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Post by jcamerot on Apr 14, 2020 10:20:56 GMT -6
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Post by carookie on Apr 14, 2020 11:20:31 GMT -6
I have been waiting for these to start, I guarantee there are many more (surprised we havent had this pop up here in California yet).
Bad form on the parents too. Regardless of your thoughts of these lockdowns, to violate the law simply to have your son participate in offseason spring football practice just goes to show where the priorities are for so many- and you see why so many encourage their kids to jump ship to go to the bigtime poaching HS.
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Post by jcamerot on Apr 14, 2020 13:45:07 GMT -6
# Gotta Grind---after all we are talking about 'HIGH SCHOOL' football !!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!! |
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 14, 2020 19:14:37 GMT -6
I have been waiting for these to start, I guarantee there are many more (surprised we havent had this pop up here in California yet). Bad form on the parents too. Regardless of your thoughts of these lockdowns, to violate the law simply to have your son participate in offseason spring football practice just goes to show where the priorities are for so many- and you see why so many encourage their kids to jump ship to go to the bigtime poaching HS. Bad form could be seen from varying angles |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 15, 2020 7:31:05 GMT -6
You're going to see more and more of this and not just in football.
At some point the scare fest isn't going to keep people from living their lives. And it shouldn't.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 15, 2020 7:50:26 GMT -6
I am not on the corona band wagon or a corona-bro out here whipping up mass hysteria but if your school is ordered shut down by the state why would you do something this stupid? In a time like this why would you put your kids eligibility at risk, your coaching job and probably your actual job at risk (when you're probably getting paid as a teacher when so many people are out of a job)? And of course there could maybe be health risks for all those involved.
I'm all for getting stuff re-started ASAP, but this dude is gonna get wacked for having a practice in April for a season that starts in August!! Not to sounds like an old grumpy man, but these young dudes do realize you can get ready for a season in a few weeks especially with HS kids right?
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 15, 2020 9:43:07 GMT -6
I am not on the corona band wagon or a corona-bro out here whipping up mass hysteria but if your school is ordered shut down by the state why would you do something this stupid? In a time like this why would you put your kids eligibility at risk, your coaching job and probably your actual job at risk (when you're probably getting paid as a teacher when so many people are out of a job)? And of course there could maybe be health risks for all those involved. I'm all for getting stuff re-started ASAP, but this dude is gonna get wacked for having a practice in April for a season that starts in August!! Not to sounds like an old grumpy man, but these young dudes do realize you can get ready for a season in a few weeks especially with HS kids right? And I think a double layer of BS will be that he will claim he was trying to do it "for the kids". Some type of "semblance of normalcy" foolishness when it was just because he just has bad judgement. |
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Post by planck on Apr 15, 2020 10:46:21 GMT -6
Maybe we should all just let public health professionals tell us when we can start gathering again, and until then we all STFU and do our part to keep everyone safe?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 10:57:34 GMT -6
Maybe we should all just let public health professionals tell us when we can start gathering again, and until then we all STFU and do our part to keep everyone safe? People are not going to stay home for 18 mo. Its been a mo.and people are losing their minds. And funds are running out. If it is safer to be above water than below, its logical we we will drown. And i am all for s.d and safety. But at some point we have to back to work. |
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 15, 2020 13:29:12 GMT -6
I've liked posts in this thread expressing both sides of the issue, because that's sort of how I feel now. What this coach did was undeniably stupid. However, at some point, things have to be opened back up. Someone said this on a talk show I was watching, but we can't wait for the day when it's confirmed that no one in America has Coronavirus...because that day will never come...
