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Post by kylem56 on Apr 1, 2020 14:29:31 GMT -6
I saw today that California has closed their schools for the rest of the year and I know in the past few days that several other states had made the same announcement.
For those of you coaching in one of those states, has your state association made any announcement on when you can have contact with your student athletes for sports again?
I read today that MLB is aiming for opening day being the 4th of July which would be cool for many reasons. I know this may depend on where you live and how hard your region was hit by the virus, but I have heard of one state association eyeing activities after the 4th of July as long as there is no "shelter in place" order still taking place.
I don't want to get into a debate whether its right or wrong to return by then or what your opinion is on the feasibility of there being a 2020 season. I am just curious if any state associations have given any direction at this point after their state department of education has shut down in-person learning for the rest of the school year.
take care and stay safe
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 1, 2020 20:27:43 GMT -6
I saw today that California has closed their schools for the rest of the year and I know in the past few days that several other states had made the same announcement. For those of you coaching in one of those states, has your state association made any announcement on when you can have contact with your student athletes for sports again?
I read today that MLB is aiming for opening day being the 4th of July which would be cool for many reasons. I know this may depend on where you live and how hard your region was hit by the virus, but I have heard of one state association eyeing activities after the 4th of July as long as there is no "shelter in place" order still taking place. I don't want to get into a debate whether its right or wrong to return by then or what your opinion is on the feasibility of there being a 2020 season. I am just curious if any state associations have given any direction at this point after their state department of education has shut down in-person learning for the rest of the school year. take care and stay safe Technically CA hasnt shut down... but the governor and state superintendent have publicly recommended it... so it is just a matter of time before each district officially does it. Our district officially shut down for the rest of the year today... I knew it was coming for awhile. As of right now as I understand it, if there is no school then there are no sports/contact with the kids in person for workouts/practice. I have heard whispers of July 1st if we are lucky... but I think it makes sense to just make it after 4th of July weekend if that's the case. I am actually prepping for no practice til august, it will be old school 2 weeks of double days then you are playing a game. Buckle up. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 1, 2020 21:31:49 GMT -6
August is a long way off, and the nature of exponential is that they’re very hard to extrapolate very far, the error grows really fast even if the assumptions are correct. It’s impossible to realistically predict at this point.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 2, 2020 8:32:52 GMT -6
August is a long way off, and the nature of exponential is that they’re very hard to extrapolate very far, the error grows really fast even if the assumptions are correct. It’s impossible to realistically predict at this point. Everyone is trying to one up each other at this point "We were the first to...." "See how much we care!!" I get erring on the side of caution but why aren't decisions being made in like two week segments instead of things several months down the road. |
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Apr 2, 2020 9:03:24 GMT -6
August is a long way off, and the nature of exponential is that they’re very hard to extrapolate very far, the error grows really fast even if the assumptions are correct. It’s impossible to realistically predict at this point. Everyone is trying to one up each other at this point "We were the first to...." "See how much we care!!" I get erring on the side of caution but why aren't decisions being made in like two week segments instead of things several months down the road. I think NY is doing it this way (2-week chunks) and they are the MOST affected. IMO, I don't think it's a one-up on each other thing. I dunno about the rest of you but I'd rather know that most likely, things will be shut down for months at a time. This allows me to plan ahead, buckle down, and prepare whether that be financially, psychologically, etc. I also think that doing it in a 2 week chunk sends the wrong message to the average person, giving them false hope that things will go back to normal in 2 weeks when according to the experts, this thing is most likely to last months. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 2, 2020 18:10:01 GMT -6
Everyone is trying to one up each other at this point "We were the first to...." "See how much we care!!" I get erring on the side of caution but why aren't decisions being made in like two week segments instead of things several months down the road. I think NY is doing it this way (2-week chunks) and they are the MOST affected. IMO, I don't think it's a one-up on each other thing. I dunno about the rest of you but I'd rather know that most likely, things will be shut down for months at a time. This allows me to plan ahead, buckle down, and prepare whether that be financially, psychologically, etc. I also think that doing it in a 2 week chunk sends the wrong message to the average person, giving them false hope that things will go back to normal in 2 weeks when according to the experts, this thing is most likely to last months. I really don't want to turn this into a pissing match, but how is anyone an expert on this? This is an unprecedented event in modern history. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 2, 2020 19:52:13 GMT -6
I think NY is doing it this way (2-week chunks) and they are the MOST affected. IMO, I don't think it's a one-up on each other thing. I dunno about the rest of you but I'd rather know that most likely, things will be shut down for months at a time. This allows me to plan ahead, buckle down, and prepare whether that be financially, psychologically, etc. I also think that doing it in a 2 week chunk sends the wrong message to the average person, giving them false hope that things will go back to normal in 2 weeks when according to the experts, this thing is most likely to last months. I really don't want to turn this into a pissing match, but how is anyone an expert on this? This is an unprecedented event in modern history. It’s not really. Plagues happen, and epidemiologists study them. |
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Post by coachlit on Apr 2, 2020 21:07:46 GMT -6
Here in VA we have been kept in the dark. As of now the: school year is only online, spring sports have been cancelled, and we have a stay at home mandate until June 10th. I think the truth of the matter is the VA government and department of education don’t have a real timeline because no one knows when this is really going to be over.
