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Post by arkansasdave1 on Jun 17, 2020 6:53:00 GMT -6
Does anyone else wonder, how schools will really be able to start football, when during the school day kids are social distancing, keeping 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, & only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system.
If by doing this, they are saying it unsafe for students to be in school next to each other, how at 3:00 when school is over can they say “ok you can go play football now” ?
Just curious because that’s what I’m looking at.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 17, 2020 7:00:46 GMT -6
Does anyone else wonder, how schools will really be able to start football, when during the school day kids are social distancing, keeping 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, & only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system. If by doing this, they are saying it unsafe for students to be in school next to each other, how at 3:00 when school is over can they say “ok you can go play football now” ? Just curious because that’s what I’m looking at. To be honest, I don't think they will say "ok you can go play football, crowd together for choir or band, act in the school play on stage together etc. It is going to be interesting to say the least. Sad, but interesting. And there will be many holes in logic, from the medical community and from those trying to administrate organizations. That is the nature of dealing with the unknown. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 7:03:52 GMT -6
Does anyone else wonder, how schools will really be able to start football, when during the school day kids are social distancing, keeping 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, & only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system. If by doing this, they are saying it unsafe for students to be in school next to each other, how at 3:00 when school is over can they say “ok you can go play football now” ? Just curious because that’s what I’m looking at. Yes Sir! There is no way in hell. They want kids to come in the morning for conditioning, go home, come back for school, send them home, then come back for practice. There is no way in hell we are playing football with these regulations. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 7:38:34 GMT -6
We are suppose to play a game august 7th. At this rate, with the dead period coming up, I fully expect an announcement that the season will either be cancelled or done/modified in the spring.
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Post by planck on Jun 17, 2020 8:11:13 GMT -6
I think it's going to be more about priorities than saying school is safe but football isn't. As you note, both will have major issues. But school is the priority, so it'll happen. The assumed additional risk from sports will make sports likely be the first thing to be postponed.
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Post by rystaylo on Jun 17, 2020 8:45:54 GMT -6
Have your states/ districts told you how school will go next year or are u guessing?
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Post by arkansasdave1 on Jun 17, 2020 10:18:24 GMT -6
Have your states/ districts told you how school will go next year or are u guessing? Yes... social distancing, desks 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, Students only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 10:23:02 GMT -6
Have your states/ districts told you how school will go next year or are u guessing? Yes... social distancing, desks 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, Students only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system. You tell me how that is going to work? No chance in H-E-L-L. |
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Post by rystaylo on Jun 17, 2020 10:34:15 GMT -6
I’m assuming you are in Arkansas? Our district just sent out an email to parents/ teachers and surveyed how comfortable we are going back.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jun 17, 2020 11:25:29 GMT -6
If they were handling this rationally knowing what we now know about SARS-COV2, they'd be trying to encourage the virus to get around the school age population as fast as possible, and just have them stay away from their grandparents. Some teachers would need to be isolated too, so the best thing would be to have upperclassmen teach courses as monitors for at least the fall semester. Once the kids have all, or almost all, had the infection, then older and sicker adults would be safe to mingle with them again.
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Post by arkansasdave1 on Jun 17, 2020 12:05:29 GMT -6
I’m assuming you are in Arkansas? Our district just sent out an email to parents/ teachers and surveyed how comfortable we are going back. Virginia |
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Post by **** on Jun 17, 2020 13:11:16 GMT -6
We are either going to school as normal and pretend covid is gone or we’re not going back. There won’t be any gray.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 17, 2020 13:25:50 GMT -6
We are either going to school as normal and pretend covid is gone or we’re not going back. There won’t be any gray. i think there will a little gray, but I do think you are more right than most of the state and district level are with their projections |
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Post by **** on Jun 17, 2020 18:43:35 GMT -6
We are either going to school as normal and pretend covid is gone or we’re not going back. There won’t be any gray. i think there will a little gray, but I do think you are more right than most of the state and district level are with their projections It will be Onyx or White. |
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Post by huddlehut on Jun 17, 2020 19:00:22 GMT -6
I hope that I'm wrong, but I really can't see any state it local school district administrators or state athletic associations wanting to stand up and take the heat if/when things go to crap in the fall. Hate to say it, but I don't think that any of us will be playing football (HS football) this season.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jun 17, 2020 19:08:07 GMT -6
All we can do, is control what we can control. If they're saying we're allowed to play football, I know me and the kids are there to do that. If that means I have to wear a mask while doing it, so be it.