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 15, 2020 13:33:10 GMT -6
Maybe we should all just let public health professionals tell us when we can start gathering again, and until then we all STFU and do our part to keep everyone safe? People are not going to stay home for 18 mo. Its been a mo.and people are losing their minds. And funds are running out. If it is safer to be above water than below, its logical we we will drown. And i am all for s.d and safety. But at some point we have to back to work. I live right on Main St. in a town of approximately 10,000 people. Now, to be fair, Iowa has never declared "shelter in place." But our last teacher workday before this shut down was March 19th, a Thursday. I noticed traffic on Main St. noticeably down that weekend and the following Monday and Tuesday. Then, pretty much normal. I think the natives are definitely restless. |
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Post by planck on Apr 15, 2020 14:56:16 GMT -6
I've liked posts in this thread expressing both sides of the issue, because that's sort of how I feel now. What this coach did was undeniably stupid. However, at some point, things have to be opened back up. Someone said this on a talk show I was watching, but we can't wait for the day when it's confirmed that no one in America has Coronavirus...because that day will never come... Yeah, I'm not rooting for "stay home forever". I'm saying I prioiritize public health over economic conditions. I understand the arguments for the other side, and many of them are compelling. I look at it this way: we can choose to give food, shelter, and care to those in need. We cannot choose not to get an infectious disease. I've been working from home since February 28, and I'm going stir crazy. But it's better than the alternative. Also, that coach is a dumbass and going to get fired. Our AD and district have been all over us about this kind of thing, for good reason. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 15, 2020 14:58:17 GMT -6
[quote author=" planck" I've been working from home since February 28, and I'm going stir crazy. But it's better than the alternative.[/quote] Which is? |
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Post by planck on Apr 15, 2020 15:00:03 GMT -6
My wife works in a major University hospital and every day I'm terrified for her. To me, the alternative is putting a lot of people like her at risk.
So, better than the alternative.
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Post by fantom on Apr 15, 2020 18:28:14 GMT -6
My wife works in a major University hospital and every day I'm terrified for her. To me, the alternative is putting a lot of people like her at risk. So, better than the alternative. This has nothing to do with whether quarantining is a good idea. This has to do with breaking the law. |
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Post by planck on Apr 15, 2020 18:36:09 GMT -6
I was responding to coachpithy.
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Post by s73 on Apr 15, 2020 18:48:16 GMT -6
Said before and I will say again. I hate when people in the stands who are not in the know tell me what to do when they don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground, so I am not going to pretend to know what we should do.
I am sure that people who are studying this thing all day long for the last month are developing what they believe to be the best approach towards handling this thing given the information they have.
It's a lose / lose. Open too soon people die and everyone says we shoulda waited. Open too late the economy takes a dump and everyone says why didn't we open.
Hindsight is 20/20 & I hate being 2nd guessed so not gonna do it here.
With that said, I think what will happen is they will start a gradual opening, some people will die and it will basically be we cut our losses as much as we could on both sides of the argument.
As for this coach, just dumb. Can't be justified under the circumstances. My guess is he will act like he was just watching and really had nothing to do with organizing. Not sure that excuse will cut it at this point.
JMO.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 15, 2020 19:08:56 GMT -6
The 'law' for gubernatorial declarations is a slippery slope to say the least. That is political discussion that isn't allowed within the confines of this board.
The concept of 'shelter in place' isn't a political topic, but one that is outside of the realm of the coaching profession. I'm an ole coach and I know football, particularly defense and secondary play. However I do know people.
My best friend since I was in knee britches is a sharp dude and isn't one to jump on the latest theory wagon. He also married pretty well and his paw-in-law created one of the biggest genetic centers in the world. This Paw-in-law is one of a handful of guys that everyone goes to when it comes to the field of genetics. He isn't a virologist but kind of knows how stuff works in terms of generational cause and effect.
He told my buddy back before this first was a tickle in the news cycle that there wasn't anything that the government could do and that the only thing that would mitigate this viral contagion was for the population to build herd immunity.
