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Post by wingt74 on Nov 2, 2007 9:15:05 GMT -6
You have 5 kids. Say Freshman football so this can pertain to HS coachs and youth coaches as best as possible. These 5 kids are athletic enough to play any position. You know these kids, 6' 205 to 225, fast, strong, hard hitters, excellent blockers/tacklers, can throw, run, and kick a football. Any position these 5 play, they will do it well. Both ways of course. So where do they play on O and on D? Do they play special teams? Basically, where do you want your studs playing? I have my ideas, but want to hear other coaches. The rest of your team is below average by the way  |
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Post by brophy on Nov 2, 2007 9:22:11 GMT -6
a lot would depend on your system, but if the kids are as good as you say they are........they are playing Varsity.
Defense - anywhere where they know their assignment, but probably not FS or MLB or WS/Rover (difficult spot to master without experience). More likely, with less experienced kids playing varsity....going to DE and/or SS.
Offense - Y, F, A, Z, or X.........so long as they konw their assignment (QB has to be MORE than a thrower, so if a freshman is a better leader than any of the upper classmen, then I'd consider it). Primarily, I am assuming they don't have all the football intellect, so I'm thinking moreso the Z or A position to get them in and give defenses fits.
Special Teams - the best 11 are going out there....if these kids fit the bill, they play.
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Post by knighter on Nov 2, 2007 9:24:36 GMT -6
Offense----offensive line
Defense---2 DE's, 1 SS, 2 LB
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 2, 2007 9:28:21 GMT -6
two guards, fullback, two wings - double wing offense (possibly at te instead of guard depending on what else I had to work with)
mike, will, fred, two des in the 46 Gambler (possibly at sam and nose depending on what else I had to work with)
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Post by wildcat on Nov 2, 2007 9:43:18 GMT -6
Offense
QB, TB, Slot, Slot, WR
Defense
FS, DE, OLB, OLB, MLB
Special Teams
Yep. These kids probably don't get off the field.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Nov 2, 2007 9:47:50 GMT -6
Offense
QB TB FB WR WR G
Defense
2 DE 2 MLB 1 FS
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 2, 2007 9:54:12 GMT -6
Offense:
QB, TB, FB, FL/SE, TE
QB-Ball in his hands every play
TB-One of best athletes running downhill
FB-Leading one of best athletes, in our system he is a ball carrier as well, and a reciever
FL/SE-Must have someone who's a deep threat
TE-Creates matchup problems for the defense
Defense:
2DEs-Shut down C gap and contain if they are good enough
1LB-1 stud in the middle
2DBs-We just got beat b/c we did not have good enough athletes in the secondary so I'll play 2 shutdown kids here.
Special Teams: All Coverage units
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Post by thunder17 on Nov 2, 2007 10:00:58 GMT -6
I'm with wildcat except maybe two DE's instead of the Mike.
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Post by wingt74 on Nov 2, 2007 10:02:41 GMT -6
See, I was always in the camp of best players at skill positions...but I'm starting to lean a little more to what Knighter believes in.
QB, HB, G, G, C.
Defense - We're all pretty much in agreement on DEs.
DE, DE, OLB, OLB, DT
My OLBs play on the LOS and finesse (splash) any outside run to the sideline.
Speed kills right? I don't want to get beat to the outside. If a team can throw, I'll drop my OLBs into safety positions.
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Post by joelee on Nov 2, 2007 10:14:21 GMT -6
Defense= fs,ss,rolb,lolb,re
Offense= Qb,rb, se,fl,te
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Post by CVBears on Nov 2, 2007 10:15:43 GMT -6
Our top five athletes currently play at QB, RB, Slot, U and Y on offense (Spread/Pistol). C, C, FS and Will on defense (Bear). Our QB doesn't play defense.
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Post by carookie on Nov 2, 2007 10:55:53 GMT -6
Defense- number one for me is WDE, in our system he is huge. Maybe not the best overall athlete, but needs to be a damn good one, and always have his motor running. I'll hope to have 2 great safeties (run support and pass). Then 2LB's.
Offense- For us its our 3, not a traditional Fullback 3, more of a slot/wing/whatever we need him to be; from there on its probably mix and match with the skill players....although I'd like the QB to be up there.