If all of a sudden there's a spike and the seasons becomes an unmanageable mess and they have to cancel it. Well I have no control over that.
Just going to follow the guidelines as they're laid out, utilize best practices, and like every season, try to win a state championship.
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Post by fantom on Jun 17, 2020 21:10:33 GMT -6
We are suppose to play a game august 7th. At this rate, with the dead period coming up, I fully expect an announcement that the season will either be cancelled or done/modified in the spring. You have a game August 7th? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 21:11:46 GMT -6
We are suppose to play a game august 7th. At this rate, with the dead period coming up, I fully expect an announcement that the season will either be cancelled or done/modified in the spring. You have a game August 7th? what I been told |
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Post by utchuckd on Jun 18, 2020 10:54:36 GMT -6
If they don't ease the current guidelines after we come back from dead period I don't see how we play. Practice starts the end of July and if we aren't full go by then how can we get ready for a season after that?
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Post by agap on Jun 18, 2020 21:23:47 GMT -6
Yes... social distancing, desks 6 ft apart, not eating in cafateria anymore, having buses in morning & evening half capacity, Students only going to school for half a week (other half “virtual learning”) with a staggered system. You tell me how that is going to work? No chance in H-E-L-L. Minnesota is looking at doing something similar. Either we're doing what he described, everyone will be in the building everyday, or nobody will be in the building at all. We'll know by the end of July. |
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Post by 53 on Jun 18, 2020 21:46:32 GMT -6
Right now our plan in Tennessee seems to just be open as normal
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 19, 2020 17:35:00 GMT -6
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Post by lochness on Jun 20, 2020 21:51:12 GMT -6
Football is far and away my favorite sport. I gave more than 20 years to coaching, and lots more before that to playing. The benefits are immeasurable and kids really need the experiences and learnings that come with the game.
All that said, I'm also not (completely) stupid. I'm 100% opposed to having football this season. Makes no sense. I'm not going to be selfish and wish it were different just because I love football. Yes, it sucks...but it's really the only option. Locker rooms, huddles, team meetings, team meals, fund raisers, bus rides, line of scrimmage play, tackling, close-quarters drills, fans in the stands, equipment sanitization....there's just no frigging way any of that makes sense in this environment. And then what happens if one kid gets sick in-season? Your whole frigging team shuts down for 2 weeks...not to mention your last two opponents?
I'm sure that won't be a popular opinion.....but that's how I feel.
This would be my oldest son's first year of tackle. We aren't letting him play. He'll be heartbroken....but he will be safe.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 20, 2020 21:55:17 GMT -6
We are either going to school as normal and pretend covid is gone or we’re not going back. There won’t be any gray. This is where I am at too, at least logistically. I've seen this idea of a hybrid model floated that would cut my classes in half where I'd see kids every other day. On paper this is brilliant. Now, we are potentially offering boomers a buyout leaving younger teachers. Logistically it's going to be almost impossible to have your younger teaching staff in school every day when our kindergarten aged kids aren't. There is this, among a plethora of other issues. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 20, 2020 21:56:49 GMT -6
Football is far and away my favorite sport. I gave more than 20 years to coaching, and lots more before that to playing. The benefits are immeasurable and kids really need the experiences and learnings that come with the game. All that said, I'm also not (completely) stupid. I'm 100% opposed to having football this season. Makes no sense. I'm not going to be selfish and wish it were different just because I love football. Yes, it sucks...but it's really the only option. Locker rooms, huddles, team meetings, team meals, fund raisers, bus rides, line of scrimmage play, tackling, close-quarters drills, fans in the stands, equipment sanitization....there's just no frigging way any of that makes sense in this environment. And then what happens if one kid gets sick in-season? Your whole frigging team shuts down for 2 weeks...not to mention your last two opponents? I'm sure that won't be a popular opinion.....but that's how I feel. This would be my oldest son's first year of tackle. We aren't letting him play. He'll be heartbroken....but he will be safe. I don't see how we have it. In Michigan we are clear to resume practices. For us that means throwing based off MHSAA rules. I justk now we're going to put in all this time and might even make it a few weeks into the season before a kid tests positive and we shut this boy down. Week 2 or 3 at best. This coming from a guy who doesn't know what he's gonna do without being able to coach ball. |
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Post by lochness on Jun 20, 2020 22:02:51 GMT -6