Take this for what it is worth. Moderators feel free to delete this as needed.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 15, 2020 19:38:18 GMT -6
I've liked posts in this thread expressing both sides of the issue, because that's sort of how I feel now. What this coach did was undeniably stupid. However, at some point, things have to be opened back up. Someone said this on a talk show I was watching, but we can't wait for the day when it's confirmed that no one in America has Coronavirus...because that day will never come... Amen. I’m not on the shut down and hide for two years because .00005% of the population has died from something. At the same time I value my job and our schools are closed for the year. No way would I risk my job to have an April practice no matter my views on the whole shut down. |
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 16, 2020 3:46:05 GMT -6
I won't get into politics here but here is my take. If school is in session and COVID19 isn't even a thing. What this coach did was still against the rules. You can't meet in April with yor players and run plays on the field. He cheated and got caught.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 16, 2020 5:08:50 GMT -6
My wife works in a major University hospital and every day I'm terrified for her. To me, the alternative is putting a lot of people like her at risk. So, better than the alternative. This has nothing to do with whether quarantining is a good idea. This has to do with breaking the law. Yeah. Agreed. The discussion about the soundness of continuing the shutdown is completely moot in this case. It's simple. Schools are shut down and coaches can't have practices. This guy doesn't think that rule applied to him. Pretty cut and dry, IMO. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 16, 2020 7:47:57 GMT -6
This has nothing to do with whether quarantining is a good idea. This has to do with breaking the law. Yeah. Agreed. The discussion about the soundness of continuing the shutdown is completely moot in this case. It's simple. Schools are shut down and coaches can't have practices. This guy doesn't think that rule applied to him. Pretty cut and dry, IMO. True, but if it weren't for the rona, no one would have ever sniffed this story. He certainly wouldn't have gotten those warnings of fines and imprisonment he did. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 9:02:11 GMT -6
the law is the law. If they tell you to shut it down, shut it down. If you do something as silly as that coach did, you deserve what is coming to you. We cannot all hide out forever though, which my bigger point.
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Post by NC1974 on Apr 16, 2020 10:19:32 GMT -6
Grind season.
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Post by gian3074 on Apr 16, 2020 10:43:29 GMT -6
Can't install the Facemelter™ if you don't have practices in April (virus be damned). |
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Post by 19delta on Apr 16, 2020 11:18:45 GMT -6
Yeah. Agreed. The discussion about the soundness of continuing the shutdown is completely moot in this case. It's simple. Schools are shut down and coaches can't have practices. This guy doesn't think that rule applied to him. Pretty cut and dry, IMO. True, but if it weren't for the rona, no one would have ever sniffed this story. He certainly wouldn't have gotten those warnings of fines and imprisonment he did. If it weren't for the rona, the kids and coaches would have been in school at 12:30 in the afternoon. Again...debating the necessity of the shut-down is not what this is about. The point is that this coach was explicitly directed to NOT have contact with players. Not only did he disregard that direction, he did it on school property in April when OTAs are expressly prohibited by the state high school association. That is inexplicable. I can't fathom what this guy was thinking. I do agree with you that if there wasn't a shut-down, this would have been a minor story. |
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Post by 19delta on Apr 16, 2020 11:20:16 GMT -6
the law is the law. If they tell you to shut it down, shut it down. If you do something as silly as that coach did, you deserve what is coming to you. We cannot all hide out forever though, which my bigger point. Agreed. But it can't be up to some high school football coach to decide when it's safe to come back. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 11:45:48 GMT -6
the law is the law. If they tell you to shut it down, shut it down. If you do something as silly as that coach did, you deserve what is coming to you. We cannot all hide out forever though, which my bigger point. Agreed. But it can't be up to some high school football coach to decide when it's safe to come back. Completely agree. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 16, 2020 12:01:49 GMT -6
True, but if it weren't for the rona, no one would have ever sniffed this story. He certainly wouldn't have gotten those warnings of fines and imprisonment he did. If it weren't for the rona, the kids and coaches would have been in school at 12:30 in the afternoon. Again...debating the necessity of the shut-down is not what this is about. The point is that this coach was explicitly directed to NOT have contact with players. Not only did he disregard that direction, he did it on school property in April when OTAs are expressly prohibited by the state high school association. That is inexplicable. I can't fathom what this guy was thinking. I do agree with you that if there wasn't a shut-down, this would have been a minor story. I don't even think this would be a minor story. We both know probably tens of coaches who have held illegal practices and it's never even mentioned in the school let alone the news. |
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Post by bighit65 on Apr 16, 2020 12:33:12 GMT -6
What an idiot that coach is. Look no further than here in Michigan to see how spoiled all of us in America are by freedom. Oddly, the same could be said for this coach's actions. "No one is going to tell me where I can/can't go or what I can/can't do."
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