:36:25 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 17, 2020 9:02:09 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here. I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? |
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Post by fantom on Jul 17, 2020 9:32:00 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here. I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? We played on a city field and that was definitely not open to the general public. Each school's practice field though was wide open and if kids showed and nobody had reserved it then nobody would chase them away. There are no fences and really no way to stop them. |
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 10:51:43 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here. I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? I'm assuming he thinks it's uncommon to be appalled that kids have pick up football games on the field at the school |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 17, 2020 11:07:52 GMT -6
I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? I'm assuming he thinks it's uncommon to be appalled that kids have pick up football games on the field at the school Who is appalled? I don't think people are appalled by it. I think that they recognize the potential issues from it (be it field damage if grass field, or liability issues) and try to prevent those issues. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 17, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -6
In the 7 schools I coached at over 22 years, zero of them even had practice facilities that could have been closed. None even had a fence around it. Only one even had a way to even close off the game field.
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Post by **** on Jul 17, 2020 12:12:00 GMT -6
I would love to see the community that some of these commentators live in. It sounds like another planet compared to everyone else I know on here. I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? Very common. Taxpayers paid for the schools field and track, thus it’s open for all when not in use by a school program. Private schools are the only ones I know that might keep it locked up. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 17, 2020 12:31:27 GMT -6
I agree. Are you suggesting that having game fields and facilities just open for any and everyone to show up and use is a common thing or uncommon thing? Very common. Taxpayers paid for the schools field and track, thus it’s open for all when not in use by a school program. Private schools are the only ones I know that might keep it locked up. Very different. When you say fields, you aren't talking game fields are you (particularly grass)? Suburban district is a little over 1,100 square miles servicing about 40,000 students throughout 56 schools (8 high schools). larrymoe while the practice fields aren't able to be closed off, the campuses can be. Sure, kids could hop fences and such. While there isn't an active campaign to keep kids off, it is not welcomed. Urban district campuses are are locked up, so those lucky enough to have a patch of grass to practice on have their fields locked up. The rest use public spaces. |
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Post by CS on Jul 17, 2020 13:46:47 GMT -6
Very common. Taxpayers paid for the schools field and track, thus it’s open for all when not in use by a school program. Private schools are the only ones I know that might keep it locked up. Very different. When you say fields, you aren't talking game fields are you (particularly grass)? Suburban district is a little over 1,100 square miles servicing about 40,000 students throughout 56 schools (8 high schools). larrymoe while the practice fields aren't able to be closed off, the campuses can be. Sure, kids could hop fences and such. While there isn't an active campaign to keep kids off, it is not welcomed. Urban district campuses are are locked up, so those lucky enough to have a patch of grass to practice on have their fields locked up. The rest use public spaces. Are you telling me you have worked exclusively in schools that the community wasn’t able to use the field/fields at the school? |
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Post by **** on Jul 17, 2020 13:48:13 GMT -6
Very common. Taxpayers paid for the schools field and track, thus it’s open for all when not in use by a school program. Private schools are the only ones I know that might keep it locked up. Very different. When you say fields, you aren't talking game fields are you (particularly grass)? Suburban district is a little over 1,100 square miles servicing about 40,000 students throughout 56 schools (8 high schools). larrymoe while the practice fields aren't able to be closed off, the campuses can be. Sure, kids could hop fences and such. While there isn't an active campaign to keep kids off, it is not welcomed. Urban district campuses are are locked up, so those lucky enough to have a patch of grass to practice on have their fields locked up. The rest use public spaces. I can go on almost any public game field (grass or turf) I want in the state. If there’s a track with it I definitely can. It would be extremely rare I couldn’t do that. |
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