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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 21:10:28 GMT -6
Who said anything about wearing pads, having adult (or any) officials, or traveling to games? Maybe I misunderstood then. Are you saying that kids organize their own football leagues with no pads, no officials and no traveling to games? So, in other words, your saying "what if the kids play pick up football?" My God the horror. Sorry to be facetious, but me and my friends played pick up ball as often as we could. What's the problem? Why would that be a problem? Are you suggesting that if kids REALIZE they can actually organize games for themselves that it's a threat to organized sports? That's all kids used to do. Yet organized sports flourished to unprecedented and some might even say unhealthy levels. I think it would be AWESOME if kids got back to independence in this area of their lives and see them learning to be self starters as no threat to what we do. It's healthy for kids to host their own games with their friends and it was done that way for CENTURIES. I say more power to them. No daddy ball, no overbearing coach trying to show everybody how smart he is, no ridiculous parents embarrassing themselves and their kids w/ their absurd comments as if Johnny's NFL career hangs in the balance. No dad reliving the old days thru his boy. Sounds beautiful to me. JMO. There is a whole line of thinking, the good ole days if you will, that has disappeared, sadly enough. |
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 17, 2020 18:23:09 GMT -6
Who said anything about wearing pads, having adult (or any) officials, or traveling to games? Maybe I misunderstood then. Are you saying that kids organize their own football leagues with no pads, no officials and no traveling to games? So, in other words, your saying "what if the kids play pick up football?" My God the horror. Sorry to be facetious, but me and my friends played pick up ball as often as we could. What's the problem? Why would that be a problem? Are you suggesting that if kids REALIZE they can actually organize games for themselves that it's a threat to organized sports? That's all kids used to do. Yet organized sports flourished to unprecedented and some might even say unhealthy levels. Sure, but look upthread. What if adult-organized sports (or at least team sports) were prevented from happening for a year...or two...or several? Could it be hard to get them up again if children are meanwhile allowed to conduct their own? But now what about the other possibility: Will adults actively prevent children from gathering to play, saying it's an illegal assembly during the emergency? (Unless you're protesting something, maybe.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 19:28:46 GMT -6
Maybe I misunderstood then. Are you saying that kids organize their own football leagues with no pads, no officials and no traveling to games? So, in other words, your saying "what if the kids play pick up football?" My God the horror. Sorry to be facetious, but me and my friends played pick up ball as often as we could. What's the problem? Why would that be a problem? Are you suggesting that if kids REALIZE they can actually organize games for themselves that it's a threat to organized sports? That's all kids used to do. Yet organized sports flourished to unprecedented and some might even say unhealthy levels. Sure, but look upthread. What if adult-organized sports (or at least team sports) were prevented from happening for a year...or two...or several? Could it be hard to get them up again if children are meanwhile allowed to conduct their own? But now what about the other possibility: Will adults actively prevent children from gathering to play, saying it's an illegal assembly during the emergency? (Unless you're protesting something, maybe.) The irony of anybody suggesting the right to assemble. We can assemble with no fear for political activism, but god forbid kids, who are virtually immune to this, lets stop them. Some could argue they are one in the same. |
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Post by coachklee on Jul 17, 2020 20:02:29 GMT -6
Sure, but look upthread. What if adult-organized sports (or at least team sports) were prevented from happening for a year...or two...or several? Could it be hard to get them up again if children are meanwhile allowed to conduct their own? But now what about the other possibility: Will adults actively prevent children from gathering to play, saying it's an illegal assembly during the emergency? (Unless you're protesting something, maybe.) The irony of anybody suggesting the right to assemble. We can assemble with no fear for political activism, but god forbid kids, who are virtually immune to this, lets stop them. Some could argue they are one in the same. Kids aren’t universally immune... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 20:04:40 GMT -6
The irony of anybody suggesting the right to assemble. We can assemble with no fear for political activism, but god forbid kids, who are virtually immune to this, lets stop them. Some could argue they are one in the same. Kids aren’t universally immune... For the most part, kids are all but immune to real dangers. Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but we are to the far right of the decimal on that. |
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Post by coachklee on Jul 17, 2020 20:08:23 GMT -6
Kids aren’t universally immune... For the most part, kids are all but immune to real dangers. Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but we are to the far right of the decimal on that. Just had a problem with you claiming immunity. The better term is probably “mostly asymptomatic”. Out the 5 people I know who have had this 2 of the 3 in their early 20s were all but asymptomatic. I don’t yet know a person who has tested positive as a teenager or younger although they surely exist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 20:10:19 GMT -6
For the most part, kids are all but immune to real dangers. Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but we are to the far right of the decimal on that. Just had a problem with you claiming immunity. The better term is probably “mostly asymptomatic”. Out the 5 people I know who have had this 2 of the 3 in their early 20s were all but asymptomatic. I don’t yet know a person who has tested positive as a teenager or younger although they surely exist. Let me rephrase. We probably all have it, but the number who are in real danger amongst kids is far right of the decimal. |