Football is far and away my favorite sport. I gave more than 20 years to coaching, and lots more before that to playing. The benefits are immeasurable and kids really need the experiences and learnings that come with the game. All that said, I'm also not (completely) stupid. I'm 100% opposed to having football this season. Makes no sense. I'm not going to be selfish and wish it were different just because I love football. Yes, it sucks...but it's really the only option. Locker rooms, huddles, team meetings, team meals, fund raisers, bus rides, line of scrimmage play, tackling, close-quarters drills, fans in the stands, equipment sanitization....there's just no frigging way any of that makes sense in this environment. And then what happens if one kid gets sick in-season? Your whole frigging team shuts down for 2 weeks...not to mention your last two opponents? I'm sure that won't be a popular opinion.....but that's how I feel. This would be my oldest son's first year of tackle. We aren't letting him play. He'll be heartbroken....but he will be safe. I don't see how we have it. In Michigan we are clear to resume practices. For us that means throwing based off MHSAA rules. I justk now we're going to put in all this time and might even make it a few weeks into the season before a kid tests positive and we shut this boy down. Week 2 or 3 at best. This coming from a guy who doesn't know what he's gonna do without being able to coach ball. It really is tough, but if anyone thinks logically about it, playing football makes absolutely no sense with the way this virus works. It's crazy. Just HUDDLING and LINING UP puts kids and their families at risk (can't socially distance offensive huddles, linemen, or DBs in press coverage), let alone the spit and snot and breath and sweat that is exchanged between kids on every single play or in every single drill for two straight hours. I mean, heck...we are doing youth baseball right now and you need 7feet of space in the dugouts just to be compliant. I'd like to see football with 7 foot OL splits and a 7foot neutral zone. Not to mention QB/RB mesh drills and how interesting that will be now. We'll need a pair of long grill tongs to hand the ball off. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 20, 2020 22:05:25 GMT -6
I don't see how we have it. In Michigan we are clear to resume practices. For us that means throwing based off MHSAA rules. I justk now we're going to put in all this time and might even make it a few weeks into the season before a kid tests positive and we shut this boy down. Week 2 or 3 at best. This coming from a guy who doesn't know what he's gonna do without being able to coach ball. It really is tough, but if anyone thinks logically about it, playing football makes absolutely no sense with the way this virus works. It's crazy. Just HUDDLING and LINING UP puts kids and their families at risk (can't socially distance offensive huddles, linemen, or DBs in press coverage), let alone the spit and snot and breath and sweat that is exchanged between kids on every single play or in every single drill for two straight hours. Right now I am going to show up, coach the heck out of my kids because they can be a special group, and hope for the best. I just don't see how a season can happen if we are being realistic and responsible. |
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Post by **** on Jun 20, 2020 22:33:42 GMT -6
If we go back to school in person there will be a season. If we don’t go back there will be no season.
Two weeks ago I would’ve said no way we play this fall. But schools are already making the decision to quarantine the kid/household and move on business as usual. Imo it’s trending towards we are playing and going back to school.
Right or wrong
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Post by realdawg on Jun 21, 2020 5:37:55 GMT -6
I agree w/ rsmith for the most part. We have been able to start bringing our kids in this past week. Groups of 25. Social distancing, disinfect anything they touch. We basically did conditioning. They did body weight exercises/workout for a while, then did speed/agility/conditioning etc... I showed up, coached the heck out of the kids that were there. But I dont see us being able to play. No way. Not on time for sure. You think in a month an a half from now they are gonna say its ok for sweaty boys to lean on and hit each other? Maybe its different in other places, but I dont see it.
Some places will try.... Texas is hell bent for leather...they will try some other states may as well. I saw some clips from Alabama the other day, kids were practicing as normal, but wear a face covering under their helmet. So some are gonna try. But as mentioned I dont see it taking long before someone tests positive.
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Post by lochness on Jun 21, 2020 5:39:57 GMT -6
If we go back to school in person there will be a season. If we don’t go back there will be no season. Two weeks ago I would’ve said no way we play this fall. But schools are already making the decision to quarantine the kid/household and move on business as usual. Imo it’s trending towards we are playing and going back to school. Right or wrong I like the way you put this as "right or wrong," because maybe that raises the ultimate question: not "Will we go back?" but "SHOULD we go back?" Those are two very different questions to answer. I'm actually very interested to hear what coaches think about that question. |
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