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Post by coachvann on Nov 2, 2007 11:02:41 GMT -6
4-2-5...2 Outside Safeties, 2 Outside Linebackers, Field side cornerback
Offense-The pound for pound best athlete-Quarterback (SS on D),
Most physical speed athlete-TE (match up problems) (Will on D),
The strongest at FB (Sam on D)
The quickest at TB (WS or FC on D)
The fastest at WR (WS or FC on D)
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Post by khalfie on Nov 2, 2007 21:18:08 GMT -6
Fun question...
I'm a recently converted SW...
So I'm going
A (HB) Back - Best runner
B (Spinner) Back - Toughest Kid
C (Wing)Back - Fastest kid
D (Blocking) Back - Tough Kid but not as stellar a runner
Wing Side TE - Best Hands of the group.
Defensively...
As a 33 guy...
I want to be strong up the middle, but my Mike is married to the FB, and I'd hate to waste speed on the Dive back... so...
FS, Sam (ILB), WIll(ILB), Lion (OLB/DE), Ram (OLB/DE)
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 2, 2007 21:58:37 GMT -6
I am an ex-lineman who was a pretty good athlete so I know the value of being an athlete in the trenches. That is why I compromised here and stuck one of those kids at TE.
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Post by k on Nov 3, 2007 5:52:05 GMT -6
My two way players in order:
TB/FS
SE/DE
RG/Mike
RT/DT
TE/DE
LT/DT
FB/Sam
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Post by lionhart on Nov 3, 2007 9:07:12 GMT -6
im an OC... so i only think on that side of the ball  . best athlete of them all goes to QB (he will be a runner in our spread) the strongest one will go to center (need to get my best OL there to be the pillar of my line) the next 3 will be RB, Z and Y....... gottat get guys on the field that can score on any play |
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 3, 2007 21:11:49 GMT -6
I have to say this is one of those questions that can't be answered due to lack of information. You need to see the whole picture before you can do player personnel
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Post by tog on Nov 3, 2007 21:16:55 GMT -6
You have 5 kids. Say Freshman football so this can pertain to HS coachs and youth coaches as best as possible. These 5 kids are athletic enough to play any position. You know these kids, 6' 205 to 225, fast, strong, hard hitters, excellent blockers/tacklers, can throw, run, and kick a football. Any position these 5 play, they will do it well. Both ways of course. So where do they play on O and on D? Do they play special teams? Basically, where do you want your studs playing? I have my ideas, but want to hear other coaches. The rest of your team is below average by the way on offense 1. qb 2. b back 3. lt 4. rt 5. c---h back type on defense -4-2-5 style 1. fs 2. rover 3. bandit 4. sam 5. will that is where i would put em |
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 4, 2007 9:02:11 GMT -6
play your best players in the middle of the field...
i.e. QB, FS, RB, ILB, Inside WR ...
They will be in better position to get more touches (involved in more plays) and affect the scheme greater because of their ability to attack multiple areas of the field on any given snap.
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 4, 2007 11:17:56 GMT -6
I go with on offense, QB, RB, WR, WR and Center
On Defense 5-2 Cover 4 NG, 2 ILB, and Both safeties.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 4, 2007 13:49:17 GMT -6
On offense Fly X 2 RBs and unless we have a great pure passer at QB
on Defense
both corners both safeties middle LB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 6:22:53 GMT -6
For a 4-4 D and I Formation (Iso, Power, Counter GT, trap, sweep), I would with these five:
Just for discussion, I'm assuming one of these five is a lineman type, so center or LT depending on what else I have. DE on defense.
The best athlete plays QB--add midline and ISV to my list above plus a true run-pass option on bootleg and sprintout. I highly doubt I would play him on D, but FS if I had to.
The second best is TB and CB.
The next best is FB/MLB if he's the hard nosed kid.
The fifth kid becomes a WR or TE depending on how well he blocks.
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Post by revtaz on Nov 5, 2007 6:58:25 GMT -6
Take the best leader and put him at QB. If you want him to play defense put him at ILB or Safety. If he is the best leader, athlete and competitor you will win a lot of games.
Take the next kid and say "Son, you are going to touch the ball every play and nothing on our team go's without you" and make him a Center. Place him along the DL, Either Nose or Weak DE.
Take the next kid and put him at TB and Safety/LB.
Those first three kids are the ones you place all the faith in the world in. I believe you build from the middle. Defensively and offensively.
The next two depending on their athleticism can be TE/G and Whatever puts them in the best position to make plays on Defense.
Taz
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Nov 5, 2007 7:10:27 GMT -6
Offense:
Center
Tackle
QB
TB
Slot
Defense - 4-2
DT
DE
ILB
2- OLB/Rov
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