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Post by agap on Apr 2, 2020 22:46:48 GMT -6
Everyone is trying to one up each other at this point "We were the first to...." "See how much we care!!" I get erring on the side of caution but why aren't decisions being made in like two week segments instead of things several months down the road. I think NY is doing it this way (2-week chunks) and they are the MOST affected. IMO, I don't think it's a one-up on each other thing. I dunno about the rest of you but I'd rather know that most likely, things will be shut down for months at a time. This allows me to plan ahead, buckle down, and prepare whether that be financially, psychologically, etc. I also think that doing it in a 2 week chunk sends the wrong message to the average person, giving them false hope that things will go back to normal in 2 weeks when according to the experts, this thing is most likely to last months. Shutting things down for months at a time can also send the wrong message to the average person. |
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Post by justafbcoach on Apr 3, 2020 6:21:05 GMT -6
I saw today that California has closed their schools for the rest of the year and I know in the past few days that several other states had made the same announcement. For those of you coaching in one of those states, has your state association made any announcement on when you can have contact with your student athletes for sports again?
I live in Central Florida. For us, we are under a stay-at-home order (Statewide) until the end of April. The FHSAA is taking cues from the President. They are trying to leave the door open for Spring sports (all - including football) to be extended until June 30th with what I imagine will be shortened seasons. However, I think that's disingenuous and giving kids false hope. I think they should call it for what it is and start prepping for sports in July or August. I feel awful for the kids in those sports, but there isn't much the State can do to combat this pandemic. |
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Post by 53 on Apr 3, 2020 7:57:54 GMT -6
Rutgers Just canceled all on campus activities through August.
Not a good sign for college football.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 8:28:28 GMT -6
I think NY is doing it this way (2-week chunks) and they are the MOST affected. IMO, I don't think it's a one-up on each other thing. I dunno about the rest of you but I'd rather know that most likely, things will be shut down for months at a time. This allows me to plan ahead, buckle down, and prepare whether that be financially, psychologically, etc. I also think that doing it in a 2 week chunk sends the wrong message to the average person, giving them false hope that things will go back to normal in 2 weeks when according to the experts, this thing is most likely to last months. Shutting things down for months at a time can also send the wrong message to the average person. What wrong message might it send? |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 3, 2020 9:37:48 GMT -6
Shutting things down for months at a time can also send the wrong message to the average person. What wrong message might it send? That things will go back to normal in 2 weeks, because they won’t. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 9:44:22 GMT -6
What wrong message might it send? That things will go back to normal in 2 weeks, because they won’t. You must be viewing through a mobile device. My question regarding "wrong messages" was directed at shutting something down for a month at a time |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 3, 2020 9:58:33 GMT -6
That things will go back to normal in 2 weeks, because they won’t. You must be viewing through a mobile device. My question regarding "wrong messages" was directed at shutting something down for a month at a time Yeah, mobile device. Couldn’t see that! |
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Post by blb on Apr 3, 2020 11:19:43 GMT -6
Rutgers Just canceled all on campus activities through August. Not a good sign for college football.
They have not yet ruled out opening campus for fall sports practices including football.