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Post by s73 on Jul 17, 2020 22:41:47 GMT -6
Maybe I misunderstood then. Are you saying that kids organize their own football leagues with no pads, no officials and no traveling to games? So, in other words, your saying "what if the kids play pick up football?" My God the horror. Sorry to be facetious, but me and my friends played pick up ball as often as we could. What's the problem? Why would that be a problem? Are you suggesting that if kids REALIZE they can actually organize games for themselves that it's a threat to organized sports? That's all kids used to do. Yet organized sports flourished to unprecedented and some might even say unhealthy levels. Sure, but look upthread. What if adult-organized sports (or at least team sports) were prevented from happening for a year...or two...or several? Could it be hard to get them up again if children are meanwhile allowed to conduct their own? But now what about the other possibility: Will adults actively prevent children from gathering to play, saying it's an illegal assembly during the emergency? (Unless you're protesting something, maybe.) I;m sorry. and seriously not trying to be difficult, I just don't understand what you are trying to ask here. I guess I don't understand the thread. |
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Post by bruinfb on Jul 18, 2020 4:04:27 GMT -6
Sure, but look upthread. What if adult-organized sports (or at least team sports) were prevented from happening for a year...or two...or several? Could it be hard to get them up again if children are meanwhile allowed to conduct their own? But now what about the other possibility: Will adults actively prevent children from gathering to play, saying it's an illegal assembly during the emergency? (Unless you're protesting something, maybe.) I;m sorry. and seriously not trying to be difficult, I just don't understand what you are trying to ask here. I guess I don't understand the thread. Assume your state decides that playing high school and youth football is too dangerous during the pandemic and cancels the season. Then a few weeks later a bunch of kids go outside to a park and start playing pick-up football. Would adults (parents, teachers, police, health officials, selectmen, mayor etc.) go out and tell the boys they can't play pick-up football because it is a banned activity? |
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Post by bruinfb on Jul 18, 2020 4:08:15 GMT -6
To answer the question, I would say that "YES", adults will actively prevent kids from playing on their own.
In my area, we actively stopped pick-up basketball by tying up the nets at all the outdoor courts during April/May. Police even checked on the courts to make sure no games were being played.
I do not think it is "Right", but I could definitely see adults working to discourage kids from playing on their own.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 18, 2020 8:17:23 GMT -6
To answer the question, I would say that "YES", adults will actively prevent kids from playing on their own. In my area, we actively stopped pick-up basketball by tying up the nets at all the outdoor courts during April/May. Police even checked on the courts to make sure no games were being played. I do not think it is "Right", but I could definitely see adults working to discourage kids from playing on their own. If it were a big group, especially on public property, I think I agree with you. If it is 4 kids on a front lawn, probably not. The measures you described, probably had public courts with fairly large attendances? Not 3 kids just passing time, but pretty decent sized groups playing pretty intense ball games? |
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 18, 2020 15:07:37 GMT -6
To answer the question, I would say that "YES", adults will actively prevent kids from playing on their own. In my area, we actively stopped pick-up basketball by tying up the nets at all the outdoor courts during April/May. Police even checked on the courts to make sure no games were being played. I do not think it is "Right", but I could definitely see adults working to discourage kids from playing on their own. If it were a big group, especially on public property, I think I agree with you. If it is 4 kids on a front lawn, probably not. The measures you described, probably had public courts with fairly large attendances? Not 3 kids just passing time, but pretty decent sized groups playing pretty intense ball games? At the beginning of this in March or early April, I remember close to me in NJ (or maybe it was somewhere else -- I read about it, didn't see it) a policeman stopped a solitary child (or maybe adult or teen) from shooting hoops in a public park. All sorts of senseless and arbitrary edicts were being tossed around, like people being forbidden to walk or bike on nature trails, or to golf or use a driving range. It was like, "No doing stuff! No having fun!", without any regard to the purpose of the restrictions in relationship to contagion. They eventually got more reasonable, but even now in the park near me it says, "Park open. Playground closed." And there's tape around the swings. You may have read about the person ticketed in a suburb of Toronto for violating an order during the emergency by stepping off the park thru-path onto a side path leading to a gazebo with her dog and stroller to let an elderly group pass, and then answering her cell phone, resulting in a 10 minute delay. |
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Post by s73 on Jul 20, 2020 15:36:25 GMT -6
I;m sorry. and seriously not trying to be difficult, I just don't understand what you are trying to ask here. I guess I don't understand the thread. Assume your state decides that playing high school and youth football is too dangerous during the pandemic and cancels the season. Then a few weeks later a bunch of kids go outside to a park and start playing pick-up football. Would adults (parents, teachers, police, health officials, selectmen, mayor etc.) go out and tell the boys they can't play pick-up football because it is a banned activity? I think different areas will have different outcomes. I don't think it would happen by me. I'm a Dean and know our police force pretty well. They don't really care unless someone calls to complain. But most of the neighbors around the park my kids and their friends play at are the parents of the kids outside playing so I don't see that happening much. |
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