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Post by agap on Apr 3, 2020 11:27:51 GMT -6
Shutting things down for months at a time can also send the wrong message to the average person. What wrong message might it send? Some cities have announced that certain places will be shutdown for the next five months. How would that not send the wrong message to some people? Not everyone is a teacher who is guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 3, 2020 11:32:46 GMT -6
Rutgers Just canceled all on campus activities through August. Not a good sign for college football. Because obviously football can't survive without Rutgers. 😉 |
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Post by carookie on Apr 3, 2020 12:03:35 GMT -6
What wrong message might it send? Some cities have announced that certain places will be shutdown for the next five months. How would that not send the wrong message to some people? Not everyone is a teacher who is guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. Shoot, not every teacher is at a public schools. If this thing goes on much longer it will demolish most private schools. I know that most people just focus on the tip of the iceberg when it comes to private schools and assume they are all a bunch of Mater Deis and De La Salles, but truth is many are just getting by. I know my school has already reduced salaries and let people go. And though there may be some government assistance available, it requires some hoops to be jumped through that may go against the school's beliefs. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 12:34:14 GMT -6
What wrong message might it send? Some cities have announced that certain places will be shutdown for the next five months. How would that not send the wrong message to some people? Not everyone is a teacher who is guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. 1) Teachers are not guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. I hope you don't think they are. Just look at pensions. 2) How is that "the wrong" message. It may be a terribly unpleasant one, but why do you consider it "wrong" Unless you are talking about potential riots, and believe it is better to mislead to quell any potential unrest. But other than that, if the data on transmission, duration and medical infrastructure is showing that it is advisable to be at home for the next 6 weeks, why not say that upfront instead of a series of 2 week "Nope, not yet" situations. 3) Which cities by the way? I have not seen anyone enact a 5 month stay at home decree or curfew |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 12:38:06 GMT -6
Rutgers Just canceled all on campus activities through August. Not a good sign for college football. Because obviously football can't survive without Rutgers. 😉 Rutgers is in the Big 10. I am fairly certain we are talking about REAL football here Larry Moe, not pretend Big 10 football  |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 12:40:17 GMT -6
Some cities have announced that certain places will be shutdown for the next five months. How would that not send the wrong message to some people? Not everyone is a teacher who is guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. Shoot, not every teacher is at a public schools. If this thing goes on much longer it will demolish most private schools. I know that most people just focus on the tip of the iceberg when it comes to private schools and assume they are all a bunch of Mater Deis and De La Salles, but truth is many are just getting by. I know my school has already reduced salaries and let people go. And though there may be some government assistance available, it requires some hoops to be jumped through that may go against the school's beliefs. Side note-- Just because Mater Dei and De La Salle have dominant football programs does not in anyway mean they are on solid financial footing. Evangel Christian as a school is holding itself together with metaphorical bubble gum and duct tape with regards to keeping its doors open. Back to our regularly scheduled hand wringing. |
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Post by veerandshoot on Apr 3, 2020 12:46:36 GMT -6
the state of Indiana has shutdown until May 31st. I kind of feel most of the summer will be up in the air at best. Camps, scrimmages and 7 on 7's will be few if any. Best target date is to start in August. Key will be conditioning and keeping things simple. A lot of how things will go for each community will be determined as to how much loss it experiences. Our new normal.......is NOT to normal!
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Post by agap on Apr 3, 2020 12:48:58 GMT -6
Some cities have announced that certain places will be shutdown for the next five months. How would that not send the wrong message to some people? Not everyone is a teacher who is guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. 1) Teachers are not guaranteed a salary regardless of what happens. I hope you don't think they are. Just look at pensions. 2) How is that "the wrong" message. It may be a terribly unpleasant one, but why do you consider it "wrong" Unless you are talking about potential riots, and believe it is better to mislead to quell any potential unrest. But other than that, if the data on transmission, duration and medical infrastructure is showing that it is advisable to be at home for the next 6 weeks, why not say that upfront instead of a series of 2 week "Nope, not yet" situations. 3) Which cities by the way? I have not seen anyone enact a 5 month stay at home decree or curfew I'm not saying whether or not I think it's wrong. My point is that will send the wrong message to some people, just like it will the other way too for some people. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 3, 2020 12:52:57 GMT -6
Because obviously football can't survive without Rutgers. 😉 Rutgers is in the Big 10. I am fairly certain we are talking about REAL football here Larry Moe, not pretend Big 10 football I was being sarcastic, but Rutgers is terrible. They weren't put into the Big 10 for their football ability. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 12:55:06 GMT -6
Rutgers is in the Big 10. I am fairly certain we are talking about REAL football here Larry Moe, not pretend Big 10 football I was being sarcastic, but Rutgers is terrible. They weren't put into the Big 10 for their football ability. So you agree.. Big 10 football is fake as well |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 3, 2020 13:45:05 GMT -6
I was being sarcastic, but Rutgers is terrible. They weren't put into the Big 10 for their football ability. So you agree.. Big 10 football is fake as well Big 10 football fake? No. Michigan football? They've been fake for years. Kidding. Back to task and the OP, my understanding is that in Michigan we are supposed to be treating this as a dead period. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 3, 2020 13:51:48 GMT -6
To answer the original question, Louisiana made an announcement today that essentially said No News but they are open to finishing the spring season if schools open back up. Currently schools closed until May 1st (extended from original closure date of April 13)
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 3, 2020 13:59:34 GMT -6
We (Michigan) shut down for the school year yesterday. As a private school, we are 1:1 iPad and have been doing virtual learning since March 23. I work with students with special needs (Down Syndrome, Autism, TBI) so this has been a real struggle and feel for those kids and other kids who have disadvantages. The MHSAA also cancelled winter and spring sports today.
Selfishly, I hope by August we can do football again. I am not ignorant of the severity of this and the toll it is taking on people on multiple levels.
I live in Ohio right near the state line and schools are closed until May 1 here. Outside of a few businesses closed, when you go out to get food, you would never know there is a stay-at-home order in place.
For those of you struggling with this, if your a podcast guy, listen to Jon Gordon's Positive University episode from Sunday, March 29 with Gordon and Erwin McManus titled " Pandemic, Fear and Faith". Take care coaches
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